Ulead Video studio quetion!

[alintatoc]

I have edited one of my avi movie with ULEAD VIDEO STUDIO,I have added title,some menu to create a nice DVD.
When I want to burn with Ulead Create disc, Ulead starts to convert video title and this process takes a long long time and I don't know why.
The avi movie is 1hour and 30 minutes and it has 1.4Gb + the effects.
can somebody with experience in Ulead guide me or explain me some stuff about creating a DVD with Ulead.

[canadateck]

Reason why it's taking so long is it's converting from AVI to MPG. encoding is what takes so long.

Hope this helps.

[alintatoc]

Reason why it's taking so long is it's converting from AVI to MPG. encoding is what takes so long.

Hope this helps.

Do you know how long it might take?
Because If I was trying to make the same think with the DV file,which has 17Gb I think the process would have been longer.What do you think?

[canadateck]

It all depends on the speed of your computer, any effects you may have added to the file, what program you're using.

[alintatoc]

It all depends on the speed of your computer, any effects you may have added to the file, what program you're using.

The computer it's a Pentium4,2.66Ghz.
Like I said I am using Ulead Video Studio and I added some simple effect,like title to each chapter...not so complicated effects.
Which is the easiest way to edit and burn to the dvd?
After the software is going to finish converting video title is it going to be something more?

[canadateck]

I do all my editing in Sony Vegas, it would usually take me an hour to two hours to render a 13 to 16 gigabyte AVI.

What kind of file are you working with? How long is it taking?

[alintatoc]

I do all my editing in Sony Vegas, it would usually take me an hour to two hours to render a 13 to 16 gigabyte AVI.

What kind of file are you working with? How long is it taking?

My original file has 17gb (DV),but I've transformed it to 1.4Gb (AVI) with virtualdub.
After I've transformed it into 1.4gb avi, I've edited the 1.4Gb avi with Ulead Video studio,added some titles and menu.
And after that "burn" to DVD.

[anbidan]

I use Ulead Video Studio 8. First ot all, I think that the important part is not if your avi is 14 GB o just 1.4 GB, the main thing is the lenght of the movie, a file of 1.4 Gb containig a movie that is 1 and half hour will take more time to render than a file that is 14 GB but the movie length is only 1 hour. It's a "codec thing" how much space your video takes on the disk.

Recently I've rendered two dv-avis (I've joined them to make one video: I've filmed the 40 year birthday of a friend of mine and made a DVD to him), the total was about 18 Gb the two avis together. And I joined and cut the both movies to get about 1 hour 10 mins of video, with a lot of transitions and effects at the beginning and the end of the video. I've encoded to MPEG-2, bitrate 7000, and tried (just to see what happens) 2 pass encode, and 1 pass encode. 2 pass encode took about 6 hours to render, and 1 pass encode about the half (just for the record, I haven't found much difference between 1 pass and 2 pass encode, the original video was of a great quality, and 2 pass encode didn't aport any better, so in my case, I preferred to save time and make 1 pass video encode).

Also, I have to say that my camcorder is PAL and in the render process I converted to NTSC because in Argentina (it's PAL land) all DVDs, commercial or not, are NTSC, it's rare, ain't it?, well I mention that because it might take longer to render than if you dont change from one standard to the other in the render process.

I have a 2.53 Ghz Pentium 4 with 768 Mb of Ram and only AVG antivirus running in the background. Well, hope this helps, any question just do it and I'll be happy to help. Have a happy new year.

[canadateck]

anbidan is right it matters how long the video is. But even the most simple effects can add a significant amount of time to your rendering process.

[anbidan]

Just one more thing that I've just seen¨: You said that you transformed your 17 Gb DV to a 1.5 Gb (or something) AVI, DONT DO THAT! you are loosing video quality. You should edit your DV with Ulead Video Studio directly and render to MPEG-2 from there. When you pass from one format to another, you are loosing video quality!.

[alintatoc]

anbidan is right it matters how long the video is. But even the most simple effects can add a significant amount of time to your rendering process.

Thank you very much for the complex aswer.
My movie is 1hour and 28minutes.
Anbidan maybe you can tell me more about Ulead because I like the software and I would like to know more about it.
Is Ulead the best tool for editing movies and trasnform them to DVD?
Happy new year to you.

Do you say that I should work with the 17Gb movie and add effect on it?
I've transformed the 17gb with virtualdub and the quality is good.

The process in this moment with the 1.4gb movie is : in 2 hours = 47% (converting video title) and the the total progress is 2% in 2 hours!

