New Philips Upscaling DVD Player DVP5982/37 1080P! and USB 2.0 Support?

[racerboom]

Before I brought it back to the store, I tried flashing 5960 firmware onto the 5982. I got some interesting results.

The U3 drive is now supported.
The HDMI no longer works (I had revert to RCA to see what I was doing)
Audio still worked on RCA
The stutter is now gone (I used the hacked 5960 PB support firmware)
The front panel eject button no longer works.


I flashed it back to 5982 and back to the store it went.

[jagabo]

Before I brought it back to the store, I tried flashing 5960 firmware onto the 5982. I got some interesting results.

The U3 drive is now supported.
The HDMI no longer works (I had revert to RCA to see what I was doing)
Audio still worked on RCA
The stutter is now gone (I used the hacked 5960 PB support firmware)
The front panel eject button no longer works.

Har! That's funny.

I wonder what Philips' problem is with packed bitstream. There must be a patent somewhere that keeps them from implementing proper support for it.

[mcaulayj1]

omg i bought a dvp5960 yesterday and have just read this. both of my hard drives are full of .avi films and .mkv hd films but i dnt think i can play them on my dvd player because it is usb 1.1

does any1 have any suggestions, is there anyway i can make them work?

[jagabo]

You'll probably find that USB 1.1 is sufficient for most of your Divx/Xvid files. If you are going to hook your drives directly to the DVD player they will have to be formatted FAT32 and they (usually) have to have their own power supply.

[mcaulayj1]

the are both western digital drives, so have power. one is fat32 and has my .avi films, all about 700mb. however the other is ntfa for hd films, 4 gb or over, as fat32 will not take them, does this mean they will not work? if i burn to dvd+rw will mkv and vob films work?

[jagabo]

the are both western digital drives, so have power. one is fat32 and has my .avi films, all about 700mb.

That should be OK.

however the other is ntfa for hd films, 4 gb or over, as fat32 will not take them, does this mean they will not work? if i burn to dvd+rw will mkv and vob films work?

The player can't read NTFS. And it doesn't play HD (nothing over 720x576) or KMV. So it won't play those files no matter what media it's on.

[timmins]

Any fixes for these problems:
1) Is anybody else having problems playing AVI files over 1.5gb in size. It plays the files for the first 90 minutes and then cuts off. It won't even skip to the next AVI file on the DVD disk. My 642 would.

2) Another thing my 5983 won't do is skip to the next file if I press the NEXT button on the remote control. Again my 642 would. It won't skip if in different directory. It works okay if in the same directory. Again my 642 would.

TIA

[GrayStrickland]

The player can't read NTFS. And it doesn't play HD (nothing over 720x576) or KMV. So it won't play those files no matter what media it's on.

Off topic, but you might want to consider a Popcorn Hour Network Media Tank. It's not another dvd player (so it's no replacement for the 5982 or any other dvd player), but a media player which will play just about any flavor of file off of a local hard drive (installed internally in the Popcorn Hour unit), an external drive connected via usb, or any accessible network drive. In terms of what it will play, it's much more forgiving than the Philips 5982 (which I own and like). I'm not knocking the 5982; just suggesting a new toy for your AV setup.

Media files supported

* Video containers:
o MPEG1/2/4 Elementary (M1V, M2V, M4V)
o MPEG1/2 PS (M2P, MPG)
o MPEG2 Transport Stream (TS, TP, TRP, M2T, M2TS, MTS)
o VOB
o AVI, ASF, WMV
o Matroska (MKV)
o MOV (H.264), MP4, RMP4
* Video codecs:
o XVID SD/HD
o MPEG-1
o MPEG-2
+ MP@HL
o MPEG-4.2
+ ASP@L5, 720p, 1-point GMC
o WMV9
+ MP@HL
o H.264
+ BP@L3
+ MP@L4.0
+ HP@L4.0
+ HP@L4.1
o VC-1
+ MP@HL
+ AP@L3
* Audio containers:
o AAC, M4A
o MPEG audio (MP1, MP2, MP3, MPA)
o WAV
o WMA
* Audio codecs:
o WMA, WMA Pro
o AAC
o MP1, MP2, MP3
o LPCM
* Audio pass through : DTS, AC3
* Photo formats : JPEG, BMP, PNG, GIF
* Other formats: ISO, IFO
* Subtitle formats : SRT, SMI, SUB, SSA

[jagabo]

Off topic, but you might want to consider a Popcorn Hour Network Media Tank.

