what happen if your preferred software house go down?

[marcorocchini]

sadly my in-sync corporation is unfortunately dead. I'm a cat, a desperate cat


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I wonder: is it legal to modify a old program even if the sotware house does not exit jet from 15/20 years?

I try to contact CEO of In-Sync corporation but I have some big difficult to find a specific person.

After 15 years of the big down I try to know if is there a way to buy the source code to try to adapt it in drivers, 64bit enhancement. But I cannot tecnically contat some person of the poor deceased and mythical In-Sync Corporation,

The site in down from 2003. Only there are some information but probabibly the company does not already jet exist.

From https://www.zeofirm.club/in-sync-corporation-3016561700:

The In-Sync Corporation operation operates in the United States of America in the state of the Maryland, at the 4905 Del Ray Ave Fl 2 Bethesda, Md 20814-2527 address, in the category. The In-Sync Corporation is on weekdays between 09:00 AM and 05:00 PM; weekends between 09:00 and 01:00 PM hours. You can find In-Sync Corporation operation at 4905 Del Ray Ave Fl 2 Bethesda, Md 20814-2527 address and telephone number 3016561700. Please use the map below to get directions to In-Sync Corporation operation.

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In-Sync Corporation Address: 4905 Del Ray Ave Fl 2 Bethesda, Md 20814-2527, United States Phone: 3016561700 foursquare, 3016561700 facebook, 3016561700 where, 3016561700 whois.

CEO of In-Sync is/was Jamie Carr. But I cannot find any email/contat to call him.

I'm depressed, please help a cat

[aedipuss]

no.

[Cornucopia]

Oh, FFS! Wake up Rip VanWinkle, and move into the 21st century finally.
Bite the bullet and move over to a real, modern NLE.

• Adobe Premiere
• Avid MediaComposer
• GrassValley/Canopus Edius
• Magix (formerly Sony) Vegas Pro
• Davinci Resolve
• Lightworks
• maybe even Cyberlink PowerDirect might be your speed

And if you retort with whinging about cats again, this will be the last time I EVER give you suggestions. Get a life, man.

Scott

[poisondeathray]

Many cat species have gone extinct in history. Adapt or go bye-bye


Did you try hiring a PI to find/stalk the CEO ?

Cats are supposed to be good "hunters", maybe not the ones near extinction


"You can't teach an old dog new tricks" - but you can teach a cat, right ?

[teodz1984]

modifying a program... nope there are patents and copyrights

plus eula of most programs forbid reverse engineering...


cased closed

[johnmeyer]

As long as this idiot insists on this juvenile, stupid, idiotic "I'm a cat" nonsense, I will not help him. In this case, I'm a programmer and might be able to offer some advice.

But I won't.

[_Al_]

How many important database videos you have as project only? Using lower thirds and such? Need videos to export with alpha? Can you export important database footage's with alpha?

While doing the switch you might actually sort out or make your database more clean and more efficient. You perhaps find suitable titles so it would look like your signature titling etc. It might be easier than you think. Who knows.

[usually_quiet]

I very much doubt that the source code for the Speed Razor NLE and Blade 2 still exists if development ended 15 years ago, especially given that In-sync itself has ceased to exist. It is time to move on to something else.

[marcorocchini]

I very much doubt that the source code for the Speed Razor NLE and Blade 2 still exists if development ended 15 years ago, especially given that In-sync itself has ceased to exist. It is time to move on to something else.

oh my c*t

but the owner, in theory, should have it. I would like to convince him to give it to me even at any cost.

From single .dll and assembly is not possible to generate the source code? OR in other works without the source code you can not do anything? not even adaptations from
32 to 64bit?!? On the web I have read that a person called Jamie Carr was CEO of the dead In-sync corportation but I can't find any reference to contact him or the programmers

And in all the cases: if a software house dead, the license agreement - from a legal point of view - remains valid in the subsequent years?

and however ... there would be no major reasons, at least in principle, to retain the source code since the product is no longer sold and the manufacturer no longer exists

[marcorocchini]

Did you try hiring a PI to find/stalk the CEO ?

only some minor references in the web. Generic search on radaris.com return a possible reference but nothing that return a real contact or email of him.

