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  1. Member zoobie's Avatar
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    Anyone else using this free editor?
    Although it only gets a 5.5/10 rating here, I'm just starting to get into it.
    I read where it supposedly is the worlds best codec...now available for free in Avid freeDV
    I've just gone thru the tutorials and goofed with it
    Any more tips out there?
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    Well, from what I've read on the full installation of Avid, it seems to want it's own dedicated box. However, I've been using this free version on a multi-purpose machine without any problems. I wonder if the low rating was due to the initial complexity. This is where the tutorials are highly recommended.

    Comments on the codec?
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    I tried it early but had severe crash issues on two separate machines. It was good enough to cut some DV and learn the interface but wasn't stable enough for real work.

    I'll try it again when I get time. Never got it to encode so can't comment on the codec yet.

    A real AVID install is best done on a dedicated machine. Unlike Vegas and Premiere, it doesn't play as well with others.

    As far as I recall with AVID Xpress DV, the AVID DV codec could not be used with mattes or alpha unless everything was fully decompressed first to a Tiff sequence, but this may have been fixed long ago.

    The version of Xpress DV that I installed used thrid party MPeg codecs, I think Sonic.
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    the avid dv codec used to be pretty bad - but they have fixed it up somewhat ... not as good as say sonys though ...

    the free avid program -- i never could get it to run proper and it was VERY limited as to input and output
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  5. All avid products are limited on output unless you use one of their 3rd party apps.

    Avid FreeDV is just to get you used to the Avid interface and that's about it really. You can't take packages from the free version to the nonfree versions (they do that to keep it out of real production settings)

    We use:
    Avid Adrenaline
    Avid Newscutter
    Avid Express

    I just got back from a week of Avid training over their enterprise systems
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    I use the FixEverythingThat'sWrongWithThisVideo() filter. Works perfectly every time.
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    If Avid free DV would just work for DV in and DV or uncompressed out, it would be nice for cutting a home movie.

    When I tried to do that in the past, I ran into stability issues.
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    Free yes , user ability = holly crapola .

    I would recommend it for a dedicated pc only ... it can suck the life out of a pc ... and there are other product's that perform better that cause less drain on a pc , granted you might require four other program's to do the same thing , but this program literally suck's the life out of your pc ... no joking .

    The product also overstep's the boundaries as to what a company may request from a user ... ie , name , email address , phone number , address .

    This information has been protected under australian law ... something they should take into account ... it will soon be a finable offence ... being from another country will nolonger provide a safe haven for such companies in the future .

    As for guide's , grab those from the site ... do a search as well ... if the future is any brighter , I might see my way to some guide's ... much later ... other's to finish yet for other product's .
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  8. I have to admit, Avid does have some pretty STEEEEP specs for a PC. But then again Avid is the commecial side of the biz, where as Pinnacle is the consumer side of the biz. If you want to run a true Commercial product on your PC, you better be willing to give up some of the Consumer junk......Namely, don't run ANY virus protection.....Also you need to read Avid's XP optomization recommendations.
    tgpo famous MAC commercial, You be the judge?
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    I use the FixEverythingThat'sWrongWithThisVideo() filter. Works perfectly every time.
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    Pinnacle USED to be ONLY pro stuff -- at one time anyway .....
    "Each problem that I solved became a rule which served afterwards to solve other problems." - Rene Descartes (1596-1650)
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    Originally Posted by stiltman
    I have to admit, Avid does have some pretty STEEEEP specs for a PC. But then again Avid is the commecial side of the biz, where as Pinnacle is the consumer side of the biz. If you want to run a true Commercial product on your PC, you better be willing to give up some of the Consumer junk......Namely, don't run ANY virus protection.....Also you need to read Avid's XP optomization recommendations.
    For anyone wanting to experience the "good old days" of late 90's Premiere and similar products, ... the inadequate MAC/PC resources, the repeated lockups ... then AVID Free DV is for you. It's a bit of history and just goes to show how inefficient AVID software is vs. Vegas and others. Premiere has again turned up the heat with v2.0. Save up for adequate hardware.
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    talk about stability -- remember the Pinnacle ReelTime Nitro cards ?

    what touchy things they were -- for that mater, any of the targa cards .. sure they worked great on a dedicated specially built system.. but even installing word or some other program would often muff them up .... the nitro cards had a real bad rep ...

    Pinnacle Liquid purple, Pinnacle Liquid silver <-- who used those systems ? not many it seems ...

    the Leitch Video DPS Video cards were real good though (still are)
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    I remember getting a Truevision Bravo working sorta.
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    Well, I spent 20 minutes with Avid FreeDV
    Sounds like crap from what you say
    I just found a version of Vegas I'll mess with in the meantime
    In some instances, it's reported to beat Avid
    Believe it or not...
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    a lot of people will agree with that
    "Each problem that I solved became a rule which served afterwards to solve other problems." - Rene Descartes (1596-1650)
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  15. However, I'll bet you what 70% of production houses and Broadcast uses now.....


    I saw the list of all the movies edited with Avid....couldn't believe it


    BTW, I have Avid free running fine on my syetem.....God and the BSA only knows whats been installed on this thing
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    I use the FixEverythingThat'sWrongWithThisVideo() filter. Works perfectly every time.
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    Originally Posted by stiltman
    However, I'll bet you what 70% of production houses and Broadcast uses now.....


    I saw the list of all the movies edited with Avid....couldn't believe it


    BTW, I have Avid free running fine on my syetem.....God and the BSA only knows whats been installed on this thing
    S-man- is it still running fine? could you come to this other thread & post about your machine setup?
    I need some help with setting up the (kinda undocumented) output options.
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    Originally Posted by stiltman
    I saw the list of all the movies edited with Avid....couldn't believe it
    Could you give me a link? Thanks.
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    I believe when they run around saying "This movie was edited with FCP" or whatever, they just mean the video-assist. This gives the actual cutter some idea of how the film's editor wants it cut and spliced together with a graphical representation. Film is much nicer.
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    Originally Posted by stiltman
    However, I'll bet you what 70% of production houses and Broadcast uses now.....


    I saw the list of all the movies edited with Avid....couldn't believe it


    BTW, I have Avid free running fine on my syetem.....God and the BSA only knows whats been installed on this thing
    And you think this has anything to do with you and what you are doing?

    If you intend to work for one of these companies best to get a job as an intern and learn on their dime. AVID software is mostly about workflow in a large facility were a project is split into many specialties and then converged into a final edit. That is the video side. The film side is still mostly an off-line edit decision workflow. The new 24p HDTV video workflow is beginning to bridge TV series, advertising and low budget film production.

    If you look at the credits at the end of a movie, you will get a hint how many people are envolved. If your goal is independent film, best to study their process flows and compromises.
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    it turns out if you spell Avid Free DV differently, like AVIDfree, you get completely different results on Google.

    anyway... here is a big screenshot spread & review from Australia that might give you some idea why I am learning it.
    http://www.avidaustralia.com.au/content/files/Free%20DV.pdf

    anyone who wants to precisely control audio (or do music lipsync, or layer long dissolves, or play with split screen) should read the fine print in this review.
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