how 720p movie under 500mb size

[gta5]

how 720p movie under 500mb size(quality is same), but if we render 720p 5000kbps h264 it takes more than 1gb ,how can i do 720p movie(120min) to 500mb ,is there software trick.
(when i see detalis its 400kbps bit rate, but when we render it its looks worst )

[gta5]

new example
a movie
length 02:08:25
width 1280
height 720
data rate 0kbps
total bitrate 41kbps
frame rate 23.98 frames/second

please explain this

[gta5]

the reason is i dont have enough space on my hdd, so i have to make them in a small size without compromising quality

[hech54]

so i have to make them in a small size without compromising quality

NOT possible.

[gta5]

so i have to make them in a small size without compromising quality

NOT possible.

then how thats made

[pandy]

so i have to make them in a small size without compromising quality

NOT possible.

then how thats made

Well, it is possible but you have contradictory requirements - quality means information and to not loose information you need very efficient video codec - probably such video codec not exist yet... You can try to use more efficient codec like H.265 (instead H.264) but don't expect significant bitrate reduction - so you must accept loss of quality - that's all.

[lingyi]

The HDD storage cost for an additional 500MB is a few cents at most. I understand that not everyone can afford to keep buying additional or larger hard drives, especially since prices outside the U.S. are much higher. But given that your computer has a $300+ processor, you've inquired about <$1000 videos cards for faster rendering and want to watermark your videos, I suspect your interest in trying to squeeze a 2+ hour movie to 500MB isn't because you can't afford a larger hard drive.

[hello_hello]

The 720p movies I've seen at 500MB have had lots of noise filtering applied to make them easier to compress, but they've still looked like the bitrate was too low.

[Hoser Rob]

so i have to make them in a small size without compromising quality

NOT possible.

then how thats made

It's not. You can't get good quality from a 2hr video in 720p in 500Mb. It's only llok decent on a small phone screen, maybe.

[_Al_]

From time to time there is someone who presents videos that are way below 1Mbit/s and they are all animations. Some of them are almost represented as slideshows. That is a significant difference to compress those as oppose regular motion picture features.

Take two extremes. A movie that consists of 500 images for two hours, that movie compression could be really tiny in size. On the other hand , consider video with real actors, hand held, shooting with camcorder, sharp images and all, not even 3GB would be enough for 720p.

Compression results are content dependent. You cannot compare quality if trying unconditionally comperes them all into the same size. If you do that, quality starts to differ (sometimes a lot) between them.

[gta5]

The HDD storage cost for an additional 500MB is a few cents at most. I understand that not everyone can afford to keep buying additional or larger hard drives, especially since prices outside the U.S. are much higher. But given that your computer has a $300+ processor, you've inquired about <$1000 videos cards for faster rendering and want to watermark your videos, I suspect your interest in trying to squeeze a 2+ hour movie to 500MB isn't because you can't afford a larger hard drive.

the reason is i am doing lot of work, making lot of videos,not downloading movies

[gta5]

the question still remains, i guess its compressed but what software of is it possible data rate 0kbps
total bitrate 41kbps and still the video quality looks like 720p

[jagabo]

the question still remains, i guess its compressed but what software of is it possible data rate 0kbps
total bitrate 41kbps and still the video quality looks like 720p

Obviously, the bitrate report is wrong. How big is the file? What is the playing time?

stream size = bitrate * running time

So to make a smaller file use a lower bitrate.

Keep in mind that some material compresses much better than others. For example, animation can be compressed more than live action video. Noiseless video compresses much better than noisy video.

[pandy]

the question still remains, i guess its compressed but what software of is it possible data rate 0kbps
total bitrate 41kbps and still the video quality looks like 720p

No audio, static content, feasible... for normal video such codec don't exist yet - you need wait for codec that allow to provide compression close to 7000:1 - also almost sure that you searching not for 41 kbps but somewhere around 410kbps - then at some quality loss this should be possible.

[gta5]

[Attachment 47302 - Click to enlarge] so....

[lordsmurf]

The 720p movies I've seen at 500MB have had lots of noise filtering applied to make them easier to compress, but they've still looked like the bitrate was too low.

You can make 720p cartoons look good at ~2 hours at ~500mb.
Not live action.
The details are in the encode parameters, meaning not default settings. Reading required.

From time to time there is someone who presents videos that are way below 1Mbit/s and they are all animations.
Compression results are content dependent. You cannot compare quality if trying unconditionally comperes them all into the same size. If you do that, quality starts to differ (sometimes a lot) between them.

Yep, exactly.