Another person: Jerry Hergenreder, In-Sync's director of sales and marketing

1 reference to linkedin but nothing to contact him

[marcorocchini]

[*]Adobe Premiere[*]Avid MediaComposer[*]GrassValley/Canopus Edius[*]Magix (formerly Sony) Vegas Pro[*]Davinci Resolve[*]Lightworks[*]maybe even Cyberlink PowerDirect might be your speed

Scott

oh it's true but they are extremely complicated

With my intellingence I need 350 years to learn only one

[smrpix]

[*]Adobe Premiere[*]Avid MediaComposer[*]GrassValley/Canopus Edius[*]Magix (formerly Sony) Vegas Pro[*]Davinci Resolve[*]Lightworks[*]maybe even Cyberlink PowerDirect might be your speed

Scott

oh it's true but they are extremely complicated

With my intellingence I need 350 years to learn only one

Are you arguing that rebuilding an NLE from the source code up is less complicated than learning to use one?

[marcorocchini]

Are you arguing that rebuilding an NLE from the source code up is less complicated than learning to use one?

but not rebuilding from zero. I need overall do drivers for import/export the new formats: MXF, MP4, MKV ecc.. (avoiding each time to transcode for import clips, even if in batch mode, and for export) and create 64 bit versions of all the assembly: if I don't mistake if you have the source code this is possible. Not easy but tecnically possible

[usually_quiet]

I very much doubt that the source code for the Speed Razor NLE and Blade 2 still exists if development ended 15 years ago, especially given that In-sync itself has ceased to exist. It is time to move on to something else.

but the owner, in theory, should have it. I would like to convince him to give it to me even at any cost.

Nobody keeps the source files and dlls for dead projects for 15 years. If a company can't sell such assets soon after it goes out of business, they are destroyed. They would have no value after only a few years.

[marcorocchini]

How many important database videos you have as project only? Using lower thirds and such? Need videos to export with alpha? Can you export important database footage's with alpha?

While doing the switch you might actually sort out or make your database more clean and more efficient. You perhaps find suitable titles so it would look like your signature titling etc. It might be easier than you think. Who knows.

What do you mean if "my footage have a switch for alpha-cat" ?

yes yes that I absolute need to manage the alphacat

need alwais import/export the acat, the "lower thirds" is the "strap" to "name" in graphics, or the bumper in RGBA for example this?

https://www.dropbox.com/s/kjrzgoowt8kbybj/alpha.mp4?dl=0

[marcorocchini]

Nobody keeps the source files and dlls for dead projects for 15 years. If a company can't sell such assets soon after it goes out of business, they are destroyed..

ohmy***

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[_Al_]

Grab a new NLE, some pro version, you can try it first, load your RGBA videos, look where you enable alpha.
Titles you need to make yourself, but you use simple rectangles, solid color with text it them. That is a NLE specific again, but basics, youtube is your friend.
Wiping out those lower thirds (if that is what you use) , that is again some effect.

[teodz1984]

If software author never declared it open source, i dont think he will hand over the source code without compensation..its dead move on cat..

[gonca]

[*]Adobe Premiere[*]Avid MediaComposer[*]GrassValley/Canopus Edius[*]Magix (formerly Sony) Vegas Pro[*]Davinci Resolve[*]Lightworks[*]maybe even Cyberlink PowerDirect might be your speed

Scott

oh it's true but they are extremely complicated

With my intellingence I need 350 years to learn only one

But don't forget, there is more than one way to skin a cat

[teodz1984]

Are you arguing that rebuilding an NLE from the source code up is less complicated than learning to use one?

but not rebuilding from zero. I need overall do drivers for import/export the new formats: MXF, MP4, MKV ecc.. (avoiding each time to transcode for import clips, even if in batch mode, and for export) and create 64 bit versions of all the assembly: if I don't mistake if you have the source code this is possible. Not easy but tecnically possible

Tall order..

