DVD authoring from vobs

[killmore]

Is TEMPGenc the only software capable of opening VOBS in order to create new DVD from them?
All other software seems to want MPeg files!

[Bob W]

NeoDVD Plus will work with VOB files. I use it all the time because it's "user friendly".
http://www.mediostream.com/products/neodvdplus/index.html

[bugster]

DVD-lab will also allow you to author from VOB files. Make sure you get the latest version and use the 'join vob files' option when you import if you don't want it to de-multiplex and re-multiplex your VOBS.

[LordVader]

With SmartRipper or any other Ripping program:

Rip the Title you want with the setting (MAX-FILESIZE). Don't let the program to split every vob file.

by doing this, you'll get basically the entire title in M2V inside, wich you can extract using the "de-multiplex" option in Tmpgenc.

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If you're trying to save time, check out the other previous methods. I use this technique for various purposes.

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The entire movie is more easy to handle, when planning to recompress.

[killmore]

Will any of those vob readers keep subtitles?

[jdizzy40]

New Power Director Pro 2.55 now supports VOB files. Tryed it last night sweet and simple.

[Rogue3]

I use VOBrator to break the vob files into .m2v and .ace streams (or whatever audio it is) and then you can use most authoring programs after that.

[killmore]

DVD-lab will also allow you to author from VOB files. Make sure you get the latest version and use the 'join vob files' option when you import if you don't want it to de-multiplex and re-multiplex your VOBS.

I tried it - It looses chapters and all subtitles became wide and red (and hard to read)
Also I was not able to create simple menu with picture from the episode and title underneath. (each episode was in separate vob)

[bugster]

Hmmm, never tried it with subtitles so I can't comment on that.

If you want to keep subtitles I think you will have to extract them somehow (not something I need to do so can't help there) and then seperate (de-multiplex) the audio and video into sperate streams and author the three items as seperate assets. As I said, I don't need or use subtitles so I can't really help any further, sorry.

[killmore]

NeoDVD Plus will work with VOB files. I use it all the time because it's "user friendly".
http://www.mediostream.com/products/neodvdplus/index.html

Neo DVD insists on re-encoding files - this would loose subtitles
Is there a way to stop it from reincoding?

[killmore]

Hmmm, never tried it with subtitles so I can't comment on that.

If you want to keep subtitles I think you will have to extract them somehow (not something I need to do so can't help there) and then seperate (de-multiplex) the audio and video into sperate streams and author the three items as seperate assets. As I said, I don't need or use subtitles so I can't really help any further, sorry.

Thanks anyway.
I have the vobs - all I want is a menu for them - no more no less.
Maybe this is the question I need to ask

[killmore]

New Power Director Pro 2.55 now supports VOB files. Tryed it last night sweet and simple.

Does it preserve existing vobs or does it re-encode everything? I would like it to preserve existing vobs!

[jdizzy40]

Depends on how you choose to output it. Its supports many different formats, but from what I can tell it does not give you a VIDEO_TS type structure. It does however allow you to use VOB files as a source material. Hope that answers your question.

[k_man77nz]

Are those VOBs all the same standard?
ie. 720x480 NTSC

If were and you didn't 'need' a menu then you could just use IFOedit to create the iIFOs.

[lacywest]

Lets continue this thread some more.

I do use Power Director 2.55 and Power Producer v1.0 but only for normal stuff like Video Capture stuff. I am looking forward to getting PowerProducer v2.0. Both are very good programs ... PowerProducer is very nice ... I like it for capturing. Nice capture at 5kb Mpg-2. I have a section of one of my Six HDs ... NTFS partitioned. It was a movie from Hotnet ... he he he. Hey ... What can I say ... I like sex.

DVD Lab will allow at least 2 audio tracks. I tried using it last night ... the more recent versions v1.15 and beyond ... will allow joining vobs and keeping more than one audio track. But I haven't been successfull yet. The joining function didn't seem to be working correctly ... final size didn't match the sum of the 4 vob file. The movie is 007 DIE ANOTHER DAY.

