Dvd ripping instead of encoding

[Roland187]

When i first started doing dvd video, i would encode the movies first using dvdx 1.8,then to 2.0 when it came out. THen i would author my svcd format to dvd using Sonic dvdit PE! The quality is good using this method, but when i realized that i can rip the main movie of a dvd and create ifo's for it or older movies i can copy the whole movie with menu's and chapters to a dvd-r or rw at the same original quality and subtitles and audio streams in most cases, i figure why go back to that old method of encoding? I read the new topics on the site frequent and i see alot of topics having to do with encoding with TMPEg, and dvd2vcd etc. If you have a dvd burner, i would like to know what advantage there is to encoding as opposed to ripping and recording which regularly takes me less than 2 hours as opposed to encoding with dvdx(which by the way, i think is the best encoder, took me no more than 5 hours for an average 120-130 min movie in svcd mode).

[12 gage]

This sounds like a great idea, do you have a guide. It's sounds like I have about the same equipment as you (Sonic dvdit). If you can tell me how to do I would definitly change my style.

[TeeeRex]

The logic behind 'what to do' is relatively straightforward as follows -

1. Can the DVD fit onto a DVD-R with no changes (< 4.3 Gbyte) ?

Yes - Simply, rip the WHOLE DVD, burn.

2. Can the Movie fit onto a DVD-R if you strip the menu's and extras ?

Yes - Rip just the movie, recreate the ifo's with ifoedit and burn.

3. Can the movie fit onto a DVD-R with the extra's stripped completely AND the extra audio streams/subs etc stripped from the main movie ?

Yes - Rip the movie, delete the extras,strip the unwanted streams,recreate the ifo and burn.

If still NO, then there is only one option left (to fit onto one DVD-R that is) and that is re-encode to get the bitrate down.

So finally, rip the movie, delete the extra's,strip the unwanted streams, re-encode the Vob's (<4.3 Gbyte), recreate the IFO's and burn.

There you go - a very simple way of looking at things !!

Cheers,

TeeeRex

[Timoleon]

Well done, TeeeRex!!

About as concise and clear an explanation as I've heard so far

[rufus1995]

yahoooooooo for teerex, thanks for the info , i was getting tired of the other way, to much hassle

[Roland187]

Teerex got it right! THat is the quickest and easiest way to do it. But the only issue i have is compatibility with standalones. Using Nero 5.9.17 dvd video, plays in about 8 of 10 players. Doing the encoding process, seemed to work in all players including the one's that wouldn't play the Nero burned one's. BUt as long as it works in mine i don't care.

I tried using record now max, always get error messages.
DVD decrypter is another way of burning, in ISO image format. Works good!

[curryman]

so is it possible to copy dvd9 to 1 dvdr and still be able to keep menu at beginning and still be able to keep original chapter points accessed from main menu,not bothered about subs and extras
the way i do it at the moment is by ripping movie then rip smallest vob which 9 times out of ten is the menu i then rencode with tsmpng and use workshop to remake chapters roughly where the originals were and use ripped menu as the first play then where it says play on menu i place a text space over it and it looks like it is highlited.
long drawn out process and in the back of my mind i know it's not the real thing

[Roland187]

To copy DVD9 usually you can split the movie between chapters and recreate the ifo files files using ifoedit. and copy to 2 dvd's keeping the subtitles and extra languages.