Blu ray extracting/transcoding for a movie file. Help appreciated !!

[THUGGY1111]

Hey guys. I m a bit new to the extracting encoding/transcoding world for movies so i need a bit of help. I have some blu ray ripped movies from a friend that will not play on my xbox 360. Most of the time I am finding that when i rip movies or get rips from friends and want to play them on my 360 they seem to have too many audio channels?? Most of the time i can use software to simply convert the video files to a workable xbox 360 copy. However, i am wondering what avenues i should go about when i encounter a situation where it only seems that the audio containers are what i need to change, instead of converting an entire movie and spending many hours waiting for it.

So for example, i have a blue ray rip of a movie that currently will not play on my xbox 360 in this format. I have all the details here. I have Xilisoft Video Convert 6, so i am wondering is this is decent software for converting this file, and if so what is the best format to convert to?? Divx HD or regular Divx? I have many options with Xilisoft, so without losing a lot of quality and audio any advice on what format to convert it to for the xbox would be great !! But if there are some good free ones out there that may work better for my situation for converting faster with better quality let me know !

Complete name : C:\\The Mask 1994 BRRip.h264
Format : MPEG-4
Format profile : Base Media
Codec ID : isom
File size : 1.25 GiB
Duration : 1h 41mn
Overall bit rate : 1 768 Kbps
Encoded date : UTC 2011-01-01 22:50:32
Tagged date : UTC 2011-01-01 22:50:32

Video
ID : 1
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : High@L4.1
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames : 3 frames
Format settings, GOP : M=2, N=21
Codec ID : avc1
Codec ID/Info : Advanced Video Coding
Duration : 1h 41mn
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 1 320 Kbps
Maximum bit rate : 4 284 Kbps
Width : 720 pixels
Height : 400 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate mode : Constant
Frame rate : 23.976 fps
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.191
Stream size : 955 MiB (75%)
Writing library : x264 core 67 r1162M f7bfcfa
Encoding settings : cabac=1 / ref=3 / deblock=1:0:0 / analyse=0x3:0x113 / me=umh / subme=7 / psy_rd=1.0:0.0 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=12 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=2 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / chroma_qp_offset=-2 / threads=6 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / mbaff=0 / bframes=3 / b_pyramid=0 / b_adapt=2 / b_bias=0 / direct=3 / wpredb=1 / keyint=250 / keyint_min=25 / scenecut=40 / rc=2pass / bitrate=1320 / ratetol=1.0 / qcomp=0.50 / qpmin=10 / qpmax=51 / qpstep=4 / cplxblur=20.0 / qblur=0.5 / vbv_maxrate=24000 / vbv_bufsize=24000 / ip_ratio=1.10 / pb_ratio=1.10 / aq=1:1.00
Encoded date : UTC 2011-01-01 22:50:32
Tagged date : UTC 2011-01-01 22:52:47

Audio #1
ID : 2
Format : AAC
Format/Info : Advanced Audio Codec
Format profile : LC
Codec ID : 40
Duration : 1h 41mn
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 317 Kbps
Maximum bit rate : 475 Kbps
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Channel positions : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Compression mode : Lossy
Stream size : 230 MiB (18%)
Encoded date : UTC 2011-01-01 22:51:53
Tagged date : UTC 2011-01-01 22:52:47

Audio #2
ID : 3
Format : AAC
Format/Info : Advanced Audio Codec
Format profile : LC
Codec ID : 40
Duration : 1h 41mn
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 125 Kbps
Maximum bit rate : 157 Kbps
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Channel positions : Front: L R
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Compression mode : Lossy
Stream size : 90.7 MiB (7%)
Encoded date : UTC 2011-01-01 22:52:26
Tagged date : UTC 2011-01-01 22:52:47


I am assuming that because of the 6 channel audio, that is why i am having issues? if there are more reasons, let me know. So here are my main questions. What is the simplest/fastest route to take to convert this so it will run on my xbox 360? I assume i could extract the audio and then transcode it back into a new format that will work on my 360. However, if there are faster and simpler ways for me to go, please let me know and if possible give me as many details as possible, such as what are the best software programs to use etc. Thanks for your time !!!

[lowellriggsiam]

Try this dvdfab -> iso open the iso in fairusewizard and set the output to xbox360, or codec settings xvid.
If the idea is to just reencode tha audio use virtualdub. Set the video output to "direct stream copy" and audio to "full processing mode"

[THUGGY1111]

Hmm maybe i am missing something, but the file is not in iso format. It is still the normal avi movie file. Do i need to extract it first into an iso and then follow your instructions? if so let me know what to do and what software to use

[lowellriggsiam]

If you are just wishing to transcode the audio you just load the avi into virtualdub and follow the instructions for that.

