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    I have searched using the search method here and can not find this answer to this question and I don't know where to post this question.

    How do I make copies on my computer of dvds that I have made on my dvd recorder?

    I would love to make backup copies of dvds that I have made on my lite-on DVD recorder but don't know what programs I need.
    I have a PC with Windows XP ...it is a dell Dimension 4600 with a dvd burner in one drive.

    I would appreciate any help and points in the right direction.

    Again, I did not know which forum to post this in but since it is about dvds I have made on my dvd recorder that is why I thought to post it here.

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    just do a dvd copy in any dvd burning tool like nero burning rom.

    if it is a dvd-ram,dvd-vr read https://forum.videohelp.com/viewtopic.php?t=269692
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    no, it is not a dvd-ram...
    these are dvd-r and dvd+r that have been finalized...
    I should have mentioned that...
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    Originally Posted by Baldrick
    just do a dvd copy in any dvd burning tool like nero burning rom.

    if it is a dvd-ram,dvd-vr read https://forum.videohelp.com/viewtopic.php?t=269692
    Same thing. Just ignore the DVD-RAM reference.
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    I make a copy made from my digital max dvd recorder with DVD Decrypter, then burn that copy with Nero. Structure error comes up when I try to use DVD Shrink.
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    Hey Jill,

    you should be able to use DVDDecrypter

    (Place DVD in DVD-ROM drive) then
    (Mode) ISO Read Mode(Rip DVD to your Harddrive as an ISO file)

    Place quality DVDR blank in Burner then
    (Mode) ISO Write Mode (burn that image back to a blank DVD)
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    Before the update the firmware I can use DVD Shrink. I am too smart to update the latest firmware and DVD Shrink comes up with error when I want to backup the disk. Now DVD Decrypter is the only way.
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    THank you for your replies...
    I will try the DVD Decrypter...I just downloaded it and will see what happens...
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    Originally Posted by jbarth
    THank you for your replies...
    I will try the DVD Decrypter...I just downloaded it and will see what happens...
    You don't need DVD Decrypter because your DVDs are not copy protected. There is nothing to decrypt. You just need a disc-burning application such as Nero that makes duplicates of CDs and DVDs.
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  10. Frobozz: OTOH the Dell doesn't come with Nero, It could have Roxio or Sonic depending...

    So DVD Decrypter becomes a free of cost method that works flawlessly, which would be why DVD Decrypter is needed. Why spend money when a simple reliable software is available. I have Nero and still use DVD Decrypter to burn many things. And yes I also use it if I need a copy of the disc from my Pioneer recorder. I could of course burn multiple copies with the recorder but prefer to put the wear and tear on the much cheaper drives in my Computer.
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    Originally Posted by TBoneit
    Frobozz: OTOH the Dell doesn't come with Nero, It could have Roxio or Sonic depending...

    So DVD Decrypter becomes a free of cost method that works flawlessly, which would be why DVD Decrypter is needed. Why spend money when a simple reliable software is available. I have Nero and still use DVD Decrypter to burn many things. And yes I also use it if I need a copy of the disc from my Pioneer recorder. I could of course burn multiple copies with the recorder but prefer to put the wear and tear on the much cheaper drives in my Computer.
    Thanks for clearing that up. So it can make good sense to use DVD Decrypter even when decrypting isn't needed.
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    I downloaded DVD Decrypter today and I can read my homemade dvd and transfer to an ISO file but when I try to write the ISO file to a DVD...I get I/O error message device 1:0:0 Interpretation Check condition Cannot write medium Incompatiable Format and it will not write the dvd.
    I then found out through my sister that I should try a firmware update for my dvd drive (I have a NEC dvd RW ND 1300A) and found the firmware update then did it. I then tried a test burn after restarting the computer and at first it seemed to go fine but during the writing image phase, it stopped writing as the write speed was zero and it was just sitting there...so I had to cancel the ISO write. Any help on what might have caused that???

    I tried to burn the dvd via Roxio burning the ISO to dvd but get the message that the parameter is incorrect when I do a test to burn the dvd...and via Roxio help I can not find anything about parameter there...
    Any help would be appreciated.
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    And the answer is...FixVTS. Liteon DVD recorders aren't 100% compliant when they create their discs.
    My process is to use dvd+rw on the liteon, rip that with dvddecrypter in file mode, and drop a VOB into Fixvts and use the full dvd button. DVDShrink will open the resulting files and fix the remaining pack header problems.
    There are other workarounds but that is the fastest method so far.
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    Can I do this FixVTS on my homemade LiteOn dvd-r and dvd+r that are finalize?
    Could you post a little more detail process of how to do this as I am completely new to this?
    What is a VOB?
    What is File mode?

    My lite-on DVD recorder is LVW-5006. would this be one that is not 100% compatiable?

    I did try to write the dvd again and got the same I/O error message
    Interpretation:Cannot Write Medium- Incompatible Format.


    thank you very much for all your help!
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  15. You would use the same process as otpw1 has outlined. The only reason to use the RW discs is that they can be re-used whereas a -R and a +R are not re-useable. It is just an economt thing. Since you already used those discs it doesn't matter.

