every intel user is a love

[xboy]

intel suck intel you small intel Loveers no intel AMD is the pentiumkiller

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[danmanx]

I like AMD too but you don't have to trash people for buying Intel. It's just not right.

[Sefy]

Xboy, As much as I would agree AMD is better then Intel, there is no need for such behaviour on the forums, everyone should respect each others opinions, nobody is forcing anyone to buy anything, so i'm asking you nicely if you can please not open topics like this, they are not constructive and they are good for no one, and just gives hard feelings to everyone involved.

Thank you.

[Greg12]

i never tried an amd.

i have always used intel and they are fair machines.

i'm goin for the p4 in my next laptop.


cut encoding time

[gf]

I guess someone makes too much money to buy a OVER PRICED UNDER PERFORMANCE PENTIUM4. The pentium4 @ 1.5 Ghz has approx. the same performance as the 1 Ghz pentium3. The Athlon @ 1.4 Ghz beats the Pentium 4 @ 1.7 Ghz. But some people love to throw their money away. Do you have some extra for ME?

[-=^SilentAssassin^=-]

AMD here w00t

[neoalphaflight]

i also have a amd pc. the best part is i can upgrade my cpu up to 1.4 ghz and counting. im curently at 800mhz. my first pc was an intel p3 @ 450mhz and i was only able to upgrade to 600mhz i believe. I love it due to the fact that i dont have to replace my motherboard so often as with intel. and i dont have that 1ghz limit as well

[Operationz]

I gotta agree: flaming anyone on message boards is lame
but I like AMD alot and always will

[Riot_Inc]

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can someone do something about that filtering???say it again:
"As much as a i agree with you, i'd say you're the Motherf.ucker for just trashing people for what they like. That's just unfair..."

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[valzuniga]

Who cares what it is, just be glad it doesnt take you 10 hours to encode a 1 hr and 20 min. divx file like it does me!

[thxkid]

personally never owned a Intel processor, why should I spend at least twice the amount for intal when a AMD at the same speed at half the cost will do just as good.
I was never happy with thw AMD 500K6-2 when it came to making, editing and encoding VCD's.
Once I moved over to a AMD 1.2 gig thunderbird 266 bus speed and 384 cache on chip, its exactly where I want to be fight now.
Plus could not pass up the deal I got at frys for this
1.2 gig with EOPX motherboard for $189. Then popped in 2-256megs of 133mhz ram for $32 each. Bring on VCD's and SVCD's now baby!

[Sefy]

We will always debate what is more prefered, some people just like buying the name, like those who buy a Sony DVD, they don't really buy quality, cause it's a known fact Sony can't play anything (just exgrating, ignore it!) and the same goes for those who buy Intel, if they had followed my link that shows in just how much AMD 1.2 beats a Intel 1.7 in GRAPHICS applications, I would highly doubt they would still go for an Intel, ESPECIALY considering it is a known fact Intel is going to change the socket for the P4 AGAIN late this year!

So please tell me what is the logic in buying an Intel ? performance ? I doubt it, it's just for the name which no longer justifies itself.

[diehrd]

I disagree with the assult on INTELL buyers..But if you see my sig I AM AMD TO THE END LOL....

By the way at a fsb of 145 and a clock of 10 this system out benchmarks a P-4 1.7 !!!!!{SiSoft Sandra 2001 Bench mark tests for professionals}

[diehrd]

I disagree with the assult on INTELL buyers..But if you see my sig I AM AMD TO THE END LOL....

By the way at a fsb of 145 and a clock of 10 this system out benchmarks a P-4 1.7 !!!!!{SiSoft Sandra 2001 Bench mark tests for professionals}

[Greg12]

tmpg pro will be optimized for sse

[shochan]

after much debate this is the final benchmark that will tell you that amd has surpassed the sse2 instruction set with its older enhanced 3d now technology. http://www.vr-zone.com/reviews/TH7RAID/page7.htm I was about to blow 500 bucks on a p4 board and processor until this. I am definatly gonna stick with amd. notice the tmpge results with the comparable amd and intel processor (the 1.4) even with the enhanced sse2 tmpge it couldnt beat the amd. waste my money love no!

If your gonna debate back it up with real information!

[mystikaldawg]

AMDs SUCK ASS!!!! I HAVE AN AMD AND IT'S SO loveIN SLOW THA BEST IS P4, P4 ALL THA WAY MUTHAFUCKAZ!!!!!!!

[Sefy]

Like was said before, if you are going to claim something, back it up with raw facts, such as this: http://www.aceshardware.com/Spades/read.php?article_id=45000195
watch how both a Single Athlon and a Dual Athlon 1.2ghz wipe the floor with a Dual Pentium 4 1.7ghz!

Oh, and finally Intel can match AMD 1.2ghz with their new 2ghz CPU ? oh did you recently buy P4 and paid a fortune ? such a pity, as they slashed prices by half AGAIN!, now why would Intel do that ? could it be they are having a bad sales year ? tss tss tss, I feel so sorry for them... NOT!

[mystikaldawg]

why tha love did it censored love(fuk)?

[Sweendog]

I like Intel. I like AMD. I like AMD better, but i have an Intel, so i gotta defend my choice.

But what ever floats your boat i guess.

