ATI AVIVO

[therock003]

I have an ATI HD3870 with AVIVO feature. My Card is this.



Besides the DVI's, there's one other connection that appears to be s-video.

On the package there's one s-video to rgb female connection and one strange video female to something.

This is what the other end looks like:



I want to capture video from my ps2 (uses a cinch yellow). What software, and what connection shall i use?

[SHS]

It dosen't function as video capture input
The AVIVO feature is diff then what the older ATI cards had which is know VIVO Don't confuse AVIVO with VIVO.
AVIVO stands for the whole Display output unit on ATI graphics cards (introduced with X1K series). This includes 10-bit per component (Dual-Link) DVI, CE-Grade Video-Out and Video decoding. AVIVO is a quality feature that includes all content displayed by the card (may it be video, 3D gaming, 2D-Desktop).
As Capturing that will be the part of Theater solutions with All In Wonders HD with TV-Tuner capabilities which also have AVIVO feature.

[therock003]

Wait i'm confused.

Can i display or capture video from external sources? If not then what'sthe use of the circular connector (actually it's not an s-video like i said)?

[jagabo]

It's an 8 pin mini DIN connector for composite, s-video, and/or component output. On some ATI cards (All In Wonder) they can be inputs too -- although I think the locations of the pins are a little different on those.

[therock003]

EDIT:Ok so the yellow one is the 8 pin mini-din but how the heck am i supposed to use it?

The card has a 7 pin plus this line connector.

[therock003]

Ok let me make things clear cause maybe i've caused some confusion.

The Card has a 7-pin input such as this one.

The package contains

a 7-pin male to RGB female
and a yellow cinch video female to 8 pin mini-DIN male .

My question is, how can i use any of these (is possible) ro input video from external source to the graphic card.

[SHS]

This card will not let you capture video from external sources end of story.
As for you yellow connector that what it should look like my 3850 has the very same number pin 8 as well.

[SHS]

The DIN can be as min 9 Pin
The 2 pins you do not see are in the below screenshot

[therock003]

This card will not let you capture video from external sources end of story.

Ok thanx this answers my question. What other ATI Card is there that allows capturing/displaying from video/svideo?

The DIN can be as min 9 Pin
The 2 pins you do not see are in the below screenshot

What's the significance of the 8-pin missing the 2nd pin from the right (2nd row), and why is it that some connections use plastic on the bottom where the two pins are located (like s-video).

[SHS]

I all ready post this look for All In Wonders HD with TV-Tuner capabilities see this page on what it look like
http://ati.amd.com/products/aiwhd/index.html

S/Video was made that way min moon ago and over the year they fig out they can add more to S/Vvideo port by add more pins.
DIN connector can host a number of input or output as in Composite, S/Video, Component and even Audio depend on the layout used keep thing small in area where there no space there even been case some where using 9/15 pin D-SUB connector.

[jagabo]

I'd recommend a separate capture device. ATI AIW cards are notorious for driver problems. And with separate capture and graphics cards you can upgrade either at any time.

[therock003]

I'd recommend a separate capture device. ATI AIW cards are notorious for driver problems. And with separate capture and graphics cards you can upgrade either at any time.

Due to the fact that my mobo is old (ABIT AX8 v2.0) and dpesnt not support second GFX maybe it would be best if i went for a seperate capture device indeed.

Are there any suggestions for such a device?

[jagabo]

What capture device you want depends on your needs. SD, HD, heavy editing and filtering, time shifting TV, ATSC (digital other the air) or QAM (digital cable) tuner, etc.

[therock003]

For now i only need a solution where i could input video/s-video on the PC. Mostly for Displaying not so much capturing, so that i can use My LCD Monitor to connect with the Playstation.

On the future i will more thoroughly though for an HD-PVR, but that's just not for now...

[jagabo]

If you don't need to capture video you're probably better off with something like this:

http://www.amazon.com/VGA-Monitor-Input-Convertor-Selector/dp/B000JCLLUW/

You will be rather restricted with pc based capture devices. Many have lag (up to a second or so) that will make games unplayable.

[SHS]

That one way of do it or Standard LCD TV set which also have video input as well just about of them have PC input for standard D-Sub 15pin some even have DVI
What he talk about is stand alone Capture like from Hauppauge in PCI or USB forum that are AVI base card like WinTV-USB and WinTV-HVR-1200 for area in Greece.

[therock003]

That one of do it or Standard LCD TV set which also have video input as well just about of them have PC input for standard D-Sub 15pin ssome even have DVI
What he talk about is standard alone Capture like from Hauppauge in PCI or USB forum that are AVI base card like WinTV-USB and WinTV-HVR-1200 for area in Greece.

Yes you're right at first i was interested exclusively on capturing, but then i considered more the option of displaying content live.

If you don't need to capture video you're probably better off with something like this:

http://www.amazon.com/VGA-Monitor-Input-Convertor-Selector/dp/B000JCLLUW/

You will be rather restricted with pc based capture devices. Many have lag (up to a second or so) that will make games unplayable.

From your experience will the quality be any good? Cause i suppose the video must go to the box and be converted to VGA and then the VGA must be converted to DVI (already have this converter) and plugged to the Monitor. Is it worth it?

I know that most HD TV's now come with all kinds of inputs but At the moment i dont plan on buying one, i'm just wondering what's the best i can do and if it's worth it in order to feed analog signal into my PC LCD.

Since my Plyastation is my primary interesthere, lets focus on that.

I already have yellow composite, s-video and SCART RGB Cables. The RGB is the BEST for CRT TV, but is there anything i can do for my particular LCD?

[jagabo]

From your experience will the quality be any good? Cause i suppose the video must go to the box and be converted to VGA and then the VGA must be converted to DVI (already have this converter) and plugged to the Monitor.

Doesn't your monitor have a VGA input? Most still do. I've never used one of those converters so I can't say what the quality is like -- compared to a typical capture card. But you would be able to use it with the computer turned off. If you're monitor doesn't have a VGA input that won't work.

Since my Plyastation is my primary interesthere, lets focus on that.

I already have yellow composite, s-video and SCART RGB Cables. The RGB is the BEST for CRT TV, but is there anything i can do for my particular LCD?

SCART RGB to VGA is outside my area of knowledge. There is such a thing as a SCART to VGA cable but I don't think most monitors can sync as low as a PAL signal.

http://www.maplin.co.uk/module.aspx?moduleno=37141

Not suitable for monitors designed solely for computer use. (The screen must support a horizontal scan rate of 15.625KHz

If your monitor has VGA input and accepts PAL scan rates it would be your cheapest and best solution.

[SHS]

Far I know of thoses VGA PC Monitor LCD AV Input Convertor Selector work well about just good any reg TV set