It certainly sounds like a nice player on paper.

[GrayStrickland]

It certainly sounds like a nice player on paper.

FWIW... there is a very, very active forum of users of that device over at popcornhour.com. The response is generally pretty positive, but not everyone can make it play every conceivable type of file, codec, etc.

Sorry if it seems I was highjacking the thread. I'm a 5982 owner and came to read what the new firmware would do before installing it. I just couldn't help mentioning that pretty much all of the frustrations that we (5982 owners) have with our 5982s would be alieviated by using something other than a traditional dvd player to play our stuff. We always had the option of installing media center pcs, but at $179.00 for the popcornhour box (crappy name, IMHO, BTW), the options suddenly seem better. Disclaimer: I don't own one yet. I've ordered one and I've been following the discussions over at PH's site for several weeks, but I can't vouch for it personally.

EDIT: fixed link to popcornhour.com

[TBoneit]

BTW your link didin't work as it was "http://popcornhour.com/popcornhour.com" and not http://popcornhour.com/

It sounds interesting and I'll have to take a look at it since it has been mentioned here.

Cheers

[GrayStrickland]

BTW your link didin't work

[TBoneit]

Now that I have visited the site and read about it, it looks interesting. I'll be looking forward to your review once it arrives. I'd probably run out and buy one right now if they were readily available in a local store.

[dfisher052]

I just bought a new DVP5982/37 and made an interesting discovery. It won't play about half of my over 400 disc DVD collection. It won't play any of my discs burned on Staples -R, HP -R or Memorex -R burned in the DVD format. They will play if they've been burned as DIVX, not burned as DVD's. They all come up as "Unknown Disc". Now, the interesting thing is that they all played in my DVP642 with out a problem. They also will all play in my friends DVP5960. I checked to see if it was the latest vesion & it is. I bought it primarily because of the USB function, which works fine with both my 1GB SanDisk Cruizer (reformated to get rid of U3) and my 2GB PNY. Has anyone else experienced any problems playing certain makes of discs, especially the ones I've mentioned?

[racerboom]

Sorry that I can't offer any advice, but at this point I don't see how the 82 is a better player than the 60. The 1080p is insignificant over the 1080i. See my previous posts. Exchange it for a 60 like your friend's.

[TBoneit]

Could it be that the roblem isn't brand of disk? Could it be that those disks were created with different software?

The fact that they play with Divx files on them and not as a DVD format means there is something in the Authoring process or the burning software that your 5982 doesn't like.

Just my opinion based on makeing many discs and never having these types of problems with a 5960 or a 5982.

[dfisher052]

I think you may be right. All those discs were burned with the same burner. When I just tried a test of making a direct copy using the same brand discs with another burner (I have 2) they work, so it appears that the culprit is the burner & not the discs. It seems as though my older Optorite burner is not compatable with my new player, but my new Optiarc is, except I did make a burn on a dvd+rw with the older burner & that played fine. Even the discs I made with my even older Lite-On (my first dvd burner no longer in use) play fine. Now I guess I'll have to keep both connected to my system or spend some time & money re-dubbing the ones that don't work.

[Tercero]

I purchased a 5982 two days ago and found out right away that DTS 5.1 does not play on this. So, after finding this thread, I pulled down the latest firmware from Philips, followed the EXACT directions. And promptly killed my brand new DVD player. Not sure why, but it hung on the "load" after doing the initial "upgrade". I take it then that this can be confirmed as a "DO NOT UPGRADE" vs upgrade. Is it the use of both *.bin files that kill the upgrade, or has anyone come up with a reasonable explanation as to why this doesn't work. And, is there any way of playing DTS files?

Thanks,

J.

[Tercero]

I took the time to call Philips, and according to the CSR that I just spoke to, they are not aware of the problem with the upgrade failing and locking the machine up. Supposedly they'll investigate.

AT this time, I can recommend to anyone who reads this to not upgrade your DVP5982/37 to the Dec 3/07 firmware found on the Philips website. Unless someone can contradict this, I believe it's got a major bug in the code and you'll just end up losing the machine.