It will take you 1000 years to reprogram it..

Cpming from the same cat who wanted to create a 3d rendered Hollywood Movie by using a hex editor..

[marcorocchini]

Grab a new NLE, some pro version, you can try it first, load your RGBA videos, look where you enable alpha.
Titles you need to make yourself, but you use simple rectangles, solid color with text it them. That is a NLE specific again, but basics, youtube is your friend.
Wiping out those lower thirds (if that is what you use) , that is again some effect.

Learn a new NLE I need 100 years only to put a small title. But in S****R**** I can use also Boris Graffiti 6 to make graphics and title

[marcorocchini]

If software author never declared it open source

Software License Agreement
Speed Razor

Software License Agreement

IMPORTANT

This Software License Agreement ("SLA") is a legal agreement between you (as an individual or entity) and in-sync corporation ("in-sync") for the product listed above and which includes the computer software and may include associated media, printed materials and online media ("the Software"). By installing, copying or otherwise using the Software you agree to be bound by the terms of this SLA. If you do not agree to the terms of this SLA, then do not install or use this Software.

The Software is protected by copyright laws and international copyright treaties, as well as other intellectual property laws and treaties. This Software is licensed and not sold.

1. Grant of License: in-sync corporation grants to you the following limited non-exclusive rights: In consideration of payment of the Licensee fee, in-sync, as Licensor, grants to you, the Licensee, a non-exclusive right to use this copy of the Software on a single computer. You may not network the Software or otherwise use it on more than one computer at the same time. You may not use, copy, modify, or transfer the Software or any copy in whole or in part, except as expressly provided in this license. All rights not expressly granted to Licensee are reserved to in-sync.

2. Ownership: As the Licensee, you own the disk(s) on which the Software is recorded or fixed. in-sync shall retain full and complete title to the Software and all subsequent copies of the Software, regardless of the media or form on or in which the original copies may exist. The License is not a sale of the original Software.

3. Copyright: The Software and all rights, titles and copyrights are owned by in-sync corporation or its suppliers and is protected by United States Copyright laws and international treaty provisions. Therefore, you must treat the Software like any other copyrighted material (e.g., a book or musical recording). You may not copy the written materials accompanying the Software.

4. Restrictions: You may not assign, rent, lease, sell, sublicense or otherwise transfer the Software to another party without the prior written consent of in-sync. Any party authorized by in-sync to receive the Software must agree to be bound by the terms and conditions of this Agreement.

5. Other Restrictions: You may not reverse engineer, decompile, disassemble, modify, adapt or create derivative works based on the Software or its accompanying printed or written materials. You may not distribute copies of the Software or accompanying materials to others.

6. Termination: Without prejudice to any other rights, in-sync may terminate this SLA if you fail to comply with the terms and conditions of this agreement. In such event, you must destroy all copies of the Software and all of its component parts.

Limited warranty: in-sync corporation warrants the Software will perform substantially in accordance with accompanying written materials for a period of ninety (90) days from the date of receipt. Any implied warranties on the Software are limited to ninety (90) days. Some states do not allow limitations on duration of an implied warranty, so the above limitation will not apply to you. This software contains technology licensed from Lex Computer & Management Corp.

in-sync corporation's entire liability and your exclusive remedy shall be repair or replacement of the Software that does not meet in sync corporation's limited warranty and which is returned to in-sync corporation with a copy of your receipt. This limited warranty is void if failure of the Software has resulted from accident, abuse, or misapplication. Any replacement Software will be warranted for the remainder of the original warranty period of thirty (30) days, whichever is longer.

in-sync corporation and it suppliers disclaim all other warranties, either express or implied, including but not limited to implied warranties of merchantability and fitness for a particular purpose, with respect to the Software, and the accompanying written material. This limited warranty give you specific legal rights. You may have others, which vary from state/jurisdiction to state/jurisdictions.

In no event shall in-sync or its suppliers be liable for any damages whatsoever (including, without limitation, damages for loss of business profits, business interruption, loss of business information, or other pecuniary loss) arising out of the use of or inability to use this in-sync product, even if in-sync has been advised of the possibility of such damages. Because some states/jurisdictions do not allow the exclusion or limitation of liability for consequential damages, the above limitation may not apply to you.