[THUGGY1111]

Hmm virtualdub is saying that video is unsupported. Any other ideas?

[lowellriggsiam]

It's saying that the avi is unsupported? Try virtualdubmod. If that fails it's possible it doesn't like the AVC codec. Then try avidemux.

[THUGGY1111]

Well i had changed the file extension so that was my bad. It is an mp4 file but before i had found out it had 6 channel audio, i switched the extension since most times mp4 files work on xbox when you change the extension. I am thinking it doesn't support the movie file since it is not avi maybe?

It is saying it is of an unknown or unsupported file type. So i changed it back to the proper file extension and it is saying the same thing. So i am assuming Vdub doesnt like mp4 files?

Also, if i use the one above you listed is there specific instructions i need, such as what type of audio to encode in etc. All i want is audio that will be supported to run on my xbox. Oh and before i forget to ask, I shouldn't lose too much of the audio quality by changing it correct??

[THUGGY1111]

ok i downloaded avidemux since virtualdubmod wasnt recognizing it either. Now i have it open but because i am still a bit of a noob on re-encoding etc, can you give me some step by step instructions on what to do once i load the file etc?? Thank you

[lowellriggsiam]

Well i had changed the file extension so that was my bad. It is an mp4 file but before i had found out it had 6 channel audio, i switched the extension since most times mp4 files work on xbox when you change the extension. I am thinking it doesn't support the movie file since it is not avi maybe?

It is saying it is of an unknown or unsupported file type. So i changed it back to the proper file extension and it is saying the same thing. So i am assuming Vdub doesnt like mp4 files?

Also, if i use the one above you listed is there specific instructions i need, such as what type of audio to encode in etc. All i want is audio that will be supported to run on my xbox. Oh and before i forget to ask, I shouldn't lose too much of the audio quality by changing it correct??

Nothing I am suggesting should affect the quality in any noticeble way. Come to think of it for simplicity purposes use handbrake.

[lowellriggsiam]

#1 locate the MP4 file
#2 the default output should be mp4
#3 choose the output location
#4 set the audio
#5 click "start" to start the render process
#6 enjoy

[THUGGY1111]

thanks for the info lowell i will give it a shot !!

Hmm so far i am trying handbrake but it seems like it is going to take 10+ hours for it?? Other software normally takes way less time. Any reason for this?

[lowellriggsiam]

thanks for the info lowell i will give it a shot !!

Hmm so far i am trying handbrake but it seems like it is going to take 10+ hours for it?? Other software normally takes way less time. Any reason for this?

Quality? I have never given it much thought as it has never taken me that long to rerender something. I am, after all, trying to keep things simple here.

[THUGGY1111]

yah it is 720P so thats understandable. Also it is recognizing the audio as unknown and not giving me any other option. Is that normal? I forgot to mention this is a single file as well, i have not extracted the audio out. I did have the audio extracted in a separate folder a week ago but i deleted it when i found other software that will convert everything for me and there is no need for the extracted audio. So do i need to extract the audio or can i just run this through handbrake as a single contained file?

I am only brining up the "unknown" aspect since in your handbrake screen i see that your audio source shows "Automatic". I dont get that option it just has an unknown where you have automatic with no options. Is that normal??

I can give you more details if i load it up again. I stopped the last session of it when i realized it would take 8 to 10 hours and figured i would convert it again once i am sleeping. Also even though i am converting this back as an mp4 as you suggested, xbox does not recognize mp4 but you can change the file extension on most mp4's to avi and then they work. Is that my plan here? Get this thing down to 2 channel audio, and then change the extension to avi when complete?

[lowellriggsiam]

I get the "unknown audio" when I use it to compress video tutorials I have made, Recorded TV shows, or homebrewn DVDs. It's no big deal. Let's go with avidemux.


1) File -->open (locate your file)
2) Set Video as "copy" or choose a conversion (avc, xvid) whichever suits you.
3) Set Audio as "mp3", or "AC3"
3.5) Audio->Main Track
4) Set Format as something that the xbox will recognise like "avi"
1) File ->Save-> video
At this point you'll have to give it a name whatever.avi and the choose where to output it.

[neomaine]

Hey guys. I m a bit new to the extracting encoding/transcoding world... some blu ray ripped movies from a friend ... I have many options with Xilisoft, so without losing a lot of quality and audio any advice on what format to convert it to for the xbox...

1 - I've reported your post. Warez/moviez/pirating not allowed See the TOS for vhelp.com.

2 - Buy the movie.

3 - Xilisoft sucks.

4 - Go to Microsoft and see what the 360 supports for video and audio codecs. It's in black and white.

5 - You're lazy AND you want it for free. Not a good combination of personality traits.

[Baldrick]

Buy and rip.