Movie 144 min too much for 1 dvd?

[Marco33]

I have a movie I'd like to back up (Major crack in the center forming) I figure just the movie. No trailers and stuff. Anyway the movie is 144 min long, that's almost 2 and one half hours long. Bit rate is down to 3854. Any feedback about a movie that long at that rate on one disk?

[kitty]

I have found the VCDhelp bitrate calc at http://www.vcdhelp.com/calc.htm to be good for DVD. I would make sure the audio on the rip is AC3 or MPEG audio to keep the video bitrate as high as you can. Some inferior burning programs reencode audio to PCM or uncompressed PCM (eeeew) which robs bitrate.

In the 3000's should fit fine - the quality may not be that of the original but not far off.

[Marco33]

AC3 all the way. I did a movie at 136 min and it looked fine. Just wanted to double check.

Thanks

[flaninacupboard]

I did lord of the rings onto one disc, this had an average bitrate of 3198, and there are literally two scenes which look "iffy" on our 42" TV and the rest of the movie looks great. i used cinema craft encoder with 2 passes, throughly reccomended!

[Marco33]

Just did a re-encode

Setting for Bitrate Calc
Video min 144 min
Audio rate 384
CD's 1 - 4.37 gig DVD

Average bit rate 3854

After encoding I was left with a 3 gig file leavin a whole gig to work with.

How do I get it closer to 4 gigs?

Using rempeg.

[Marco33]

huh, for some reason only a portion of the movie 1hr 47 min was ripped. That's why.

Back to the drawing board.

[Marco33]

Ripped it again. Still only ripped only a portion.

Using smart ripper.
Angle 1
With all chapters & cells selected

Gonna try dycrypter

[Will Hay]

TMPGEnc Plus has a facility to set the bitrate to fit the disk capacity.
I had a 100min movie at something like (I forget exactly) 3500kbs/sec bt only 81% of the disk capacity. My stretching out to 95% increased my quality.

[Marco33]

OK, what happend was smart ripper only ripped about 4gigs worth of movie. A little over that. NOW, dycryter didn't finish ripping saying " not enough room to write to disk" I think this has to do with XP not being able to handle a 4+ gig file. The total file (Movie)= about 6 gigs.

[Brewdogg11]

All,
I have successfully re-encoded Traffic, Boiler Room, and Minority Report which are all too big after cutting out extra stuff. I used DVD-Decryptor to rip Vob's, then IFO_Edit to cut out extras. After doing this the contents are still greater than 4.7 GB, so I used DVD2AVI to create a m2v file and audio file. Imported this into TMPGENC and made a compliant MPG2 file which was around 4.2 GB. Last, I used DAZZLE COMPLETE to divide the MPG2 file into vobs and ifos and also create menus for it. I have watched a lot of movies and have not noticed any quality difference in any of these. I have a sony dvd player (315) model I just bought for $100.00 and it plays everything perfect.

The drawback using this method is it does take some time. In the long run its worth it. I'm working on Spy Game now, then Lord of the Rings next.

[Marco33]

I can only get TMPEGNC to accept ac3 files (sound) when encoding. If I use a wav I get sync problems. I'm starting to think DVDXCOPY seems to be the way to go. You have to use two disk but, it's still cost effective and it's a whole lot easier.

[kab01nk]

I'm new to all of this. I've had great success using the guide here on DVD2SVCD, but changing it for DVD. I haven't tried DVD2DVD-R, but it sounds like it does the same thing. I encode it down to a good size, and then use DVD2AVI to extract the menus. I then use TMPGEnc to cut them up, and use DVD Maestro to compile it all. My first 2 I messed up the menus. But now I think I have it, and the quality is pretty sweet.

Thanks to all for their comments, even tho they were never directed to me personally. It has helped ALOT.

[thxkid]

easiest way is DVDxCOPy but most of the time its 2 discs, no way.

Then use DVD2DVDR 1.3.4, yes, you can do the same thing manually, but this does everything automatically with just a couple setting clicks of icons, click go and will rip and even re-encode for you if needed.