Features I'm interested in is sub-title support and keeping an second language ... Espanol. Why ??? Because I live in California and Mexico is next door. I've got a friend who is Mexican-American and his wife is from Mexico ... she needs the Spanish audio track to follow the movie.

An idea I have is ... remove English sub-titles and leave Spanish sub-titles.

DVDLAB has an IFO Editor in it. If DVD LAB would have joined the vobs correctly ... I'd have more info. Current version is 1.21 beta.

I did join the vobs with version 1.15 correctly ... All this has been done in last 72 hours ... so I need to mess with it more.

Sincerely ... Mach10 aka Lacywest

[Riccardom]

I managed to get a menu with double audio tracks and double subtitles, with a little trick.
First I make the simple DVD with DVDShrink, reauthoring only the stream I'm interested in. This produces a plain VIDEO_TS.IFO files with no menu and the VTS_xx_y.IFO and .VOB.
Then with TMPGEnc DVD Author I prepare in another directory another set of IFO and VOB.
Doing this you must keep only the track level menu (you need the latest version to do this). In this way VTS_xx_0.VOB are not produced.
To avoid wasting of space and time you can use only few seconds of the main movies, with chapter cut function, just enough to make thumbnail images, motion or not.
After the generation of files you should have another directory with a VIDEO_TS.IFO, a VIDEO_TS.VOB that contains the menu and the set of VTS_xx_y.IFO and .VOB.
Now you copy the VIDEO_TS.* files from TDA directory to the one where the real main movies resides.
The result is a DVD structure with a menu to choose among movies, then in the movies you can choose audio tracks or subtitles using the remote control.
It works in PowerDVD but I haven't burned yet to test on standalone.
Let me know if it works for someone.

Hope it helps
Riccardom

[Riccardom]

I burned on a -RW and it works in standalone.
The only thing is that at the end of last track it stops the disc instead of going back to main menu but can be acceptable for me.

Riccardom

[lacywest]

Well I installed DVDLab 1.15

Die Another Day is the movie Full Screen $20 at Wal-Mart.

I didn't rip the DTS audio. Kept the 6-CH AC3 English and 2-CH AC3 Spanish.

I made a wav file of Madonna Music Video

The menu plays the music from Madonna Video.

I joined the vobs and got the correct size.

What happened ??

No spanish audio ... when I choose it ... with PowerDVD ... no audio at all.

Sub titles ... English only.

What happened I think is ... Only one VTS Title. Because of the maddona track in English ... 2 CH AC3 ... I have to make a choice.

I believe if I do completely away with the 6-CH AC3 audio and only include 2 CH AC3 ... I will keep my cake and eat it too.

But if my Mexican-American friend decides to take advantage of his Dolby Digital system he will wonder why it doesn't sound as good as my system.

Well to hear the Spanish Audio ... he has to settle for 2-CH AC3

Until DVDLAb provides the ability to create another Title Set for purposes of allowing two distinct discrete audio channels ... we will have to settle for 2-CH AC3 or 6-CH AC3 ....

I have the Pioneer VSX D912 Receiver and it sings ... supports Dolby Digital 6.1 and yes I do have a Back Surround Speaker located behind me in ... the sweet spot. I do use the Auto-Calibration microphone feature.

Enuff said ... Mach10 ... aka Lacywest

[spidey]

VobEdit is another very good demultiplexing / seprating tool to get your streams extracted

[Specialist]

Is TEMPGenc the only software capable of opening VOBS in order to create new DVD from them?
All other software seems to want MPeg files!

Ulead DVD MovieFactory 2 has an IMPORT DVD command that will import the video as MPEG files.

The free trial download is here:

http://www.ulead.com/dmf/trial.htm

Jerry Jones
http://www.jonesgroup.net

[killmore]

The result is a DVD structure with a menu to choose among movies, then in the movies you can choose audio tracks or subtitles using the remote control.
Riccardom

Very interesting - I will try that!

