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    Hi.. I'm def a newbie. I just bought a Panasonic PV-GS65 Camera. I have a PC with Win XP SP1. I've read the basics here, and tried to understand them...

    The manual is vague on how to download video to the PC. I understand the cam has a Firewire output to send Digital Vid to the PC

    If my PC already has a Firewire input on the Motherboard, do I also need to buy a Video Capture card?

    Many thanks!
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    No if you have a firewire input you just need to hook up a firewire cable between your camcorder and computer. Then it will copy the data.
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  3. miniDv capture video as a hugh digital file on tape, you don't need a video capture card.

    Firewire is not a video transport, it send data from minDV like a huge file.

    The freeware to transfer minDV avi file is winDV ( on the tool section on this site ).
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    Many thanks for the info.! I appreciate it.

    Ok.. so if I understand right, I download the MiniDV tape to my PC and now I have a huge .AVI file.

    Now I want to edit it.. (and eventually burn a DVD (NTSC format). I would like a simple-to-use editing program.. I've been reading here about the Windows Movie-Maker 2 program.. but I'm not clear if it will burn a final DVD.

    Any comments on this prog, or any suggestions what else I should try..?

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    I use VirtualDub Mod for editing. It works as well as the payware editors for DV. It also has many filters available if they are needed. You need to add the Panasonic DV codec. Then you can read and output the edited DV. Or you can frameserve the edited DV directly to a MPEG-2 encoder like TMPGEnc encoder to encode to DVD compliant MPEG-2 video. This eliminates having to save the edited file, along with the hard drive space it would occupy. (DV takes about 13.5 GB of hard drive space per hour of video.) Then all you need to do is author and burn it to DVD. I use TMPEGnc DVD Author for the authoring.

    If you want quick and easy, ConvertXToDVD will convert the DV directly to DVD format, though at lesser quality than the above method. There is a freeware version of it also in 'Tools' about 1/2 way down the page I linked to.
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    Windows Movie Maker can edit a DV-AVI and export in DV-AVI but it won't encode or author a DVD.

    Look at redwudz' suggestions.

    Commercial programs to consider are

    ULead Video Studio
    Adobe Premiere Elements
    Sony Vegas Movie Studio

    They all carry the process from capture to DVD authoring.
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    Thanks Redwudz and edDV....! but whoa.. as a newbie I'm a bit overwhelmed by lotsa new terms... this is going to be a steep learning curve, I can see..

    I guess I'll go and read the Glossary...

    Redwudz, I'm a bit confused as to the "order of processes" you suggest now. Is this right..?

    1. Download the DV from the cam to PC with winDV via Firewire
    2. Edit the .AVI file with VirtualDubMod
    (Where does the Panasonic DV Codec come in here..?)
    3. Send the edited file from VirtualDubMod to TMPGEnc to make the DVD
    4. Burn the DVD with TMPGEnc DVD Author.

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    Thanks for your patience... (this seems complicated!)

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    1 & 2 are correct. The panasonic DV codec allows you to work with the DV-AVI file in VirtualDub.
    3 Frameserve the edited file from VirtualDubMod to TMPGEnc to encode the file to a DVD compliant mpeg2 file. I personally use QuEnc (free) instead of TMPGEnc, but it's basically the same process.
    4. Use TDA to create menus and chapter points, and create the DVD file format to a folder on the hard drive. Test with PowerDVD.
    5. Use TDA again to burn.

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    1 is called "Capture", although I prefer my own term "Capsfer".
    2 is called "Editing"
    3 is called "Encoding"
    4 is called "Authoring"
    5 is called "Burning"
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  9. Originally Posted by chrisparry1
    2. Edit the .AVI file with VirtualDubMod
    (Where does the Panasonic DV Codec come in here..?)
    3. Send the edited file from VirtualDubMod
    You can skip these steps, and do it with DVDauthor. They are very time consuming and yield no real benefit.

    Try :
    1. Transfer the miniDV AVI file with firewire and windv.
    2. Encode it to DVD mpeg2 with TMPGenc.
    3. Load and author the mpeg2 into the tracks and chapters in TMPGenc DVDauthor.
    4. Export DVD project and burn.
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    Originally Posted by SingSing
    Originally Posted by chrisparry1
    2. Edit the .AVI file with VirtualDubMod
    (Where does the Panasonic DV Codec come in here..?)
    3. Send the edited file from VirtualDubMod
    You can skip these steps, and do it with DVDauthor. They are very time consuming and yield no real benefit.
    Editing yields no real benefit?
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  11. Does it in TMPGenc DVDauthor as title and chapter. Instant review and very very quick.
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    Err, so how do you cut out the bits you don't want? Add effects? Transitions?
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  13. In TDA, for the segment you don't want, add the video twice. On the first one, stop at where the start of deletion point, on the second one, start at the place you want to pick back up.

    TDA can't do transitions.
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    Originally Posted by SingSing
    In TDA, for the segment you don't want, add the video twice. On the first one, stop at where the start of deletion point, on the second one, start at the place you want to pick back up.

    TDA can't do transitions.
    So you don't do any editing then?
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    TMPGEnc DVD Author can do basic cut editing at I-Frame level, but editing encompasses much more than simple cuts. If you want fadein/out, crossfade, or other types of transitions you can't do that in TDA*. If you want to apply color (colour) correction or black/white level adjustments, or noise reduction filters, or do split screen effects, or any number of other benefits that this hobby/profession encompasses, then you need to follow the basic steps as described. It's true that not all videos need to be edited, but most can be made more appealing if editing is properly applied.

    *The new "pro" version may allow frame accurate editing, but I don't have it so can't confirm.
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