J.

[jaxxboss]

So.. the Popcorn Hour Network Media Tank.. What exactly is this? Im guessing that its a sort of hybrid pc/harddrive/dvd player?

So I add my hard drive to this unit and have it loaded with some xvid/ mkt files, H.264 , dvds etc and then plug it into my ??? what? My dvd player? My TV ?

The home page is rather lacking in how the set up works and assumes the viewer knows everything.

it does look intersting though, espec for the Hi Def ability

[Constm]

VERY strange issue with DVP5982 and NexStar NAS Drive.
Just bought 3 days ago Vantec NexStar NAS enclosure (USB2 + Ethernet) and was planning to use it with Phillips. Formatted it as FAT32, use external power (of course), plugged using _my_ USB cable (cable supplied doesn't work) and get drive recognized by the player. Copy over 100 GB of stuff on it. Video organized in folders and some folders have folders inside them. So, the problem is I can't open folder if there is another folder inside it. If it's just avi and mpeg files player opens it ok. I highlight it, press ok and nothing happens. Arrows don't work, I have to press USB key again to access optical drive and then switch back to USB. Anyone have similar issue? Any ideas?

Thanks,
Constm.

[racerboom]

I took the time to call Philips, and according to the CSR that I just spoke to, they are not aware of the problem with the upgrade failing and locking the machine up. Supposedly they'll investigate.

AT this time, I can recommend to anyone who reads this to not upgrade your DVP5982/37 to the Dec 3/07 firmware found on the Philips website. Unless someone can contradict this, I believe it's got a major bug in the code and you'll just end up losing the machine.

J.

Well,

For the day I had the 5982, I flashed it around probably over half a dozen times without issues (See previous posts if you want to know what I was doing). This includes flashing to the Dec. 3rd release by including BOTH .bin on the CD. I used Nero, a Memorex CD-RW, and followed the burn settings suggested by Philips.

I don't know why some machines run into issues upgrading. I'm inclined to think many users among this thread have succesfully upgraded as well.

[Tercero]

I'm wondering if the players that are having problems are refurbished units. I purchased mine from a discount wholesaler here in Canada for $39.99. Maybe there's some hardware issues...hard to say I guess. I had an older DVP642 that I used to upgrade the firmware on and never had this problem, but I purchased that at Best Buy/FutureShop. Just out of curiosity, did you burn your (CD) according to the instructions or did you just burn it as you normally would any file..using both *.bins. And I'm also wondering if this didn't work because I used a CD-RW. Any insight?

It's made me nervous about trying this again though. I guess I'm waiting for another version of the firmware to try the next time.

[jagabo]

I've changed firmware on my DVP-5960 several times and always used CD-RW. I burn with Nero Burning ROM and it's CD-ROM (ISO) template.

[Tercero]

So, it's probably nothing specific...unless there some hardware call in there that affects specific types of chipsets. I see my 5982 was made in China and there's a stroke through the bar code. I assume it's been refurbished once, so there's probably a problem that we're unaware of. Strange how it affects only certain machines. I might just take this back and get another (different) player though if I can't play DTS. It's not a heck of a great step up from my LG.

[Tercero]

Looks like I'm trying to spam the forum, but I'm not.


I took the advice posted about doing the upgrade without the S file included. And it went fine. I wonder why Philips would be so stupid to include this file if it kills the player.

[Fearnot]

I purchased a 5982 two days ago and found out right away that DTS 5.1 does not play on this.

Are you sure DTS doesnt play? I played DTS DVD's and they seem to work fine ...

Matt

[Colindale]

Does it play DVD - DL or DVD DL + discs

[TBoneit]

Maybe it is playing a dolby soundtrack?

Mine plays DVD +R DL Verbatims burned with Nero 6 or Imgburn with no problem.

[racerboom]

Just out of curiosity, did you burn your (CD) according to the instructions or did you just burn it as you normally would any file..using both *.bins. And I'm also wondering if this didn't work because I used a CD-RW. Any insight?

As I said in my previous post. I used a Memorex CD-RW and burned per Philips instructions without any problems. This means I included the "S" file.

I don't know. All I can say is that Philips is stupid.