Adobe vs Vegas - which would you choose?

If price were no consideration, which program would you recommend for a prosumer? Thanks

Either,

Describe more what you intend to do.

https://www.videohelp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=249547&highlight=vegas+premiere+avid

If a trial is available, try both and see which you find easiest to use. Years ago I did this with Premiere and couldn't get my head round it, tried Ulead MediaStudio Pro and found it easier (for me). I've stuck with it ever since. Conversely, my father tried MSP and couldn't get to grips with it, he found Premiere easier and has stuck with that.

I am by no means a professional, but I have been disappointed with the options available to me in simpler programs like pinnacle studio, so I'm looking for a program that will allow me to create prosumer level videos, doing a lot of editing and sound mixing, etc. I don't have enough time to be a pro, but would like to have those options there when I do edit video, as I am frustrated by simple programs that don't allow you much in the way of transitions, titles, etc.

Originally Posted by joellawilson

I am by no means a professional, but I have been disappointed with the options available to me in simpler programs like pinnacle studio, so I'm looking for a program that will allow me to create prosumer level videos, doing a lot of editing and sound mixing, etc. I don't have enough time to be a pro, but would like to have those options there when I do edit video, as I am frustrated by simple programs that don't allow you much in the way of transitions, titles, etc.

Either will work fine. Premiere is part of a large suite of programs. You may need to buy more. Vegas is more self contained for the "one man band" and has more audio features. IMO Vegas is also more stable in a home computer environment.

Has anyone tried the layers import from Photoshop in Vegas 6? That was the main disadvantage vs. Premiere in the past.

Originally Posted by edDV

Has anyone tried the layers import from Photoshop in Vegas 6? That was the main disadvantage vs. Premiere in the past.

I have used it many times with Architect, There seems to be a bug with raster layers of some kind.I can upload the file if you want to try it and see if it will Crash. . Other then that it's GREAT. When you work on the Image in Photoshop or paintshop ,it update's on the fly.Very nice feature, reminds me of After Affects.

I like Premiere. Never worked with Vegas, so I can't comment there.

Despite what some say, Premiere is very stable for me. I've edited way more videos than I care to remember. I've been using Premiere since version 6, and the latest Pro versions are the best. There is nothing you can do in any other NLE that can't be done in Premiere, outside of true 3D rendering. Premiere is also very efficient, you can edit through your project at lightning fast speed with the latest versions.

I'm sure Vegas is good, or no one would be using it. For me, Premiere is great and I have no interest in any others.

Defiantely Vegas. I have used both. HATE Premiere....Vegas is the wet dream of editors.

Vegas is better hands down....Premiere alsways LOCK UP!!! I used over and over but went rendering it Locks Up.. Vegas doesn't Lock up its more stable..

Most definetly Vegas. you'll get more editing done faster.

THe first video editing program I used was EditDv 2.0. Excellent everything, easy, understandable, realy used friendly but...not for winxp, not for files bigger than 2GB (mere 9 minutes of film) not export to dvd, etc..
Still looking for something similar. Got Premiere pro 1.0, only layout and look are similar, but way more complicated, no pan and zoom of still images, very limited title creation possibilities..also you have to have Encore to export timeline to dvd.
good luck anyway!!
Gregory001

I run Win2k, so I only have one choice - Vegas.

J

Originally Posted by reboot

BTW, I found a site that has the Vegas 6 + DVD +AC3 plugin + about 4 other things, for $599
Just goes to show, you don't have to purchase it from Sony.

Care to provide a link?
You mention the AC3 plugin...will this allow me to edit my videos from my Sony DVD camcorder that outputs in mpeg format with AC3 audio?

So far I have not been able to find any 'higher end' programs that support them.

Thanks.

Premiere gets my vote. I have the Adobe Video Collection Professional and I can create just about anything I want. In the 2 years I have used Premiere Pro , it has rarely locked up on me or crashed.

Originally Posted by BJ_M

Originally Posted by lordhutt

Originally Posted by reboot

BTW, I found a site that has the Vegas 6 + DVD +AC3 plugin + about 4 other things, for $599
Just goes to show, you don't have to purchase it from Sony.

Care to provide a link?
You mention the AC3 plugin...will this allow me to edit my videos from my Sony DVD camcorder that outputs in mpeg format with AC3 audio?

So far I have not been able to find any 'higher end' programs that support them.

Thanks.

vegas will not edit or import ac3

Vegas and Premiere are designed for original production. They both edit multichannel audio and directly support 5.1 editing including surround effects and spacial sound placement. They both place the AC-3 encoder in their respective DVD authoring programs (Architect and Encore).

If you want to import from a 5.1 AC-3, you must externally demux the 6 audio tracks to base audio.

Thanks for all the advice. It seems everyone is loyal to either vegas or premier. My plan, since I'm a student, was to get the educational version of Adobe Premier Standard (about $400). As stated earlier, if money weren't really an object, I too would have a mac with final cut pro. I guess I'll just have to wait until I'm rich to do that. Thanks for all your help. I have a trial of vegas so I'll give that a whirl and then decide. Any more input would be appreciated.

Yep, Vegas is the one.

As I have said in previous posts, the choice often depends on your goals and the peer group you will be working with.

It roughly breaks down this way for the big four.

AVID -
Professional film and episodic TV production.
Cable and local TV feature editing (inhouse)
Ad Agency (inhouse)
TV station news editing

Adobe Premiere -
Corporate multimedia departments
Graphics and print oriented production facilities (multi-use media)
Academic, engineering and scientific use
Niche market independents.
Home video editing - small share

Apple FinalCut Pro
Post houses - Light duty edit and prep bays using freelance editors
Ad Agency - second to AVID but growing
Independents (local ads, wedding video, business media) - second to Vegas
Home video editing - small share

Sony Vegas*
Independents (local ads, wedding video, business media) - very strong market share and growing
Home video editing - highest prosumer share

* Vegas is the new upstart recently acquired by Sony. Sony's goal is to dominate independent and prosumer market share in support of its HDV launch. A longer term goal is to get Vegas established in professional SDI production environments and TV stations in direct competition with Final Cut Pro.

Originally Posted by BJ_M

Though to be clear - AVID for film production is a 50-100,000$ system .... but it is a standard....

Far more than that just to get started.

Originally Posted by BJ_M

Several films have also been CUT on both FCP and Vegas also.. Lots of Music Videos and Consumer DVDs (lot of training dvds have been done on vegas) have also been on done on both systems ..

Offline cut yes but they never tell you about the team of 10 and the post house that finished the big scale project.

Originally Posted by BJ_M

Ad Agency - yea , FCP is very popular due to the large amount of apple systems in this classification ..

Ad agencies and post houses desire standardized work environments that have ready freelance operator communities so that they can hire qualified people on a project basis and not have to train them. Both AVID and Apple have invested heavily in development of a freelance operator base. Sony is just getting started with this. Up until now, the Vegas user community has been self taught and generally work for themselves on projects that they will finish.

I use Premiere so cannot comment on Vegas. One question though...
Can you use encoders that plug into Premiere in Vegas? like Procoder and/or Discreet Cleaner. If so I wouldn't mind getting a trial of it and trying it.
thanks.