frames dropping like crazy...

[x2pacalypsehalx]

hmm where do I start...first off i just bought a new so called 80 gig mxtor 5400rpm but it is actually only 74 gigs..so i try to capture in avi 720 x480 and i lose TONS of frames all of a sudden and i am an amd 1.3 and its under the ntfs file system..wtf do i do.

[x2pacalypsehalx]

i cap in vdub and my hdd stats are:

2mb buffer size
100mbytes/sec
(Ultra /ATA 100)
5400 RPM

[x2pacalypsehalx]

i just tried to cap in 15 fps no prob

but 29.97 = prob what is going on

btw i just had a 19 gig hard drive and it worked better with capping both maxtors..

[NeVeRLiFt]

What resolution you trying to capture at?
Also you should get a 7200rpm HD. It does make a difference.

[x2pacalypsehalx]

720 x480

[x2pacalypsehalx]

so yo ur saying that since its such a big hard drive it cant support capturing at 5400 rpm ?

[shochan]

What you need to know is if every driver is up to date, if your system can handle the codec and resolution you are capturing to. I had problem caping beyond 320x240 so I switched to picvideo mjpeg codec and can capture at 720x240 now. It works out great now. try their codec and turn off overlay and you should be okay.

[x2pacalypsehalx]

how u trun off overlay and i had a 20 gig maxtor 5400 that doesnt lose frames but my 80 gig maxtor 5400 does..??

[bachelor]

Check the read and write speed of your HD's. Use this tool:

http://www.justedit.com/pub/drivers/ezdvtest.exe

If it is below 5MB/sec, you are going to have problems. It should actually be upwards of 13MB-17MB/sec for both read and write.

If you have two HD's, then make the one that works your slave HD (the one without the OS running), and capture onto that.

[RaleighNC]

What's your capture card and software??

[x2pacalypsehalx]

ati aiw 28 mb

and i use vdub and sometimes mmc7

[RaleighNC]

You mean MMC 7.1?? Does mmc capture at best setting??

Is there a motion estimator on avi files?? If so, maybe you need to lower the rate since you are capturing at a high res.

Just a guess, check where the temp capture file is being saved. You maybe it's saving the temp one drive and writing to the other.

Is the 80 the slave drive?? Try making it the master on a the secondary controller.

Well, that's all my guesses.

[x2pacalypsehalx]

yeah im gonna make the 80 my mastwer and for my original 4 gig hard drive with xp im gonna make my 19 gig hard drive have xp and just not use the 4 gig

[x2pacalypsehalx]

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Check the read and write speed of your HD's. Use this tool:

http://www.justedit.com/pub/drivers/ezdvtest.exe

If it is below 5MB/sec, you are going to have problems. It should actually be upwards of 13MB-17MB/sec for both read and write.

If you have two HD's, then make the one that works your slave HD (the one without the OS running), and capture onto that.
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the results were:

5439 kb/sec read..
3098 kb/sec write...

is that bad?

[RaleighNC]

You never mentioned the 4gb. Where was that attached? If with the 80gb, the controller always syncs to the slowest drive. That's why it's best to separate cdrom drives.

[bachelor]

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the results were:

5439 kb/sec read..
3098 kb/sec write...

is that bad?
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Yes, that right there is your problem. Try capturing to your slave. I had the same problem with my 40 gig 7200 WD HD. It had a read/write speed around the same as yours. When I checked my 17gig 5400rpm WD HD, which was set as my slave, it had a speed of 17MB/sec for both read and write! When I captured to that drive, it captured flawlessly. Not sure what you are capturing, or what kind of connection you are using (firewire, etc...), but I was using a firewire connection, which is very fast and needs a fast drive to keep up. I'd love to know how to get my master drive, which should be faster than my slave, up to par, though. I'm going to try installing a controller card, as it may be the controller chip that is giving me problems. Also, I've been told that it is best to have each drive on a separate IDE cable. Just make sure they are both connected to the end of the cable, and not the middle.

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[x2pacalypsehalx]

okay i got it to work...thanx for that great hdd test..I now get around 10mb/sec when i do it..okay i instlled xp to the 80 gig and made it a master and installed the 20 gig as the slave and it works ..thanx for the help peeps...

[x2pacalypsehalx]

i just tested my 80 again and got a great total of..

18 mb/sec read 23 mb/sec write

for the 20 gig its 10 mb/sec up and down..

plus i partitioned my hard drive so i could store the xp files on the 80 gig but on a diff partition and that partition which is 2 gigs got a 27 read, 26 write..believe it or not?

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[RaleighNC]

Great! Now make two caps and edit in the morning. (j/k)

[bachelor]

Kool. Glad I could help. Could you tell me how you got your 80 HD master up to speed? Was that the same drive that got the 5439 kb/sec read and 3098 kb/sec write results? I still need to get my 40 gig 7200 master up to speed (presently getting the same speed as your did above, 3-5mb/sec). Just a little info, when I disconnected my slave (which was getting a speed of 17mb/sec read/write when it was attached to the middle of the same IDE cable as the master) from the IDE cable, and just had my 40 gig 7200 master hooked up to the cable, it was getting speeds of 13mb/sec. I just need to find out how to at least keep that speed when I hook up my slave. Do you have each drive on a separate IDE cable? If not, how did you get it up to speed?

[x2pacalypsehalx]

I have no idea..I just booted up with the 80 gig and the XP disc in the cd-rom so setup started..and I installed XP onto the 80 but not beofre I made the 80 my master..

It might just be because its a Maxtor..?

Its 5400 rpm but it doesnt drop too many frames , yeah there on the same...

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[RaleighNC]

bachelor,

It's been awhile, but I always thought the middle(colored) connector was the master on eide. I'll have to check.

[bachelor]

RaleighNC,

I was told by both Western Digital and Compaq that the master should be at the end, but they could be wrong. Let me know if they are.

[Nelson37]

Middle or end of cable is no different unless is special Cable Select cable (99% are standard). Different makes and models of drives have various characteristics which will cause them not to perform at optimum when sharing a connection. SOME of these are independent of rotation speed and throughput. If two drives will not coexist, try reversing Master/Slave jumpers. Otherwise, you must seperate them on different channels or get different drives.