every intel user is a love

[d4n13l]

The problem is now the more Hz a CPU runs at the better it looks on paper. In short, to the average dumbass that goes to a computer store (especially a chain store), the bigger the number of hertz that shouts out at them and grabs their attention, the more likely they are to purchase that computer. They wont even begin comprehend the huge differences between the architecture of different CPUs, thus they perhaps buy a slower, more expensive computer due only to a marketing practice. You cannot compare an AMD and Intel CPU purely on Hz, the difference in architecture is too great. The best mark is the price that they retail and what performance you get at that price. One CPU maybe more suited to your specific needs so you look at how it performs under certain benchmarks (and yes, there are actually circumstances that you would be better off with a P4, though be they small). The only problem now is that people are buying CPUS that they will never harness the true power of: its like taking a helicopter to work instead of your car. My P3 500 suits all my needs fine still, and I would consider myself a power user - compiling, encoding etc...
Too many people become entrenched in the GHz war. They should take the blinkers off and make an informed, intelligent decision on what to buy if they need a new computer; not one based purly on 'cred', fuelled by emotion or misguided by people who *think* they know so much but cant even explain SSE.

[TIbrO]

09/13/2001

EPoX 8KTA3 $85
AMD Athlon Thunderbird 1.4Ghz $105
512MB PC133 SDRAM $29
IBM Deskstar 20GB ATA-100 7200RPM $89

For $308 plus shipping you can get all of these components from participatin pricewatch online stores.

[Sleepy]

Thanks TIbrO,

I was kinda leaning towards the AMD 1.4Ghz already. I'm gonna take a look this weekend.

[KingJohn]

I love AMD chips, I think they make cool badges, door stops and are very useful for demonstrating to people what not to buy

I suggest that all you AMD owners ask for a pay rise as soon as possible, then you can afford to buy a real processor instead of a poor copy

How about we start up a fund, help out a AMD owner ?

No good replying to this message, its already been posted before yours

No matter what you say, it will still be here before yours

[lafamar]

Sefy, you're right. I agree with you.
Bye.

[aznguy]

for all you future AMD buyers...

Make sure you buy a motherboard that supports the new AMD "PAL#####" something... because the newer chips that comes out will only support motherboard with AMD760 and above....

I just bought a new system... AMD 1.4, ASUS A7M,256DDR, 40gigs, case,16xdvd,24XCDR, Geforce2Pro 64DDR, without keyboard, mouse, and monitor =( ... but pay under $1000

[pocholin]

Well AMD Boys, I have already used both AMD 1 Gz and Pentium III 1 Gz. Same op system and amount of ram (512MB).

AMD is faster on doing single taks, yes, I completely agree.

But Pentium is so much much better at handling 2 or more tasks at once. i've compared the chips using LSX-Mpeg encoder and burning CD's, or simple other tasks as browsing the internet. Pentium rocks when it comes to multitasking.

How many of you have printed 4 or 5 pages and try to open another program while printing? AMD takes for ever to open a simple program like excel or IE. Pentium does it a lot faster.

This is the reason I still and will continue to pay the extra buck for Pentium processors.

My opinion.
Alfonso de las Cuevas

[Sefy]

Sleepy, here is a little update on what TibrO recommanded which I quiet agree with as I have the same myself except a 1ghz CPU which I recently upgraded from my Duron 700, the only diffrent would basicly be a newer board which will provide you with better overclockbility, the board is EPoX 8KTA3 Pro which costs around 85-94$ with 2 years warranty.

aznguy, future CPU support will be with a simple BIOS update, i've already seen it working, and even older mainboard with no BIOS support will accept the newer CPU's, but won't take advantage of all the newer features (like SSE), take the Duron (Morgan) for example.

letmeinforgodsake, I'm simply ignoring you, you have no mind of your own except Intel Brainwashes.

pocholin, single tasks huh ? how about hmm.. this ?
4 Netscape Windows
TMPGEnc
ICQ, Getright, WebServer, FTP Server, AntiVirus, Netscape 6.1
Hauppauge's WinTV32
Printing a webpage of 4 pages through Netscape 4.78
and Burning a CDRW using Nero v5.5

Is that considered single or multitasking ? i'm not sure, i'm only using an AMD 1.0ghz, so i'm sure by what you said that I should have problems on atleast some of the tasks.

[d4n13l]

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On 2001-09-14 13:41:14, letmeinforgodsake wrote:
I love AMD chips, I think they make cool badges, door stops and are very useful for demonstrating to people what not to buy

I suggest that all you AMD owners ask for a pay rise as soon as possible, then you can afford to buy a real processor instead of a poor copy

How about we start up a fund, help out a AMD owner ?

No good replying to this message, its already been posted before yours

No matter what you say, it will still be here before yours
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Yeah, yeah. What EXACTLY are your technical expertise in this field? Could you please tell me why AMD architecture is inferior to Intel?

[Bullworth]

I've never had anything but AMD so far. My first computer was a K6 and I never had any complaints about it. I swore that someday I would get a Pentium but I never have. I've never had anything against Intel or AMD, both are excellent chips and both have their stregnths and weaknesses. What's the difference as long as it meets your needs?
I have to agree though that chipmakers are playing the numbers game. Stupid if you ask me, it's like comparing RPMs on between a 2 Liter and a V-8. Chip desigfn is the most important thing to look at. Do you think a 3GHz 486 is going to perform better than a 1GHz Pentium? Of course not!
Overall I just use what's deemed a good product. Buy on name only is not a smart reason to purchase something?

[djvirus]

This Intel, AMD thing is stupid, I say as long as your computer works and does what you want it to do. Then It's fine. Personally I have always used intel. And I will tell you why. Dual cpu. I know that AMD is coming out with Dual soon or already has. And when those mother boards become available I will get one, But hey!! I can rid a dvd and play a game of Quake or render something in Maya at the same time Peace and have a good day.

[Greg12]

i have a dream of a sphereorid processor.

360 degrees of transistor relays.