Nero updated to 5.5.10.20

[MOVIEGEEK]

I hope this isn't an April Fool's joke and it actually fixes something.
www.nero.com
www.ahead.de

[defense]

unreal...what's up with just 5.6? all that 5.5.5.5.5.20 crap is a joke..just like Infero's software! I guess they know they'll need millions of numbers for reserved space for their countless array of bugs.

[SaSi]

Got fed up with Nero and their constant update of bugs. Since November, they don't seem able to correct their program. Version 5.5.9.14 worked perfectly with 1x and 1x DVD-Rs but had problems with DVD+Rs. Since then not one update (have got the whole lot) doesn't seem to work properly.

I thought it was my SONY recorder to blame, but then I used Veritas RecordNOW DX (which incidentally is free to SONY owners) and recording was removed from the list of problems.

Hey, RecordNow DX even started recording on a 2x TDK at 4x, did so for 3-4 minutes, then went back to lower speed (presumably 2x) and then continued to higher than that. A full DVD (4.3Gb) was finished in 22 minutes - instead of the normal 32 minutes Nero would do (when it did) with the 2x media.

[defense]

this could actually start a war with all of the Nero supporters..but mainly those are the ones who "paid" for their bug-laiden Infero Joke of software. I can write endlessly on the problems and bugs about Nero, but I already have, so I'll leave it here. One thing I will say though is RecordNow Max is so superior to Infero it isn't even funny.

Actually it is funny...but one thing I still think is amazing among the many with RNM is that I had some Verbatim DVD+R disks which had some problems on "some" of them towards the ends of the disks. I personally think that is why those DVD+R's are so damn cheap right now from Verbatim..i'm sure they know about it. Best buy has 100 of the DVD+R's at 2.4x i'm referring to for ONLY $99! While Verbatim's slower speed DVD-R's at a max of 2x are more then twice that amount.


Anyway, what is interesting is that when I noticed the ending chapters skipping...I did many tests and it initially appeared to be Nero causing "this" particular problem because when I burned the SAME movie again using RNM on the same Verbatim batch, the ending chapters played flawlessly!

Then about two weeks later I noticed the same thing using RNM, but after more tests, this "ending chapter" freeze issue was MUCH more common with NERO then it was with RNM. RNM was actually handling these bad disks almost flawlessly, much better then Nero. Since then, I have been using RNM ONLY, and I will ONLY continue to use RNM, because I would have to be ignorant as hell to even remotely consider another burning program when this one works perfectly!

[racer-x]

I don't know your situations, but I have burned many disks with Nero with no problems what so ever. Nero is my main burning software for DVDs and CDs. The only exception is burning DVDs I create out of home movies. For that I use Ulead DVD workshop.

[SaSi]

I actually paid for Nero, a while back ago. I got it with a Plextor recorder and when I swapped that for a Yamaha, it did not work with it. So I upgraded to the full retail version. I have been using it for 2-3 years now, having replaced WinOnCD. I have never had any problems with Nero before and that is why I scrapped RecordNow that I got with the SONY and started using Nero.

I appreciate the free upgrades to users (have been upgrading every once in a while, just to freshen features and version). And with the SONY, I initial had no problems. The first recordings I did were on DVD+RW (and a few on DVD-RW). I never had any problems with re-writables. However, when it was time I knew what to record and started using -/+R media, that's when problems started. Every single batch of media behaves differently. I initially got a pack of 10 Creation DVD-Rs and the first 6-7 were recorded without any trouble. Then, before the Creation were finished, I got 4 Princos. The drive would not recognise them. I upgraded the f/w to 1.0g (and perhaps that has something to do with the troubles) and Nero recognized the media as 1x. Couldn't record though. I downloaded the 5.5.10.0 version and it could record on them. But the DVDs were unplayable on the standalone. That version just was unable to record DVD-Video.

Then, I read some posts suggesting to use 5.5.9.17. Didn't have that, had only 5.5.9.14 and tried it, and The Princos could be written (in simulation mode), at x1. The Creations were written (now) at 2x. Then I was told version 5.5.10.7b was out, solving the problems. Downloaded it, and the creations could not be written anymore.

Then got some no-name media that turned out to be 2x. All were recorded succesfully, although some of them with File system settings that make them unplayable to some DVD players. (Sniff). Then I got 20 TDK 2x media, and were recorded ok. For that reason I got another batch of 20 TDK media and although I can record them, after Lead-Out, the drive led stops flashing and Nero keeps on counting. I left the first count until the morning. After a reboot, the drive was unlocked, got the disk out and tested it. It was fine. Now I had to reboot my PC everytime I burned a DVD. Then tried RecordNow DX and it works. Tried 3 different media already and it works. It even tried recording one of the 2x TDKs at 4x (for a while) slowed down to 2x and overall took 21 minutes or so to record. And I don' have to reboot.