[pandy]

[Attachment 47302 - Click to enlarge] so....

so? as i've wrote previously - feasible under some limitations - proof bellow 1920x1080, 24 fps, 14kbps video - better than your example:

General
Complete name                  : E:\Media\FF\997_0dBFS_bg.mp4
Format                         : MPEG-4
Format profile                 : Base Media
Codec ID                       : isom (isom/iso2/avc1/mp41)
File size                      : 104 KiB
Duration                       : 30 s 417 ms
Overall bit rate               : 28.1 kb/s
Writing application            : Lavf58.22.100

Video
ID                             : 1
Format                         : AVC
Format/Info                    : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile                 : High@L4.1
Format settings                : CABAC / 4 Ref Frames
Format settings, CABAC         : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames      : 4 frames
Codec ID                       : avc1
Codec ID/Info                  : Advanced Video Coding
Duration                       : 30 s 417 ms
Bit rate                       : 14.9 kb/s
Width                          : 1 920 pixels
Height                         : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio           : 16:9
Frame rate mode                : Constant
Frame rate                     : 24.000 FPS
Color space                    : YUV
Chroma subsampling             : 4:2:0
Bit depth                      : 8 bits
Scan type                      : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)             : 0.000
Stream size                    : 55.2 KiB (53%)
Writing library                : x264 core 157 r2935 545de2f
Encoding settings              : cabac=1 / ref=3 / deblock=0:-3:-3 / analyse=0x3:0x113 / me=dia / subme=0 / psy=1 / psy_rd=2.00:0.70 / mixed_ref=0 / me_range=16 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=0 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / fast_pskip=1 / chroma_qp_offset=0 / threads=3 / lookahead_threads=1 / sliced_threads=0 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / interlaced=0 / bluray_compat=0 / constrained_intra=0 / bframes=3 / b_pyramid=2 / b_adapt=1 / b_bias=0 / direct=1 / weightb=0 / open_gop=0 / weightp=0 / keyint=infinite / keyint_min=24 / scenecut=0 / intra_refresh=0 / rc=crf / mbtree=0 / crf=50.0 / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=8 / qpmax=69 / qpstep=4 / ip_ratio=1.40 / pb_ratio=1.30 / aq=1:1.20
Color range                    : Full
Color primaries                : BT.709
Transfer characteristics       : BT.709
Matrix coefficients            : BT.709
Codec configuration box        : avcC

Audio
ID                             : 2
Format                         : AAC LC
Format/Info                    : Advanced Audio Codec Low Complexity
Codec ID                       : mp4a-40-2
Duration                       : 30 s 102 ms
Duration_LastFrame             : -21 ms
Bit rate mode                  : Constant
Bit rate                       : 8 265 b/s
Channel(s)                     : 2 channels
Channel layout                 : L R
Sampling rate                  : 24.0 kHz
Frame rate                     : 23.438 FPS (1024 SPF)
Compression mode               : Lossy
Stream size                    : 30.4 KiB (29%)
Default                        : Yes
Alternate group                : 1

[gta5]

its a normal hollywood movie under 400 mb how can anyone achieve this, if you render a video in video editor it takes over 2gb

[Attachment 47303 - Click to enlarge]
original eg

[blud7]

1. If your movie has a lot of dark scenes
2. If your movie does not have a lot of grain
3. If your movie doesn't have a lot of motion (e.g. action scenes)

it is possible to have a decent quality video at <700 MB using h264 or h265 @ 720p.

Set your bitrate and use the slow setting on your encoder. Also, what GUI are you using? Some of them (like Handbrake) have some unusual settings that mess with your encoding.

As someone mentioned before as well, animation compresses nicely as well, better than live action movies.

[Anonymous5394]

I've seen excellent 720p with pixel ratio as low as 0.05 from a pristine source. If the source is of a very good quality you can still achieve good quality from around 0.07 to 0.10 with H264 codec compression, but what you are asking can be difficult for the uninitiated(not so much with H265 and some clever avisynth filtering!) but we usually have an initial higher bitrate size or use 1 pass crf using H264 to ensure some semblance of quality.

I once had a similar length 720p film and reduced it for a test to 500mb to give a reasonable pixel ratio of 0.066(but still too low!), but to do this I had to reduce the resolution and there lies the rub: lossy to lossy and reduced resolution= loss of detail again. I did this with Super Simple Video Converter 2015 portable and was surprised by the quality I saw, as I'd expected a bad encoding and got quite the opposite. Thanks to wonderful FFMEG onboard. Pazera Mp4 Video Converter(a bit more complex) is excellent too using a more modern build of FFMEG with a lovely GUI allowing 2 pass in both H264/H265 as well as Xvid.

Try either one, I thinks they are available from here still. You can upscale too or just increase the bitrate or aim for size 700mb as a test run and keep the same resolution aiming for a good pixel ratio. Just use SSC's(less likely to make a mess with this software) slow best settings. It uses custom/smart version of 1 pass abr and to be honest I could never tell the difference from this or a 2 pass visually, I'd done using Handbrake, though some still argue 2 pass is always better for bitrate allocation. Your choice. Have fun!