Tv Show Ripping...

[yetti12]

Hey everyone,

I know i'm going to get flamed here for doing this but i'm sorry! I honestly did reading way before i even signed up for the site, but after reading and bookmarking and comparing i still haven't gotten the right answer to my problem...So i apologize again for creating a another thread on this topic...

My Problem:

So i have a Box set Season 1 of The Big Bang Theory (Great show in my opinion : ) and i would like to rip it, and store them on my external HD as well as future season and other tv series that i personally own!. Each disc has roughly 5-6 episodes on them. What i have done so far is used DVDFab to rip "main movie" and was left with five (5) .vob files each in a 0.99GB file size. But by doing it this way all the episodes are interlinked in each .vob file.

I have used DVDshrink to extract each episode, which became quite a pay considering i had to use Start/end time button to do this job.

So my question is: Is there a faster/easier way to extract each episode and haveeach episode its on Icon.. preferably with same quality and hopefully small file size?
(Basically what i would like to achieve is the same outcome you would find when you visit certain P2P sites (i will not name them because im sure its against rules of this site) and can find complete seasons of TV shows, is one large 2.9 or 3.5GB folders...)


OR

is there a way to rip the each disc of each season just like i would a regular DVD and have just one *MAIN* file? That u would be able to play via my laptop to my flat screen using HDMI...


Hope you guys can help! and hope its somewhat simple

[Bjs]

Welcome yetti12

1: Rip full disc to hd only
2: Load ripped content into dvdshrink (hopefully no problems appear)
3: In dvdshrink select "reauthor mode"

You can now process each episode as an individual title to their own folders ... simply really

[hech54]

Each episode disc/set is different. Most discs of the set have...say...5 individual episodes on them. Sometimes each episode is it's own title, other times there are 5 episodes in one title and each episode is a chapter....and many times one of those 5 episodes with appear as an "extra" in software like DVDShrink(authored that way to confuse rippers - copy/structure protection). There is no standard "plan of action" that covers box sets.
You also need to IGNORE VOB files. They are simply part of the specified DVD structure. They do not relate to the episodes or number of episodes on disc. What you are looking for is inside that series of VOB files.

[yetti12]

Welcome yetti12

1: Rip full disc to hd only
2: Load ripped content into dvdshrink (hopefully no problems appear)
3: In dvdshrink select "reauthor mode"

You can now process each episode as an individual title to their own folders ... simply really

Hey bjs,

Is there really a difference between ripping the FULL compared to the MAIN MoVIE? Cause i have done MAIN movie like i stated and was left with those 5 VOB files which consists of the whole show...

also what i have done was inserted the DISC 1 of season 1 and use re author in DVDshrink and just dragged over the main title (2:07:55) and just used Start-End time to crop each epiosde... i was then left with a title one its own - 600-700mb each.. BUt that was somewhat of a pain and always resulted into VOB files.. What im looking for is the same result you would find on a torrent site where you (not the right thing to do) would be able to download one massive torrent which consisted of one season chopped into there own files/episodes....

or could i just rip each disc like i would a movie and have just the main file main movie..

[yetti12]

Each episode disc/set is different. Most discs of the set have...say...5 individual episodes on them. Sometimes each episode is it's own title, other times there are 5 episodes in one title and each episode is a chapter....and many times one of those 5 episodes with appear as an "extra" in software like DVDShrink(authored that way to confuse rippers - copy/structure protection). There is no standard "plan of action" that covers box sets.
You also need to IGNORE VOB files. They are simply part of the specified DVD structure. They do not relate to the episodes or number of episodes on disc. What you are looking for is inside that series of VOB files.

hey hech54,

i sort of get what you saying and stuff, but its a tad confusing lol...

when you ignore VOB files what exactly do you mean? to me it doesnt seem like i have a choice because the output of ripping with dvd fab and shrink is VOB..

I just dont understand how the other people on those illegal sites obtain a 2.94-3.5gb for a whole season... when im getting like 4 files of just disc one and its equally 4.6GB...

