Backing up Extras at full quality?

[gesplus]

I've searched and found plenty of topics on backing up the movie only, but what if one wanted to backup the extras too, at full quality, not compressed like DVD2oneX does?

I figure there is a noticeable difference in quality since it would be compressed. Is that true? I would rather use two DVD'd than lose the quality.

Any tips or links to resources on how to extract/record only the extras?

For example, one has Widescreen and Full Screen, I only want the Full Screen but want to add the Extra's as they will fit with the movie. I did MAc the Ripper, but I can't see in DVD2oneX how to do get one angle plus extras.

Or if I wanted the movie on one DVd and the Extras onanother.

Thanks.

[pixeljammedia]

YadeX or OSeX can rip specific Chapter/Titles. YadeX has a preview and so all you have to do is Shift click the Extras and extract them as VOBs (program streams). You can use VLC to look at individual VOBs to see what they contain if you use OSeX. Then Author it all with Sizzle or DVDSP.

[Frobozz]

Cinematize (miraizon.com) makes it easy to select which parts of a ripped VIDEO_TS folder you want to extract as streams. Toast 6 will author and burn the resulting files without re-encoding. It's very fast.

[galactica]

I figure there is a noticeable difference in quality since it would be compressed. Is that true? I would rather use two DVD'd than lose the quality.

You would be surprised by the quality. I suggest running one dvd though just so you see it for yourself. Its not bad at all! You can up the quality if you use my advanced method, keeping in mind that it removes all extras. For full quality movie only copy just split the dvd ascross 2 dvds

Any tips or links to resources on how to extract/record only the extras?

Just rip the whole dvd, find the extras by viewing the .vobs in VLC and copy the extras over to a new folder. You will have to then author a dvd with them, so its really a sizzle tutorial you need [if you dont know how to do that already]

For example, one has Widescreen and Full Screen, I only want the Full Screen but want to add the Extra's as they will fit with the movie. I did MAc the Ripper, but I can't see in DVD2oneX how to do get one angle plus extras.

My advanced tutorial will work for this [assuming you set the ratio equation to include the extras, where as i exclude them. your exclusion would just be the widescreen portion][/quote]

Or if I wanted the movie on one DVd and the Extras onanother.

this is the easiest. Do movie only copy with a full dvd rip. Then use the .vob's from the dvd rip and author your own extras dvd using sizzle. you can even make a menu for the extras with links to each one!

[gesplus]

Thanks a bunch. Big help.

I'll go through your tutorial and try all mentioned here. I didn't know about the tutorial page. 8)

I think I can figure it from here now.

Thanks to all.

[deadsierra]

Why the hell would you choose Fullscreen over Widescreen?

[thoughton]

I figure there is a noticeable difference in quality since it would be compressed. Is that true? I would rather use two DVD'd than lose the quality.

This makes it sound like you haven't actually tried a full disk copy with dvd2one yet. Try it. You might be pleasantly surprised. Use a DVD-RW if you're worried about wasting a disc.

[galactica]

agreed. you will be surprised at how good it looks. Its way better than what you expect if you are comparing it to previously viewed divx, vcd or svcd

[gesplus]

Why the hell would you choose Fullscreen over Widescreen?

Personal preference? Since these are help forums and I'm obviously new at this, why not try to help rather than chastise? What is the the advantage of Wide Screen over Full Screen? Other than seeing more of the sides of the movie. With Full Screen the main subject is larger.

Thanks, I think.

[galactica]

you are right, its personal preference.

i think you will just find that among videofiles widescreen is the accepted/"standard" format

no biggie though

[deadsierra]

Why the hell would you choose Fullscreen over Widescreen?

Personal preference? Since these are help forums and I'm obviously new at this, why not try to help rather than chastise? What is the the advantage of Wide Screen over Full Screen? Other than seeing more of the sides of the movie. With Full Screen the main subject is larger.

Thanks, I think.

I decided a long time ago that I would develop irrational preferences for things that don't really matter and defend them to the death for no apparent reason. I also thought that you had been thoroughly helped, and that I could do nothing further. If I can be of assistance, I'll try and help. Speaking of which, did you notice a quality drop after DVD2OneXing?

Actually, I suppose preferring a specific aspect ratio isn't totally irrational, and I can see why a person would prefer either one. Widescreen tends to be the original aspect ratio, however, and therefore can often have more powerful imagery, especially if the director doesn't suck (House of 1000 Corpses doesn't get better in widescreen, sorry). I guess its because I'm very interested in camera technique that I care. Not that you care why I care, but you got it anyway.

Speaking of irrational, don't try to prefer 'Kleenex' brand pocket pack facial tissues over GEM ones. I will fight you to the death.

Suddenly, back on track:

If you find you don't like the quality of the DVD2oneX stuff, you should do a movie only rip, and then butcher an extras DVD together with Sizzle. If you want a nice menu system and such, you could try DVDSP2 (expensive) iDVD (re-encoding is bad) or maybe Toast (ugly if you don't use a custom menu).

What OS X really needs is a good freeware (or cheapware) DVD Menu builder that has fairly good design support. And it shouldn't care what sort of files you throw at it. I have a friend that goes to some sort of technical institute that is supposed to teach him to write better code, so maybe I can abuse him into writing something like that.

Maybe there is a way to remove the main menu from a DVD and just have the extras menu show up as the main menu.

If you cannot understand any of this, its because I'm tired.

Note: I think I was trying to be funny for parts of this post.

[thoughton]

Why the hell would you choose Fullscreen over Widescreen?

Personal preference? Since these are help forums and I'm obviously new at this, why not try to help rather than chastise? What is the the advantage of Wide Screen over Full Screen? Other than seeing more of the sides of the movie. With Full Screen the main subject is larger.

Thanks, I think.

Aside from the issue of whether or not you want to see the film in the same format as it appeared in the cinema, surely it depends on what shape your TV is? If you have a normal TV you'd probably choose fullscreen, and if you have a widescreen TV you'd prbably choose ... err ... widescreen.

[deadsierra]

Why the hell would you choose Fullscreen over Widescreen?

Personal preference? Since these are help forums and I'm obviously new at this, why not try to help rather than chastise? What is the the advantage of Wide Screen over Full Screen? Other than seeing more of the sides of the movie. With Full Screen the main subject is larger.

Thanks, I think.

Aside from the issue of whether or not you want to see the film in the same format as it appeared in the cinema, surely it depends on what shape your TV is? If you have a normal TV you'd probably choose fullscreen, and if you have a widescreen TV you'd prbably choose ... err ... widescreen.

If you own a widescreen tv, then yes, you probably will choose the widescreen movies, but I currently own a 4:3 TV, and I only watch widescreen movies, and I know many others that do the same. I guess it depends on the person more than the product, really.

[geek rock]

What OS X really needs is a good freeware (or cheapware) DVD Menu builder that has fairly good design support. And it shouldn't care what sort of files you throw at it. I have a friend that goes to some sort of technical institute that is supposed to teach him to write better code, so maybe I can abuse him into writing something like that.
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i hear ya. it seems like there are 2 options for dvd authoring on the mac: idvd (simple, easy to use, but little to no features such as using pre-made mpegs, complicated menus, etc) or DVDSP (fully customisable, but a bitch to learn to use properly - and expensive).

i mean, sizzle is good, but (no offence) it's just not enough.

-Mark

[deadsierra]

Dude, DVDSP3 looks nice. Woo! MONEY LOSS!