The Software and documentation are provided with restricted rights. Use, duplication, or disclosure by the Government is subject to restrictions as set forth in subparagraph (c)(1)(ii) of the Rights in Technical data and Computer Software clauses of DFARS 252.227-7013 or in subparagraphs (c)(1) or (2) of the Commercial Computer Software - Restricted Rights at 48 CFT 52.227-19, as applicable.

The laws of the State of Maryland govern this agreement. Should you have any questions concerning this agreement, or if you want to contact in-sync corporation for any reason, please write:

in-sync corporation

7920 Norfolk Avenue, # 700

Bethesda, MD 20814

[teodz1984]

As said in the SLA


3. Copyright: The Software and all rights, titles and copyrights are owned by in-sync corporation or its suppliers and is protected by United States Copyright laws and international treaty provisions. Therefore, you must treat the Software like any other copyrighted material (e.g., a book or musical recording). You may not copy the written materials accompanying the Software.


5. Other Restrictions: You may not reverse engineer, decompile, disassemble, modify, adapt or create derivative works based on the Software or its accompanying printed or written materials. You may not distribute copies of the Software or accompanying materials to others.

Game over for you unless you want to repeal it in court with the State of Maryland and the US copyright office

[marcorocchini]

As said in the SLA


3. Copyright: The Software and all rights, titles and copyrights are owned by in-sync corporation or its suppliers and is protected by United States Copyright laws and international treaty provisions. Therefore, you must treat the Software like any other copyrighted material (e.g., a book or musical recording). You may not copy the written materials accompanying the Software.


5. Other Restrictions: You may not reverse engineer, decompile, disassemble, modify, adapt or create derivative works based on the Software or its accompanying printed or written materials. You may not distribute copies of the Software or accompanying materials to others.

Game over for you unless you want to repeal it in court with the State of Maryland and the US copyright office

unless I get the owner's rights, if I became the new owner I could do with it what I want. Until then, however, I can still use the software is not exactly game over

[teodz1984]

Go to court and settle itPay them millions

[marcorocchini]

I mean if the owner sell to me all the rights (and source code) so I become the new owner. The problem is to contact the owner

[teodz1984]

For how much are you willing to spend ?5 bags of catfood?


Get a life... a real one in fact

[jagabo]

Just convert your source video to uncompressed or losslessly compressed AVI. Virtually every NLE will be able to open that. Or you can frame serve your video via AviSynth and AviSynth Virtual File System. That will make your video look like an uncompressed AVI to any NLE.

[usually_quiet]

Nobody keeps the source files and dlls for dead projects for 15 years. If a company can't sell such assets soon after it goes out of business, they are destroyed..

ohmy***

Move on and learn how to use a new editor or change careers.

It would not make sense for In-sync's owner to hold onto the complete source code for Speed Razor for 15 years. There would be no hope of selling it to another software company long before now. Speed Razor was already obsolete years ago, and reviving it would become increasingly costly.

That leaves the developers. It is very unlikely that anyone who worked on Speed Razor walked away with personal copies of the entire project after the company went out of business. When the branch office I worked in closed its doors and all the employees were laid off, my supervisor examined what I took with me on my way out the door to make sure that I didn't steal any company property. Even if a programmer kept a copy, that person wouldn't have the legal right to sell or give away the source code. I know this because I used to write software for a living and had to sign away the rights to any code that I wrote as a condition of employment. The company that employed me was the legal owner of everything that I wrote.

[zing269]

Try the Maryland Secretary of State's office, they should have records of the business including officers and possible law firms. As to who owns the software now that will depend on how the corporation was structured and if the assets were sold when it was dissolved. From a more practical standpoint, if you don't plan on distributing your modified version then you are unlikely to suffer any consequences. In the US at least copyright violations and failure to abide by a license is a generally a civil, not criminal, issue and would require the current owner to bring suit against you.