[classfour]

Is there really a difference between ripping the FULL compared to the MAIN MoVIE?

You only get the movie - which is what you want. In Full mode, you get the entire disc.

If you want to preserve the menu, you can use Customize mode (if your version of Fab allows it), and select the episode.

You can then cut out the extra links (and recreate if needed ones) using DVDRemakePro.

[yetti12]

Is there really a difference between ripping the FULL compared to the MAIN MoVIE?

You only get the movie - which is what you want. In Full mode, you get the entire disc.

If you want to preserve the menu, you can use Customize mode (if your version of Fab allows it), and select the episode.

You can then cut out the extra links (and recreate if needed ones) using DVDRemakePro.

Hey classfour, i know there's a difference srry for that comment..

But do you know how to achieve what im looking for exactly?

[hech54]

when you ignore VOB files what exactly do you mean? to me it doesnt seem like i have a choice because the output of ripping with dvd fab and shrink is VOB..

Your individual episodes are inside those VOB files....but if you have 5 or 6 episodes and only 3 or 4 VOB files...that is a dead giveaway that those VOB files are useless to you. Those VOB files represent nothing of what you need. VOB files only exist on a DVD...nowhere else. 5 episodes with 4 VOB files means that those episodes ARE spanning across those VOB files..therefor alone they(VOB files) are useless to you. You need to load the VIDEO_TS folder(that contains those VOB files) into DVDShrink and work on getting each individual episode from there.

I just dont understand how the other people on those illegal sites obtain a 2.94-3.5gb for a whole season... when im getting like 4 files of just disc one and its equally 4.6GB...

Because those are not DVD Video....those are "files" that have been heavily compressed(see lesser quality) from the original DVD.(see below)

So my question is: Is there a faster/easier way to extract each episode and haveeach episode its on Icon.. preferably with same quality and hopefully small file size?

Same quality smaller file size?....No. You will lose quality.

Taking "movie only"....on a movie....is easy. When you get into discs with episodes on them...that requires some thought if you are trying to end up with each episode as a single "file"....which I think is your main goal.

[classfour]

I typically rip in "movie only" mode, then re-author with TDA3.

For a series that I both want to preserve quality and insert a menu, I'll pull out a clip that I can later insert into the menu using TDA3.

I can then control the order of playback, etc..

If I want to add multiple episodes, I can add each one until I reach the size that I want (or want to stay under).

[yetti12]

[QUOTE=hech54;2026016]

when you ignore VOB files what exactly do you mean? to me it doesnt seem like i have a choice because the output of ripping with dvd fab and shrink is VOB..

Your individual episodes are inside those VOB files....but if you have 5 or 6 episodes and only 3 or 4 VOB files...that is a dead giveaway that those VOB files are useless to you. Those VOB files represent nothing of what you need. VOB files only exist on a DVD...nowhere else. 5 episodes with 4 VOB files means that those episodes ARE spanning across those VOB files..therefor alone they(VOB files) are useless to you. You need to load the VIDEO_TS folder(that contains those VOB files) into DVDShrink and work on getting each individual episode from there.


You are right! i do have 4 files and the whole show is spanning over those 4 files.. what i did do is drag each file and use the start/end time button and literally start and stop the show after each episode...

so what you want me to do is take the "Main movie" (2:07.55) and use dvdshrink like i was doing above?

Well when i ripped the "Main Movie" using DVDfab i was left with a whole bunch of files... including video_TS file.. = like 6.00kb or something...

[yetti12]

@ hech54

what i have after ripping main movie with DVDFab


INSIDE (VIDEO_TS)

VIDEO_TS.BUP
VIDEO_TS (6.00kb)
VTS_01_0.BUP
VTS_01_0
VTS_01_1 (0.99gb)
VTS_01_2 (0.99gb)
VTS_01_3 (0.99gb)
VTS_01_4 (0.99gb)
VTS_01_5

so what i did was try and extract those .99gb file using dvdshrink doing that start/end time stff but i end up with with like each episode equally around 600-700mb each... is that right?

