Converting Animes (14.999 fps)

[faye]

Hi all,

Does any of you have any idea how to encode with TMPGenc? I used virtualdub and the file info indicated that it has 14.999 fps.... should I select NTSC film then? Please advise. Many thanks.

[Don2050]

https://www.videohelp.com/tmpgencdvd.htm

[faye]

Thanks, but that doesn't quite answer my question. I'm trying to convert an avi file to mpeg and burn to VCD format. However, normally the film will be either 24fps or 29, this one is 14!! And i have no idea what to select in Tmpgenc!

[Vejita-sama]

Odds are this will not work out. But you can try the following:

1) Run TMPGenc and load the VCD template you want
2) Load the video source
3) Load the 'unlock' template (in .../templates/extras)
4) Click on settings and change the framerate to 29.97(internally 15, or something like that)
5) Confirm that the resize is correct (352x240 or whatever you desire)
6) Under advance set 'fullscreen keep aspect ratio'
7) Encode

This works for some DivX files. But the truth is anything other than 24, 25, or 30fps (and 25 can be tricky) won't normally play smoothly on a NTSC tv.

[GreyDeath]

If you pick the VCD template in TMPGEnc, then it should already convert it to 29.97 for you. You may notice some jittering in motion, but since it's animated, you probably won't notice it as much.

You may not notice anything at all since it's essentially half the frame rate and maybe easier for TMPGEnc to convert.

[faye]

Greydeath,

That makes alot of sense. I'll try that tonight, Thank you somuch.

faye

[puertorican138]

I use Adobe Premiere to change the framerate of a video without changing the length. The output is beautiful without any hiccups or jerkyness. :P

[puertorican138]

This is how you change the framerate without changing the length of the movie with Adobe Premiere:

1. Select a clip in the Timeline, and choose Clip > Video Options > Frame Hold.

2. In the Clip Frame Rate section, select Alternate Rate and type a new frame rate. It basically alternates to NTSC anyways.

3. Select Frame Blending if desired, and click OK.

4. Go to file, Export Timeline, Movie.

5. Save your movie with new a framerate. It's beautiful!

Hope That Helps!!! :P

[fantomlord]

@puertorican138:
you've done this successfully with anime at that type of framerate?

If you pick the VCD template in TMPGEnc, then it should already convert it to 29.97 for you. You may notice some jittering in motion, but since it's animated, you probably won't notice it as much.

actually, it's quite noticeable if you're starting with 15fps.

[puertorican138]

@puertorican138:
you've done this successfully with anime at that type of framerate?

I've done it with framerates such as 12.500fps, 14.985fps, 15fps, and even 20fps. They all come out beautifal when using Adobe Premiere to change the framerates. :P

[Anonymoususer]

In TMPGEnc Settings, Quanatize Matrix, their is an option, Default, Mpeg Standard, CG/Animation.

Anyone care to elaborate on that ?

[fantomlord]

This is how you change the framerate without changing the length of the movie with Adobe Premiere:

1. Select a clip in the Timeline, and choose Clip > Video Options > Frame Hold.
2. In the Clip Frame Rate section, select Alternate Rate and type a new frame rate. It basically alternates to NTSC anyways.
3. Select Frame Blending if desired, and click OK.
4. Go to file, Export Timeline, Movie.
5. Save your movie with new a framerate. It's beautiful!

What version of Premier?
I've tried both 6.0 and 6.5, and in both, when I open the file, under Clip Video options is greyed out. (audio options as well)
have you ever run into that problem?

[fantomlord]

nevermind...I figured it out on my own---I wasn't starting a new project, I was just opening the file. although, after changed the framerate and encoded, I got upside down video on my tv for the first time ever...

[puertorican138]

although, after changed the framerate and encoded, I got upside down video on my tv for the first time ever...

I've never had that problem on my T.V when changing framerates with Adobe Premiere. Also, did your output come out smooth like I proposed it would with Premiere???

[fantomlord]

I've never had that problem on my T.V when changing framerates with Adobe Premiere. Also, did your output come out smooth like I proposed it would with Premiere???

as far as I could tell--it's a bit distracting watching video that's upside down, and my TV's a bit heavy to turn upside down to check for sure.
does the framerate conversion take long for you?(Oh, and what are your specs?) It took quite a while--~20 minutes for a 30 second clip, if I remember.(I'm on a PIII 800MHz w/512MB RAM, running Win2K)
oh yeah, and what do you save the file to(i.e. HUFFYUV...)?
Thanks for the help!

[puertorican138]

as far as I could tell--it's a bit distracting watching video that's upside down, and my TV's a bit heavy to turn upside down to check for sure.
does the framerate conversion take long for you?(Oh, and what are your specs?) It took quite a while--~20 minutes for a 30 second clip, if I remember.(I'm on a PIII 800MHz w/512MB RAM, running Win2K)
oh yeah, and what do you save the file to(i.e. HUFFYUV...)?
Thanks for the help!

It takes about 26 minutes to a 30 second clip. What do you mean when you say what do I save my file to Do you mean codec If you mean codec then I usually convert it to DivX 5.0.2 or something like the Slow-Motion or Fast-Motion codecs.

[ZippyP.]

In TMPGEnc Settings, Quanatize Matrix, their is an option, Default, Mpeg Standard, CG/Animation.

Anyone care to elaborate on that ?

If converting animes (original post) then cg/animation should be selected. Apparently it softens some of the sharp edges which the encoder has some trouble with.