Copy of copy???

[yadda]

I have ripped numerous discs over the past couple but I am stumped. I have burned a copy of Clerks2 and now I need to make a copy of this copy. 2x in a row the burning process using Shrink hangs at 78%???

Ideas

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[69mako]

DVD Decryptor -> ISO Read

ImageBurn -> ISO Write

I hope it helps.
Mako

[redwudz]

That's one thing the ISO format is good for, multiple copies. Try ImgBurn. Shrink may not like running it through again. But you may have the same problem. It may be with reading your disc, not the burning part.

[mats.hogberg]

Pretty common IMO, that the backup disc can't be copied - there's "always" some read error preventing backing up a back up. Shouldn't be a problem tho, as you by definition do have the original Clerks 2 if you have a backup, and can use that for your 2nd backup.

/Mats

[69mako]

Pretty common IMO, that the backup disc can't be copied - there's "always" some read error preventing backing up a back up. Shouldn't be a problem tho, as you by definition do have the original Clerks 2 if you have a backup, and can use that for your 2nd backup.

/Mats

Are copying copies that problematic? I trade concert DVD's (non-official) all the time and never have trouble copying those DVDs. Are we just talking copies of hollywood disks?

Mako

[mats.hogberg]

I'm talking about making another copy of what I got on a DVD-R. More often than not, I get read errors in DVDDecrypter, making a 2nd generation backup impossible, even if the disk plays without problem in my DVD player. May well be because I use cheap media, and don't care for this kind of problem as long as they play OK. YMMV.

/Mats

[Capmaster]

I get read errors in DVDDecrypter, making a 2nd generation backup impossible

Even with write verify turned on when you burn the first backup?

[bevills1]

Try Nero Image Recorder to accomplish same task DVDDecrypter is supposed to achieve.

[mats.hogberg]

Even with write verify turned on when you burn the first backup?

I never use write verify. It'd just tell me I have write (or rather - read) errors which I already knew I'd get. But I also know it'll play back without errors, so I'm not bothered.

/Mats

[oldandinthe way]

mats.hogberg

Although your problems could be cheap media, it may also be your elderly DVDwriter.

Although I don't usually make more than one copy of a disk, on those occaision when I copy a copy I have no errors. And I use pretty cheap media.

[Scorpion King]

I haft to laugh.

What happened to the good old days when you would simply copy the files over onto the hdd then write them back to a new disk... Yea I know it might be a little slower than using ISO image create/burn programs, but when these faster programs fail.... duh

I'm getting old.

[mats.hogberg]

the good old days when you would simply copy the files over onto the hdd then write them back to a new disk

Good call, but in my experience, when DVDDecrypter (or other ripper) fails, a simple file copy will also fail.
...and my "problem" (which is no problem to me) may well be related to my ageing DVD writer.

/Mats

[overloaded_ide]

Well, just because a program works, does not mean it worked either!

I made a backup of Blues Brothers when I first started out years ago, capture from tape, burnt onto a princo or lead data 1x disk.
I want to make a new copy of that disk. Well it has problems I always thought was faulty on my part, one of my first but does play well exept a 1 spot.
Cant' just copy the files in windows, get an error and crash.
Can't copy in shrink, error and crash.
Put it in the 111d I just bought, says no disk!
Put it in the NEC 2500 and there it is, plays well but that one one spot skips.
Rip with Fab Decrypter today and it riped compleate though it choked alittle in a spot where it said 7hours 30 minutes to go.

LUCKY I checked the DVD before burning it again, total TRASH! Far worse than the disk itself plays. After about 1/4 way through the movie I got macro blocks, skipping, junk audio, you name it and it's bad. I deleted it. I geuss I will have to dig out the tape and capture a new copy again. Not a problem being I do have the tape, just a pain to do a 2 hr or what ever capture again and author a new disk and all that.

For now I'll wait, I should have a settop recorder today according to UPS tracking, so I'll see how that works out.

Heck, being so much music in the movie, I may just buy it on DVD anyway and backup that, I expect the DVD should have better audio than a VHS tape, if not I will be pissed as that is the only reason I would buy it agian.

[oldandinthe way]

Overloaded_ide

Your Blues Brothers experience stems from a time when there were few dissenters from the must be "bad media" explanation because there was some really sucky media. Princo or Lead Data would fall in that category. And they don;t get better with age.

[MysticE]

It also helps to have a few different/age/brands of readers/burners. For slightly damaged discs, at least, one may read it where another may choke on it. This is also were DVDDecrypter comes in handy as it will re-try, as often as you set it to, to read the disc.

[cyflyer]

Not quite clear, the burning stage hangs at 78%, or the ripping stage hangs at 78% ?
What discs are you using ? Copy of a copy should be no problem under normal circumstances.

[RowMan]

Even with write verify turned on when you burn the first backup?

I never use write verify. It'd just tell me I have write (or rather - read) errors which I already knew I'd get. But I also know it'll play back without errors, so I'm not bothered.

/Mats

I've had MUCH LESS problems with discs that I verify after burning. If I get errors the disc will most likely play OK, but will have trouble being copied. For very important material (not just ordinary movie back-ups), I make sure to burn on high quality media and get a 100% verification after the burn.

As for the original poster, try DVDFab Decrypter. It's slow on problem discs, but you may be able to recover the data with it. The program has helped me out a few times.

[Dv8ted2]

You could also try ISObuster. It can sometimes salvage damaged discs.