To conclude: I like(ed) the Nero program. However, there is something terribly wrong in their s/w development department lately that allows garbage versions and incompatibilities. That is, unless someone convinces me that the NERO labs don't have a SONY DRU500A recorder and have not tested TDK 2x media

If their program becomes stable again, I might as well use it. Until then, however, I don't intend to spend real money for wasted media and waste my time just because the s/w developers at Nero don't do proper testing.

And to avoid any missunderstandings, I've been writting programs for more than 15 years now, so I know the "difficulties" and "carelessness" that sometimes goes with this "witchcraft".

[rattlebone]

Remember that an update may just be for new recorder support. An update does not have to be a bugfix.

I have not seen any issues burning video or data DVD's with Nero. I have used v5.5.10.7b and v5.5.10.14 since purchasing my Sony DRU-500A.

[MOVIEGEEK]

If your drive isn't recognized by Nero then you need CDROM.CFG and copy it to C:\Programs\Ahead\Nero.
http://www.nero.com/en/index.html#c1023694368810

[ghoster]

i having been using nero for everything and not a problem one. i even use it for ripping audio cds. burned over 100 dvds and not one coaster. they play fine in both dvd players. i just don't get it. why are people haveing problems with nero?

[SaSi]

Remember that an update may just be for new recorder support. An update does not have to be a bugfix.

I have not seen any issues burning video or data DVD's with Nero. I have used v5.5.10.7b and v5.5.10.14 since purchasing my Sony DRU-500A.

Well, I could not resist. I downloaded version 5.5.10.20 from nero. Tried it. Simulation was succesful and opted for a burn. 30 minutes later, my coaster was ready!!!

Unable to perform Disk At once operation. Illegal medium!!!

Well, we are improving. I've had this a long time ago and had to scrap a few DVD-Rs and buy new ones, different brand (TDK) to get rid of this message. Now Nero doesn't like the TDKs as well.

It's obvious that different laws apply at NeroLand. According to them, SONY cannot make proper DVD Burners and TDK cannot produce proper DVD-R media. Well, thank GOD programs like RecordNow, DVDWorkshop, even DVDDecrypter haven't heard of these laws that make TDK DVD-R media outlawed and SONY recorders incompatible.

To answer some other questions, some people may be having problems with Nero depending on what media they use. My first 20-30 burns with Nero were succesful and I, myself was wondering what on earth are those people complaining about for Nero. Then I got hit by the brick myself. Even testing a brand of media and sticking to it doesn't seem to solve the problem. I tried TDK 2x, it worked, i sticked to it (despite the $3.5 price tag), worked ok for the first 20, they ran out, bought a different batch (it appears), Nero is doing it's tricks again.

I will not be induldged to another download from the nero site again.

[andydd]

I have used Nero for as long as I can remember..back in the days when it only supported about 3 CD writers. I still use it and have no problems at all wether Im writing to CD or DVD....it makes DVDs fine and they play on all my standalones...PS2, Afreey and Panasonic recorder so all the people bitching about it..JUST MAYBE it isnt Nero thats at fault !

I even had no probs back when they first introduced DVD burning and everyone was going mad coz all they made were coasters..maybe im just lucky !

[LSchafroth]

One thing I have noticed is everyone I've helped out that had Nero problems, had other issues at hand.

I have YET to help someone with Nero problems that were an actual Nero issue. It's usually a ASPI issue or something they screwed up on their Windows installation.

You hear all the people complain about Windows all the time. I've used windows since version 2. My installations have always been rock solid and I've never had a buggy windows installation that was caused by software or windows. the instability issues I've had were cheap hardware products. I quick using the cheap stuff for that reason.

There are some tweaks that need to be done to make windows great and a lot of maintenance and the ability to keep your install clean to make a stable platform.

Lannie

PS Wow....where did all that spewing come from?

[defense]

I have YET to help someone with Nero problems that were an actual Nero issue. It's usually a ASPI issue or something they screwed up on their Windows installation.

Who the hell are you helping with NERO...YOUR GRANDMA? :biglaugha: INFERO SUXXXXXXXX

[Faustus]

For a name like defense you sure are on the offense alot. Calm down man... this isn't an epen*s contest. Some people like NERO it has alot of options that are easy to get to and we've had no problems with it. Other dont like it, they've had problems and like record now max better.

That it, end of story, its not a question of one product sucking, even the best of programs can have a hard time now and again. Personally I've always like Neros way of small update releases, makes me feel like they are working for my money.

[defense]

For a name like defense you sure are on the offense alot. Calm down man... this isn't an epen*s contest.

What the hell is an "epens" contest? Funny how people don't know the difference between "DEFENSE" and "DEFENSIVE." Two completely different words. Funny how when someone disagrees with a post though...not just from me,...but from others...it's considered "defensive."