[killmore]

VobEdit is another very good demultiplexing / seprating tool to get your streams extracted

Right!
But I can't figure out how to add subtitles or just change their color (from flaky pink that DVD-Lab created)

[killmore]

Doing this you must keep only the track level menu (you need the latest version to do this). In this way VTS_xx_0.VOB are not produced.
To avoid wasting of space and time you can use only few seconds of the main movies, with chapter cut function, just enough to make thumbnail images, motion or not.
Riccardom

What version you are using?
How do I eliminate chapter level menu?
I copied VIDEO_TS.* and I got a menu but it did not work. I bet thats because of chapter menu that still lingered on.

[Riccardom]

Version TDA-101036 lets you decide if prepare only track menu, only chapter menu, both or take automatic decision.
I think the new 1.5 does the same.
Riccardom

[dcsos]

IFO edit really does this well as
1. it detects and enables all the subtitle and audio streams in the original VOBS
2. It generats a VTS_01.IFO
3. Then you make a VIDEO_TS.ifo in the next operation

This dvd has no menu but the movie will start automatically and the remote can acess all audio and subpicture in the original dvd movie

I know you can make menus and fix em in here but I'm no Ifo edit wizard yet

[lacywest]

dcsos ...

Do you by any chance know how to ....

take the DVD movie ... 007 Die Another Day [$20 bucks at Wal-Mart] ... and combine the movie from disk 1 and the Madonna Video from disk 2 ... and keep the Spanish audio track.

It is a hassle to juggle the two disks around ... so why not have the Maddona video and the movie on one DVD-R or +R ... doesn't matter.

My Sony DVD burner burns either.

Would really be cool to keep the AC3 6-CH too.

Sub-Titles would be handy to .... English and Spanish.

My friend's wife is from Mexico. I live only a few hours from Mexico.

I've been trying all kinds of different things.

[lacywest]

IFO edit really does this well as
1. it detects and enables all the subtitle and audio streams in the original VOBS
2. It generats a VTS_01.IFO
3. Then you make a VIDEO_TS.ifo in the next operation

This dvd has no menu but the movie will start automatically and the remote can acess all audio and subpicture in the original dvd movie

I know you can make menus and fix em in here but I'm no Ifo edit wizard yet

Mach10-LacyWest has question ...

what is this #3. you mention about "next operation".

Will this help me combine vob files from Disk 1 and Disk 2 ???

[Megahurts]

Riccardom

Your trick of making 2 movies on 1 DVDR with menus works great.

To solve the end of movie and back to menu problem, I used IFOEdit to edit the movie VTS_IFO files.

Open VTS_01_0.IFO and select VTS_PGCITI/VTS_PGC_1.

Scroll down to the line that says "There is no PGC Command Table" and right click then choose Add Post Command.

Right click on the Post Command and choose (CallSS_VMGM), Menu = Title-Menu, Resume Cell = 0. Save the file.

Open the VTS_02_0.IFO file and make the same changes and save.

If you want the Play All Button to work, you'll have to check out the VTS_IFO files that TDA made and add the extra Post Commands to the final VTS_IFOs. Must be done with hex values.

If you want to be able to jump to a specific chapter, you'll have to open the VIDEO_TS.IFO file, Click VMG_PTT_SRPT. Enter the number of chapters for each title set and save. Click Get VTS Sectors.

Hope this helps you and others.

Chas

[killmore]

The trick od copying with DVD-Shrink then using TMPGEnc DVD Author to generate Menus worked!
(Version DVD Author 1.5xxx was used)
I only created Top level menu (no chapter menu) and copied created Video_TS* over the DVD-Shrink ones - It works great!

[dcsos]

what is this #3. you mention about "next operation".

after using the drop down on the TOOLS menu says ..create new IFO's
(the TOOLS is where FILE would be in all other programs)

then use operation #3 as i referred to it
this is the drop down DVD AUTHOR FUNCTION..
once you've created the IFO's in the previous step, this makes a VIDEO_TS.IFO joining all the VIDEO_TS's in the folder you've shown it

now submit this file to POWER DVD and it will simulate a burn of the folder