[anbidan]

First, yes, you better work with the 17 Gb movie, you might not notice it on your computer's monitor, but when you take your DVD to your standalone DVD on the TV, you will notice the loss of quality. Dont be scare about damaging your original movie, because you are not actually altering it (if that's the case), and if you are shrinking your 17 Gb file because you don't have enough disk space, well, if you can, try to clean up your disk so you can work with your original file.

Regarding of the time of your rendering process, it's all right, don't be intimidated with that 2% of total process, when the render process finishes (the one that is 47% afther 2 hours), that 2% will rice to a 60% or something like that, and when it finishes burning your DVD will be 100%, that grand total of 2% don't give you no idea about how long it will take. At this point is easy to calculate how long it will take for your actual task: Another 2 hours for the rendering, plus the time that it takes to burn your DVD, if your DVD writer is 4x, think that it will be about 15 minutes, if it's 8x about 7 o 8 minutes. So in another 2 and half hours you will be done.

I see that you've choosed the option of "CREATE DISK" in the CREATE tab, I use to choose "CREATE VIDEO FILE" so I can convert to NTSC and I can choose the bitrate I want, after I got my video file, I use DVD-Lab to create the DVD. If you are doing a simple DVD without complex menus and things, what you are doing is much easyer that what I do and you should get a good DVD, the only thing that you are doing wrong (for my point of view) is that conversion from DV-AVI to DIVX or XVID or what codec you choose, you are REALLY loosing quality.

[alintatoc]

First, yes, you better work with the 17 Gb movie, you might not notice it on your computer's monitor, but when you take your DVD to your standalone DVD on the TV, you will notice the loss of quality. Dont be scare about damaging your original movie, because you are not actually altering it (if that's the case), and if you are shrinking your 17 Gb file because you don't have enough disk space, well, if you can, try to clean up your disk so you can work with your original file.

Regarding of the time of your rendering process, it's all right, don't be intimidated with that 2% of total process, when the render process finishes (the one that is 47% afther 2 hours), that 2% will rice to a 60% or something like that, and when it finishes burning your DVD will be 100%, that grand total of 2% don't give you no idea about how long it will take. At this point is easy to calculate how long it will take for your actual task: Another 2 hours for the rendering, plus the time that it takes to burn your DVD, if your DVD writer is 4x, think that it will be about 15 minutes, if it's 8x about 7 o 8 minutes. So in another 2 and half hours you will be done.

I see that you've choosed the option of "CREATE DISK" in the CREATE tab, I use to choose "CREATE VIDEO FILE" so I can convert to NTSC and I can choose the bitrate I want, after I got my video file, I use DVD-Lab to create the DVD. If you are doing a simple DVD without complex menus and things, what you are doing is much easyer that what I do and you should get a good DVD, the only thing that you are doing wrong (for my point of view) is that conversion from DV-AVI to DIVX or XVID or what codec you choose, you are REALLY loosing quality.

This is a good explanation. Thank you very very much for all the informations. I will wait to see the results and after that I will post and say to you if the dvd it's working.
DO YOU THINK that is the same time if I work with the 17gb dv file?

[anbidan]

I cannot assure you but I think it might take less time because DV-AVI is not compressed (as I've read, not much, just a little), I think (I might be wrong on this) that it might take more time to compress something already compressed (you are passing from your compressed AVI to MPEG-2 that is another compressed format) than to compress something that is not compressed. I guess it will take less time.

When you are finished, please make me a favor and let me know how is working your DVD and how is the video quality you got with your 1.5 Gb compressed AVI, but not in the computer, but in a stand alone DVD and TV set. I suggest you to do the very same that you did with your 1.5 Gb file but with the 17 Gb one and compare the results, I'm shure you'll see the diference.

Greetings

[alintatoc]

I cannot assure you but I think it might take less time because DV-AVI is not compressed (as I've read, not much, just a little), I think (I might be wrong on this) that it might take more time to compress something already compressed (you are passing from your compressed AVI to MPEG-2 that is another compressed format) than to compress something that is not compressed. I guess it will take less time.

When you are finished, please make me a favor and let me know how is working your DVD and how is the video quality you got with your 1.5 Gb compressed AVI, but not in the computer, but in a stand alone DVD and TV set. I suggest you to do the very same that you did with your 1.5 Gb file but with the 17 Gb one and compare the results, I'm shure you'll see the diference.

Greetings

After I will see the results with this 1.4gb movie I will sure try doing the same thing with the 17gb movie because I am curious too.
I like very much Ulead Video Studio because you can add many cool effect to the movies that you are editing.
I write after the dvd is burned
Best regards!