    So in summary take your disc and then continue the process from here "rip that with dvddecrypter in file mode, and drop a VOB into Fixvts and use the full dvd button. DVDShrink will open the resulting files and fix the remaining pack header problems."

    A VOB is the file that holds the video on a DVD, The IFo holds the instructions that tell the player where and what to play including chapters.

    So dvddecrypter in file mode will get the files onto the computer.
    FixVTS will fix problems
    DVD Shrink will then be able to fix the rest.

    However I have to ask. It sounds to me like you are having burning problems. The above procedure should not affect burning a ISO with DVD Decrypter. It is more to make the DVD into a standard format that any player can play.

    Try burning a data disk with files from your hard drive as a test. And let us know the results.

    Good Luck
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  16. As a follow up you are using the proper media in your DVD burner? IE some older drives could only use -R or other drives only +R or it might be the blank discs are not being recognized by you drive.
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    Originally Posted by TBoneit
    You would use the same process as otpw1 has outlined. The only reason to use the RW discs is that they can be re-used whereas a -R and a +R are not re-useable. It is just an economt thing. Since you already used those discs it doesn't matter.

    So in summary take your disc and then continue the process from here "rip that with dvddecrypter in file mode, and drop a VOB into Fixvts and use the full dvd button. DVDShrink will open the resulting files and fix the remaining pack header problems."

    A VOB is the file that holds the video on a DVD, The IFo holds the instructions that tell the player where and what to play including chapters.

    So dvddecrypter in file mode will get the files onto the computer.
    FixVTS will fix problems
    DVD Shrink will then be able to fix the rest.

    However I have to ask. It sounds to me like you are having burning problems. The above procedure should not affect burning a ISO with DVD Decrypter. It is more to make the DVD into a standard format that any player can play.

    Try burning a data disk with files from your hard drive as a test. And let us know the results.

    Good Luck
    This guy is new ... I'm not ... but I haven't used this FixVTS program [have no need for it ... yet] ... but ... " So in summary take your disc and then continue the process from here "rip that with dvddecrypter in file mode, and drop a VOB into Fixvts and use the full dvd button. DVDShrink will open the resulting files and fix the remaining pack header problems."

    Now the part about ... dropping a VOB into FixVTS ... sounds confusing.
    Just one Vob file ?? ... and then what ?

    Will it will check the structure of the other VOB files ... VTS_02_0.BUP ... VIDEO_TS.IFO ... etc ... etc ... inside the ... VIDEO_TS ... folder.

    Over a year ago ... I would have been looking for these kind of programs for fixing the files inside a VIDEO_TS ... folder ... but not anymore ... for some reason ... I just gradually got a way from the need to do this anymore.

    I'm not just asking this for myself ... but for the person ... asking us for help.
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    I am able to use my dvd burner for other programs like DVD xcopy as I have backuped my movie collection and just did one last week.

    I will try a data dvd and let you know...
    I did use a different dvd media for 1 test but used the same type dvd media as I normally do for the 2nd test...

    If I do dvd decrypter in file mode does it convert the dvd into a VOB?
    I guess that is one of the areas that I am confused...

    Thanks to everyone whom has posted here...
    I will try and see if I can do this with what directions are posted...I just thought maybe it would be nice to clarify some of them...thanks again.
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    @jbarth If you have 10 gig of hd space available you really should try some of this out, then ask questions. The time involved is pretty minimal, maybe 45 minutes of computer time. If you use dvd*rw there will be no material loss.

    @lacywest Fixvts will process the entire dvd if you hit the "full dvd" button regardless of which VOB you drop into it. This enables me to not have to put a trash file on the dvd before recording onto it with the desired assets.

    This is an old procedure....

    .1. Use dvd+rw, any speed seems to work fine.
    .2. Using the osd button, ALWAYS erase them, even the new ones. Yes, this matters.
    .3. Record a small amount of anything, (3 seconds is fine). This makes it more compliant for some reason; no, I don't understand why.
    .4. Now use your recorder as you want.
    I guarantee that DVDdecrypter will read the resulting disc in ISO read mode. Pack header warnings can be ignored.
    .5. Mount the resulting file in Daemon tools.
    .6. DVDshrink will reauthor the virtual dvd fairly quickly, and with the option to do some rudimentary editing. Notice that your junk file is invisible in DVDshrink.
    Use the save as ISO option.
    .7. Burn with DVDdecrypter using DVD+R bitset to DVDrom.

    .This is how I convert my old video tapes to dvds and have had good results.
    .The resulting dvds have no menu but play in everything I have tried them in.

    .Edit1 I let it run out of room routinely with DVD+rw, w/o any consequences. DVD+rw don't require finalizing

    The liteons (which the ILO dvdr-04 is a rebadged lvw5001) have some compliance issues. The above proceedure enabled me to get what I wanted on DVD in an expeditious manner.

