ULEAD DVD PROBS

[filefeeder]

I have just tried for the third time to create this mpeg file, using ulead dvd moviefactory,with menu and chapters, and im getting this error : 'Some chapter entry frame numbers exceed the total frames' <---- any idea what its talking about? i have changed the amount of chapters each time, but still the same error.

[Grim-Ripper]

What is your source, frames per sec, codec, etc?

[filefeeder]

video: Divx mpeg4 ver 3
23 fps

[FOO]

Movie factory has a bug when adding chapters to
24 fps pulled down video. It thinks the video is 30 fps
and the chapters run off the end. Its a fatal bug as it
ruins the video. As a workaround don't put any chapters
past 80 percent of the video.

[filefeeder]

it came out all jittery,thats without chapters too, is ulead a crap authoring proggie?

[filefeeder]

video: Divx mpeg4 ver 3
23 fps

if the source is mpeg4, maybe i shouldnt convert back to dvd? which is the best mpeg for converting from....and to dvd?

[FOO]

Your source should be MPEG2
MF2 has a poor encoder. It will try to
re-encode your video if it's not DVD compliant.
You should convert your movie to DVD compliant Mpeg2
outside MF2 with something good first.

[filefeeder]

Your source should be MPEG2
MF2 has a poor encoder. It will try to
re-encode your video if it's not DVD compliant.
You should convert your movie to DVD compliant Mpeg2
outside MF2 with something good first.

which program do i use for this? i used tmpgenc, i thought it was the best.
also, the file i was converting was originally mpeg 4, can i convert from 4 to 2?

[Specialist]

Actually, Ulead DVD MovieFactory 2 has an excellent encoder.

One simply needs to learn how to use it.

On my Windows 2000 workstation, here's how I enabled ADVANCED encoding options:

1. I clicked on MY COMPUTER;

2. Next I clicked on my C: drive;

3. Next I clicked the Documents & Settings folder;

4. Next I clicked the ALL USERS folder;

5. Then I checked my TOOLS menu and made sure that my hidden files and folders were checked as visible in the Windows FOLDER OPTIONS menu;

6. Then I clicked the APPLICATION DATA folder;

7. Then I clicked the Ulead Systems folder;

8. Then I clicked the Ulead DVD MovieFactory folder;

9. Then I clicked the 2.01 folder;

10. Then I clicked on the DVDMF i-n-i file;

11. Then under the [VIODRIVER] heading, I typed ADVANCE=1.

Now Ulead DVD MovieFactory 2's COMPRESSION tab features a new button called ADVANCE.

An amazing new set of MPEG encoding options appear.

Ulead developed the MPEG encoder using the Main Concept SDK.

So this zipped Main Concept PDF file explains how many of the advanced options work:

http://digitalvideo.8m.net/mc-adv-doc.zip

Those of us who've been playing around with the options have discovered the quality settings can be bumped up significantly.

Jerry Jones
http://www.jonesgroup.net

[leebo]

Sorry, I don't see a compression tab.

[Baldrick]

Thanks for the tip specialist.....but I don't understand why ulead have hide the advanced settings

leebo: project settings -> change mpeg settings -> customize -> compressions -> advanced.

[Specialist]

Thanks for the tip specialist.....but I don't understand why ulead have hide the advanced settings

I suppose the prevailing opinion is that the i-n-i adjustment will satisfy pros and that the default options are enough for home users.

Personally, I believe this is something Ulead should re-visit in future versions.

So your point is valid - in my view.

Jerry Jones
http://www.jonesgroup.net

[tdogg4ya]

I have similar problem with Ulead DVD Movie Studio 3, I get error 'chapter entry frame numbers exceed the total frames'. I've removed almost all chapters and burns okay, but my only chapter on the 3 mpegs, doesn't go to point I told it. When I'm playing back and hit next chapter, it actuallys hits maybe a minute or two after where I set my chapter. Also the show length, ends at 33 minutes about, when it should end at about 45, but all the show plays like its 45 minutes? Is the counter off? This happens on computer and my dvd player. What is causing this? I really haven't had this problem before, except for this particular season I'm working on. Is it my files causing this? I use tmpgenc for encoding, is there some setting I adjust when converting to fix this?