[BadAsh]

I personally have never owned an AMD. I have heard all the good things about AMD but I have also heard the bad things. AMD has always had problems with graphics and even to this day software developers are forced to write code to get around such problems and at times to take advantage of things AMDs do that Intel doesn't.

In my eyes chipmakers like AMD only confuse the situation much like IBM in the past by introducing proprietary architectures that are not completely compatible with everything else on the market.

If you have an AMD and love it that is great. If you have an Intel and love it then good for you too.

For me, it doesn't matter what YOU have it matters what I have and what I trust. That isn't really a conceited statement... its just my way of saying use what you want but don't blast me or anyone else because we don't do it your way.

Don't even get me started on a Mac.... colorful paperweight.

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[Octagon]

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On 2001-08-27 22:22:26, Sefy wrote:
Like was said before, if you are going to claim something, back it up with raw facts, such as this: http://www.aceshardware.com/Spades/read.php?article_id=45000195
watch how both a Single Athlon and a Dual Athlon 1.2ghz wipe the floor with a Dual Pentium 4 1.7ghz!

Oh, and finally Intel can match AMD 1.2ghz with their new 2ghz CPU ? oh did you recently buy P4 and paid a fortune ? such a pity, as they slashed prices by half AGAIN!, now why would Intel do that ? could it be they are having a bad sales year ? tss tss tss, I feel so sorry for them... NOT!

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Shit sefy Rub it in why don't ya. Everyone knows intel messed up royaly. Now theyre trying to make up for it. DId THe pRICE of AMD GO DOWN AS WELL? Jesus christ I wish I waited a bit longer I could have gotten a 1.3ghz Amd for like $96. I checked price watch. Excuse me fellas while I go build an entire new coputer for less than $800. Hey sefy are the new palminos from amd any good?

[Sefy]

Octagon, as far as I know (Computerworld) AMD will also drop prices soon, but they are not in a hurry cause even Intel's 2ghz doesn't beat their top flag by much yet, and most benchmarks show AMD to be much superior.

I know the 1.4ghz/266mhz bus is now at 105$ on PriceWatch, with 1.5gb PC133 SDRAM for 84$, and a Cool EPoX 8KTA3Pro for 94$, you can build one amazing system for MUCH less then 800$, I wonder if you can do that with a P4 and RDRAM ?

And you see, I always backup what I say with RAW and HARD facts! I don't just say something is better, I prove it!

[danmanx]

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Don't even get me started on a Mac.... colorful paperweight.
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Hahahahaha! Yep! I know the next time I buy a computer, I don't care what's inside...just what color is it? Light blue? Green? Pink?

Oh yes. Back to topic. AMD is good. FSB speed is good.

[BILKO1]

I've got both P3600 @ 888 stable and fast T-BIRD 1ghz @ 1.4ghz not so stable but f"£$king fast i love them both for different reasons.....

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[AnnihilatorTokyo]

When I was first introduced to PC, AMD had some problems running certain applications, and sometimes Win95 didn't work like it should. So naturally I chose a Intel instead.
Since I know Intel is working fine, I bought Intel again.
However, I'm no stranger to buying an AMD next time, depending on what's available when my next upgrade will be.
I'm very happy with my P4 1.7GHz, does video conversion fast, 90min AVI to MPEG in 100min. Fine by me, and all my games run really fast. Performance is not only limited to the CPU, I bet that my machine is faster then some of the AMD at 1.2GHz (think that's the number that they compare AMD to Intel with in terms of GHz), and some are faster then my machine. All AMD-fans says Intel people look at the GHz, but I must say the same to you. There are many factors involved in making a PC fast, and CPU is only a part of it. So by making these accusations that a 1.2GHz AMD sweeps the floor with a 1.7GHz Intel, that might be true but not in all cases.

Sefy, you of all people should know that.

[Sefy]

AnnihilatorTokyo, actually I do know that, which is why I say AMD should do a PR rating, saying that their 1.4ghz is equal to atleast a 1.9ghz Intel as it beats it on just about everything, and I always say CPU isn't the only part, but the Mainboard is a big factor too!

You are saying your P4 1.7ghz is faster then SOME Athlon's at 1.2ghz, and I don't think that's very impressive, if you told me it beats an AMD at 1.7ghz, then i'd be impressed, but then some people will come and say, hey, don't compare the CPU's speed, then why on earth do we need those numbers for ? they tell us how fast is one from the other.

[pacmania_2001]

Instead of these numerous posts popping up why doesnt VCDHELP open up a whole forum just so the intel and amd can go at it with one another

[Sefy]

Don't we have enough of a World War 3 going on outside ? like for all I cares, let Intel fanatics buy Intel and spend all their money, it is their money! and let all AMD "fanatics" (like myself!) that refuse to pay through the nose, buy whatever they want, and all shall be well in the world!

Right after the entire Free World merges and bombs the living daylights out of every terrorists country, and wipe them off the face of the earth!!!

[Sleepy]

Hey Sefy,

I've been reading these debates about AMD vs Intel. I'm actually looking to upgrade my computer, but i don't have a lot of knowledge on hardware.

What's the best deal for my money "RIGHT NOW" in terms of: cpu, motherboard, video card with tv out??? Also, is pc-133 sdram good enough?? I've seen a lot of different types of ram advertised and i really don't know the differences.

Thanks in advance.