[hech54]

Here is a screenshot of an episode disc from a box set (Monk):

You can clearly see the 4 individual episodes there. My suggestion would be to drag ONE episode over and make ONE DVD per episode...this is the easiest way for a rookie or newbie. This will ensure that this time....each VOB really is only one episode. Then use something like VOB2MPEG to transform that episode(VOB) into a single mpeg file that you can name whatever you want.

[yetti12]

Here is a screenshot of an episode disc from a box set (Monk):

You can clearly see the 4 individual episodes there. My suggestion would be to drag ONE episode over and make ONE DVD per episode...this is the easiest way for a rookie or newbie. This will ensure that this time....each VOB really is only one episode. Then use something like VOB2MPEG to transform that episode(VOB) into a single mpeg file that you can name whatever you want.

Did you just insert the Monk disc 1? and saw that? and let me try that..

ps how did you do that screen shot like that i tried that and its soo small lol

[hech54]

Did you just insert the Monk disc 1? and saw that? and let me try that..

Yes

ps how did you do that screen shot like that i tried that and its soo small lol

It's a clickable link.

[yetti12]

so here's what i did...

inserted the season 1 disc one

drag over title 2 0:22.50 (754mb) over to the left side edited the ending time to make the size a little smaller (got rid of credits) now =654mb single file..
then clicked back up and saved it to a specific folder. Do i need all those other files? or can i delet them and keep the main video (654mb file)

Also when i try and do the next title 3... and save it to the same location DVDshrink gives a warning telling me that files exist and need to be deleted in order for me to continue.. is there a way around this or i need to save to a diff location every single time?

Also am i doing it right?

[yetti12]

also this seems exactly like what i was doing before except i used the title 1 main movie file 2:07.55 and just cropped each episode with start and end time....

[craigarta]

One time I saw someone had a whole season on 1 dvd. Reason was they recoded and used the 352 X 480 res feature in dvdrebuilder. It looks ok on older tv's but not on what you are watching it on. Since you are storing on a external HD why not make them into avi's or mkv files and save some space.

[yetti12]

One time I saw someone had a whole season on 1 dvd. Reason was they recoded and used the 352 X 480 res feature in dvdrebuilder. It looks ok on older tv's but not on what you are watching it on. Since you are storing on a external HD why not make them into avi's or mkv files and save some space.

well i want them to look exactly like the DVD's i own.. would putting them to avi reduce quality at all? and what woul di use? and how much space would i save using AVI?

[hech54]

so here's what i did...

inserted the season 1 disc one

drag over title 2 0:22.50 (754mb) over to the left side edited the ending time to make the size a little smaller (got rid of credits) now =654mb single file..
then clicked back up and saved it to a specific folder. Do i need all those other files? or can i delet them and keep the main video (654mb file)

Also when i try and do the next title 3... and save it to the same location DVDshrink gives a warning telling me that files exist and need to be deleted in order for me to continue.. is there a way around this or i need to save to a diff location every single time?

Also am i doing it right?

Just take the biggest one....rename it something like 001.VOB...move it to a new folder...delete the first folder DVDShrink gave you....do it again with the next episode.

[yetti12]

so here's what i did...

inserted the season 1 disc one

drag over title 2 0:22.50 (754mb) over to the left side edited the ending time to make the size a little smaller (got rid of credits) now =654mb single file..
then clicked back up and saved it to a specific folder. Do i need all those other files? or can i delet them and keep the main video (654mb file)

Also when i try and do the next title 3... and save it to the same location DVDshrink gives a warning telling me that files exist and need to be deleted in order for me to continue.. is there a way around this or i need to save to a diff location every single time?

Also am i doing it right?

Just take the biggest one....rename it something like 001.VOB...move it to a new folder...delete the first folder DVDShrink gave you....do it again with the next episode.

Alright thanks Hech54!

Also if i wanted to further shrink the size of each epiosde would that kill the quality? like i notice that some guys online have HDTV files that are like 175mb but are still great quality on LCD tvs...

what would u recommend program wise and format wise? only if this does not kill the quality hoepfully

but my steps above were they right?