[Specialist]

Are you inserting 24fps 2-3 pulldown video source files?

What are the precise video/audio properties of your source files?

How did you obtain them?

Jerry Jones
http://www.jonesgroup.net

I have similar problem with Ulead DVD Movie Studio 3, I get error 'chapter entry frame numbers exceed the total frames'. I've removed almost all chapters and burns okay, but my only chapter on the 3 mpegs, doesn't go to point I told it. When I'm playing back and hit next chapter, it actuallys hits maybe a minute or two after where I set my chapter. Also the show length, ends at 33 minutes about, when it should end at about 45, but all the show plays like its 45 minutes? Is the counter off? This happens on computer and my dvd player. What is causing this? I really haven't had this problem before, except for this particular season I'm working on. Is it my files causing this? I use tmpgenc for encoding, is there some setting I adjust when converting to fix this?

[tdogg4ya]

they are 23 fps, don't know about the pulldown or anything, I just drop them into tmpgenc and convert them with the dvd template

[dalecooper]

I am running into this error too, but the mpeg I am using is 30 fps - or so it said when I created it. I have been wondering since if something is wrong with my master mpeg, so I am running a new version of it right now. If all else fails I'll try the suggested workaround of not having chapters after the 80% mark. Although that suggests to me that the chapters will be in random, later spots if it is indeed 24 fps - correct? Irritating.

Strangely enough, Ulead had no problem with a reencoded version of this same movie. I can't guarantee it was the same fps, but I am almost positive it was; the only difference should have been that I changed it from 9500 max variable down to 6000 max (to reduce the filesize). I didn't consciously alter any other setting as far as frames or dimensions, and it was reencoded in the same program I originally used to make the mpeg (Womble's MPEG Video Wizard).

I guess if all else fails, I will just do random chapters for the first 80% and burn a DVD with no menu. I'm not married to the menu, but it would be nice to have one. Oh well.

Can anyone suggest a good alternate authoring program, in case nothing I do gets around this problem?

[tdogg4ya]

dalecooper, when it randomly does the chapters, does your clip length stay accurate? On mine when it does random chapter stuff the clip doesn't count up to the full 45 min about its supposed too. Instead it stops and like 33 minutes, but I've watched one, and it all plays? Check your too?

[dalecooper]

I'll check that out. I was able to create a DVD image last night by eliminating the last 25 minutes' worth of chapters. Annoying, but it worked. I re-confirmed that the file was 30 fps. I did notice when I was editing the mpeg in Womble MPEG Video Wizard that there was some running time display on the clip itself that said 1:15, but out to the side it listed 1:45, the correct total time. Don't know, but that sounds suspiciously like what you are talking about.

[p_l]

Same problem here. Could it be that this occurs with VBR clips, but not with CBR?

[tdogg4ya]

not sure about CBR, never use that, but I have had VBR with mpeg2 without the problems and time running error. I think its just the video, or the video converted from, or an error b/c of the video converted from. Thats my guess

[espresso freak]

Trying out the Workstation2 demo for the 1st time. Source is ATI MMC MPEG2, and I was careful to adjust the settings as I did NOT wish to re-encode what was already a compliant stream. Things seemed to go well, (after deleting the later chapters that kept generating that notorious Unspecified Error Error code: 800413a3” code), until I tried to play the disk. On play-back, the DVD demonstrated the worst AV-synchronization I’ve ever encountered in my life.

OK.. I think I know what’s going on here, but I’m not sure how to fix it. Had a theory, did a bit of math, and it seems what is happening, is that the while the “encoder” isn’t re-compressing my vid, it IS performing a 24fps-pulldown. (OK.. probably not the correct technical term… lets just say it’s “eating” every fifth frame)

The output is still humming along @29.970 fps, but with only 24 frames, the video runs out a lot quicker than the audio. This also explains why the chapter pointers toward the end wont work. They’re pointing to a time-index that doesn’t exist whence this butchery is complete. If my calculations are correct, any chapter point after 80.08% of the video will be invalid, and cause the program to puke.

Not sure why we’re loosing 6 frames per second here. Perhaps tweaking my capture formats’ GOP structure will do the trick?