As far as being on the "OFFENSIVE" that isn't the case at all. I don't doubt that some people have had success with Nero. I've posted plenty of times that I've never had an issue with Nero when burning audio cd's, and I think it's great for that, however, I don't use it for anything anymore because of its issues with burning DVDR's. I get a good laugh out of the continuous updates Nero has, and the versions which are an endless array of numbers such as this one.

Really, when you think about it, it comes down to simple savvy. Why would ANY company continue to have update after update and not even introduce new functions in their software..not even visuals such as the GUI. Nero continues to update their software, and have yet to prove stability with their updates or software. If this bug-laiden program works for you or others, then great...but all you have to do is a search on Nero and you'll see at LEAST 20 posts from different people with their frustrations with Nero, mainly when burning DVDR's.

[Faustus]

Who the hell are you helping with NERO...YOUR GRANDMA? INFERO SUXXXXXXXX

...and I'll just leave that at that.

As far as Nero doing endless updates without adding anything new, perhaps you should check their version history. Ahead software like to take versions one step at a time, but they do add things to the program along the way. The GUI is the same after all this time for one reason: It works while allowing easy access to advanced features.

[defense]

@ Flaystus, your cool in my book man...so if you feel like i'm being defensive.. then that's on you. As far as that comment...I made that comment for a reason...look at the post. Someone comes on here and says that they have "yet" to help a person with "NERO" when it was an actual "NERO" issue? lol....so they are some type of Technical support Guru or a Tech support Guru from Ahead?

Even if EITHER or BOTH were true, to say that they have helped people but NEVER has an issue been with NERO when it is known NERO has issues...well...I'll just leave it there.

I won't bother responding to anymore Nero posts because I've said enough as well as others to allow newbies to make their own decisions. This isn't the only "hot" topic though...DVD2ONE was very hot as well...that's why I don't bother responding to those either...because ONE negative "FACTUAL" post will bring all sorts of garbage posts in response.

There is a difference between Bashing and "FACTS."

[Faustus]

He saying that he's helped people with supposed Nero problem and managed to straighten them all out everytime he's tried. Made since to me as I have setup now 3 personal friends with Nero for DVd burning and none of them have problem either after i showed them not to use the DVD-Video fuction as it was known to be broken, I understand its suppose to be fixed now, but I haven't bothered to test it since my burner STILL isn't back from Pioneeer.

I have no personal problem with you either Defence, but sometime you might want to bring things down a knotch.

[defense]

I hear what you're saying, but if you look at the integrity of that post...there is no integrity. They made it a point to capitalize the word "YET" as if they have helped HUNDREDS, if not THOUSANDS of people with a NERO issue. The way that statement is written, they aren't talking about helping one or two friends out.

If someone has helped that many people with NERO and it has "NEVER" been a NERO issue...well....c'mon...."NEVER?" You mentioned that "DVD VIDEO option in NERO...funny that it was fine with the earlier versions..but it was one of the Nero infamous "upgrades" caused issues with the DVD VIDEO option. At any rate...I feel what you're sayin'...and I agree....by using the word "sucks" or "SUXXX" even though facts are presented...it can make people hostile...so i'll refrain from that....

however, as I said, I've read plenty of posts which are a simple argument against certain software, such as NERO, DVD2ONE, IC7, etc...and because one person doesn't want to hear the facts, they respond with their own defensive comments and then try to turn the tables.

It's amazing how many people DON'T want to hear ANY negatives about a product they use..it's like they want to believe there are ZERO issues and they've NEVER had a problem and NEVER will because there software is flawless....that's even crazier when the facts state otherwise.

The DVD2ONE thread takes the cake on that...people test "ONE" movie, and simply scan through that "ONE" movie without even watching that "ONE" movie fully...and all of a sudden countless posts are praising DVD2ONE. Over the last month or so, I've seen many more go the other way on DVD2ONE....and I know there would be even MORE negative feedback on DVD2ONE but people who praised it early on are too embarrassed to come back and say..boy was I wrong.

I wish I could say EVERYTHING I used..software/hardware was PERFECT and FLAWLESS and there are NEVER any issues...but unfortunately that isn't the case.

[Faustus]

Here is the mantra I live by, it helps alot, so I think more should. "All software is inherently broken."

Ok maybe not Hello world but just about everything else.

[hotwings]

Nero works fine with sony dvd writers since I have one, it also works with a variety of dvdr/+r media. To say that the nero programmers somehow didn't bother to work in sony and tdk support is erroneous. Maybe unique to a particular situation, but erroneous on the whole.

[Thorn]

"All software is inherently broken."

The problem is consumer and business expectations. You can't expect software to be cheap, well made, and available immediately. As they always say, pick any two... The people have spoken. They want it now, and they want it cheap. No one said anything about it working correctly (except to bitch about it).