[hech54]

Compressing them further WILL lessen the quality...but for the best "compression vs. quality" it's H264...hands down. I use WinFF - MPEG4 - MPEG4 - H264 Video(high quality or very high quality). You do realize that these new, compressed "files" you want to create can no longer be played on your DVD player right?

[yetti12]

Compressing them further WILL lessen the quality...but for the best "compression vs. quality" it's H264...hands down. I use WinFF - MPEG4 - MPEG4 - H264 Video(high quality or very high quality). You do realize that these new, compressed "files" you want to create can no longer be played on your DVD player right?

basically i would like if possible to convert this files to a small size but not kill the quality... that program you use is it complicated? like handbrake to me was too much lol and i wasnt aware of that but that fine, i just wanna have all my shows on my portable HD for later viewing and stuff... ill be using my laptop connected to my LCD via HDMI so no DVD player will be needed or another hardware

Also i have Windows 7.. i odnt think that Winff runs on there yet...

any other suggestions?

[PuzZLeR]

What is it about HandBrake that is giving you difficulty? Maybe I can help here? (Since Heck54 pretty much covered all the other bases. )

[yetti12]

What is it about HandBrake that is giving you difficulty? Maybe I can help here? (Since Heck54 pretty much covered all the other bases. )

everything! lol i dont really know how to use it..

but also dont wanna lessen the quality of my rips.. but would love to have smaller files considering i just did the steps heck54 suggested succefully copied disc1 season 1 but its 3.9GB of 6 vob files and i still have 2 discs left of season 1 ... seems like season one is gonna be huge

[PuzZLeR]

Well if you know nothing at this point then the best I can do is point you to a beginner's guide so you can run some tests. Then if you have questions, we can help you.

http://trac.handbrake.fr/wiki/WindowsGuiGuide

As well, with any lossy codec, including H.264, you will not have the same quality as the original, but you can get something near-perfect if you use enough bitrate.

It's kind of like a good photocopy machine - no matter how good it is or how much quality ink you use, it will never look as good as the Source.

If I can suggest something, use "Constant Quality" in the "Video" tab with setting 64.71% RF 18 (which is CRF=18). It's only one pass and should give you the lowest bitrate for something that looks almost as good as the source.

[hech54]

Yep....Windows 7 took all the fun out of video from what I hear.

[yetti12]

Well if you know nothing at this point then the best I can do is point you to a beginner's guide so you can run some tests. Then if you have questions, we can help you.

http://trac.handbrake.fr/wiki/WindowsGuiGuide

As well, with any lossy codec, including H.264, you will not have the same quality as the original, but you can get something near-perfect if you use enough bitrate.

It's kind of like a good photocopy machine - no matter how good it is or how much quality ink you use, it will never look as good as the Source.

If I can suggest something, use "Constant Quality" in the "Video" tab with setting 64.71% RF 18 (which is CRF=18). It's only one pass and should give you the lowest bitrate for something that looks almost as good as the source.

thanks puzzler, i read the link you provided.. i'll give it a shot when i get home.. not sure i know exactly what buttons to click since theres soo many but thanks. ill keep u posted see if i can decrease the size of each file hopefully..

[yetti12]

@hech54 or pyzzler or anyone following this thread and is good and knows how i can convert my VOB files (600-700mb each) to a smaller size without killing my quality DVD source preferably...

anyway was wondering if ConvertXtoDVD is recommended anygood? EASY to you?

I wish i could just click GO and its done! lol

[craigarta]

you can reduce dvd's with dvdrebuilder and throw a few avisynth filters in the advanced features. I have used Xvid4PSP and used the x264 on a Q21 and they pretty good. Granted you can't really improve the picture of a All In The Family but you can keep decent looking.
Oddly enough some of the 352 x 480 dvds can look good if filtered correctly.

[Zetski210]

Yetti12, if you're having trouble with the episode-to-single VOB file, use DVD decrypter in IFO mode and set output to "no file splitting".