    This is my current process, step by step.
    1. Same as before.
    2. Same as before.
    3. Using the rear inputs only, make your dvd. Avoid using anything less than sp mode.
    Spanning onto another dvd is better if practical.
    4. Using dvddecrypter (only because it automates the process) in file mode, read your dvd. If you want, you can drag and drop your the files from the dvd to a folder on the HD but dvddecrypter is easier. Pay attention to where it puts the assets.
    5. Open fixvts. https://forum.videohelp.com/viewtopic.php?p=1461961&sid=e9df58a1b75f46a58bb8d9fe5bf27592#1461961
    Pick a VOB, (any VOB) and drop it on the fixvts icon. The "full DVD" button will now be enabled. Make sure "in place" is checked. Click "full dvd". When complete click "cleanup". Close fixvts.
    6.Open dvdshrink. Use "open files". I use reauthor mode because I like my dvds to play then shut down.
    Play with it all you want but be sure to save as an ISO. If you get too confused here's a decent guide. http://www.mrbass.org/dvdshrink/
    7.Open imgburn. Use a DVD*rw until you're satisfied with your results. When you are satisfied use a dvd-r or a dvd+r bitset to dvd rom.

    Hope this helps, I don't type well at all.
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    Thank you for the very detailed reply.
    I have been able to make 2 successful copies of my homemade LiteOn DVDs using the method of downloading via file on decrypter then using FIXVTS to fix the problem...dragging one VOB clicking on FULL DVD and it fixed all VOB files...(although I just clicked full dvd...I did not do the clean up button as that was not stated early..I just did the basic process outlined earlier in this thread...Will that hurt my dvd that I made? I am able to play it in my dvd player on my tv???) then opening in DVDShrink to analyze then saving as an ISO to burn back in Decrypter...
    To get this process to work on my computer, I had to change my msconf file and reboot using a selective method because something on my computer programs that run all the time interfere with burning video dvds when everything is running (I have to do this process when I do DVD xcopy so I took a shot that I may need to do this with this process and I was right).
    I have one question...I don't know if I am done making a copy of the dvd that I transferred to an ISO file but wanted to transfer other dvds I have copied...Can I keep the first files from making this first dvd and still copy and upload other files for doing a second dvd or will that confuse the programs when trying to fix them using FIXVTS since you only drag one VOB and it fixes all when you click full dvd? Will it get confused which files go where if I have more that one contents of a DVD in the files or can I create a new file?
    As I mentioned earlier, I did not do all the detailed steps to make my dvd as you just posted because I did not know about them but just did the basic steps outlined and it copied the dvd successfully twice and they both play in my Koss dvd player on my entertainment center with no problems? Should I be worried that they are ok?

    Thank you SO much for all your help....I appreciate it more than you will ever know!

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  21. foolproof method is to copy an image of your DVDR disc from your settop recorder using CloneCD (version 5.0 and up which will work on CDs as well as DVDs) to your harddrive. will even work if drive is FAT32; it breaks the content up into 1gig segments. then use their burning applet to burn that image to a blank.

    cannot edit the content though.

    some computers do not like the extra folder that is created by the settop recorders. CloneCD doesn't care; it just copies everything.
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    Originally Posted by jbarth
    Thank you for the very detailed reply.
    I have been able to make 2 successful copies of my homemade LiteOn DVDs using the method of downloading via file on decrypter then using FIXVTS to fix the problem...dragging one VOB clicking on FULL DVD and it fixed all VOB files...(although I just clicked full dvd...I did not do the clean up button as that was not stated early..I just did the basic process outlined earlier in this thread...Will that hurt my dvd that I made? I am able to play it in my dvd player on my tv???) then opening in DVDShrink to analyze then saving as an ISO to burn back in Decrypter...
    To get this process to work on my computer, I had to change my msconf file and reboot using a selective method because something on my computer programs that run all the time interfere with burning video dvds when everything is running (I have to do this process when I do DVD xcopy so I took a shot that I may need to do this with this process and I was right).
    I have one question...I don't know if I am done making a copy of the dvd that I transferred to an ISO file but wanted to transfer other dvds I have copied...Can I keep the first files from making this first dvd and still copy and upload other files for doing a second dvd or will that confuse the programs when trying to fix them using FIXVTS since you only drag one VOB and it fixes all when you click full dvd? Will it get confused which files go where if I have more that one contents of a DVD in the files or can I create a new file?
    As I mentioned earlier, I did not do all the detailed steps to make my dvd as you just posted because I did not know about them but just did the basic steps outlined and it copied the dvd successfully twice and they both play in my Koss dvd player on my entertainment center with no problems? Should I be worried that they are ok?

    Thank you SO much for all your help....I appreciate it more than you will ever know!

    jill
    If you are careful where the programs put things you should be OK.
    Don't be afraid to create folders for this stuff.
    Generally, if it plays, you're golden.
    If I were you, I would attempt to load your copied DVD into DVDshrink directly (as a disc), let it analyze and see if it complains about something.
    If it doesn't, then your recorder may not need all these shenanigans!
    Mine certainly does.
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