how do I fit a 6Gb .m2v file on a DVD-r?

[earlygrace]

How do you recompress it so that it will fit along with the audio file onto DVD-r? Without using a PC?

Please give details aps and of setting you use

[itmandar]

use mediapipe

[itmandar]

the first thing you need is a single demuxed M2V file (not divided in chapter or vobu or other splitting mehtods)

open mediapipe

- file browser -> select the file
- file streamer
- mpeg decoder -> then open inspector window and control if you can see the movie corrrectly otherwise you must use ffmpeg (but dvdsp don't likes ffmpeg mpeg2)
-mpeg encoder -> configure (it's easier if you use generate arguments)

the most important thing to do is set the bitrate (i suggest you calculate it with MrBitButget)


when finished click start on mediapipe main window.

note to author dvd use dvdsp or sizzle then toast to burn

you don't need a pc..

[earlygrace]

I have tried using mediapipe several time with differnet movies and always get the same result , what the hell am I doing wrong?

I re-encode the .m2v to a lower bitrate like this:

• start mediapipe
• "set destination" to folder where I want the output file saved
• add pipe "file browser" and select the 6gb m2v file I want to convert
• add pipe "file streamer"
• add pipe "MPEG decoder"
• add pipe "color conversion"
• add pipe "MPEG encoder" and use the configure button to set the attributes.
• in attributes I click on the "generate arguments" button. set attributes to:
NTSC Video, 16:9, new bitrate of say 3800.
• close out this window and start the conversion
• and wait about 8 to 10 hours until it's done.

• I end up with a new m2v file that is now say 2.8 Gb
• then I import the new m2v file and audio file into DVDSP.

Now here is where the problem starts, the video seems to run faster then it should, even though it is 30fps, so the Sync starts out fairly close but as the movie progresses the sync get farther and farther out, untill the end where the video part of the movie is over but the audio is only 3/4 of the way through. I am obviosly doing something wrong or setting something up incorretly.

[itmandar]

i never encountered that issues i'm eurpoean , on pal systems mediapipe and dvdsp work fine

-first use a higher bitrate to preserve quality e.g. on a 120 min movie 5000 should be better (use USER for custom bitrate)

i dont know why the framerate is so high (i'm a newbie)

- i use osex for extraction, what do you use?
- try "native film" on framerate menu
- check no dummy svcd data option
- if there's no way to correct this try using framerate changer in mediapipe

[ghoster]

well you could encode it using TMPGEnc but you will have to convert it useing mpeg tools by going to multiplex. after ther encode it using video only and it will then make a smaller m2v file. now you can author it with ifoedit to make dvd files and now you can burn the file with nero.......

[earlygrace]

is it just me or are all pc users as dumb as this guy above? did i not say that I want to do this all on a mac.

[Lynx_TWO]

There is a very simple explanation AND a simple solution!

The original video on a dvd is actually recorded at 23.976 FPS (frames per second). To make the MPEG work on the DVD player, flags are inserted that tell the player to double some of the frames to reproduce 30 (actually 29.97) FPS.

What you have to do is process your finished MPEG2 through a little program called MPEG Telecine. It will produce a 3:2 pulldown of your 30 FPS MPEG2 video file, making it play back at the proper framerate of 23.976 FPS. Best of all the process only takes about two minutes.

You can find the program here: http://homepage.mac.com/DVD_SP_Helper/Download/Download.html

The OSX version is $30 but the OS9 version is free!

[itmandar]

have you ever used FFmpeg?

try it, maybe the solution for this case...

i have aspect ratio problems (i can't set 16:9 so the image get stretched) and in dvdsp can't set markers, but ffmpeg works.

[pogue1000]

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[harrymj3]

earlygrace,
that evil pc user was only trying to help you. he may have been "dumb" for not knowing what you ment when you said "without using a pc" but he was smart enough to know how to run his own machine.
harrymj3

[earlygrace]

Thanks Lynx_TWO, that answer seems to make to most sence, I will have to try that and let you know if it fixes my problem.

[bilestyle]

earlygrace,
that evil pc user was only trying to help you. he may have been "dumb" for not knowing what you ment when you said "without using a pc" but he was smart enough to know how to run his own machine.
harrymj3

wow, he is smart enough to use his own machine.. what an accomplishment. (i'm sorry that is really something i couldn't resist responding to ) i mean wow, okay who careS??????? maybe they were tryin to help but reading what forum you are in, AND the entire post of the person you are responding to isnt a difficult thing to ask, if you aren't smart enough to know what "without a pc" means, then you don't deserve to own a computer.

[incredible]

I just made a Guide to explain exactly this process, but for now its in german and a english version will follow. Maybe you can see the configuration in the snapshot screens in the Site...

http://homepage.mac.com/dvd_r_project/

Hope it helps

Markus

[earlygrace]

Yes I guide like this is great, it would be better in english but this is a start. Is this for Pal or NTSC format?

[incredible]

This is PAL & NTSC. You can see the explanation at the right side of the Scaler & Framerate Changer to obtain a NTSC Video Format ...

Greetings
Markus

[bilestyle]

markus if you have never tried doing what you are tryin (or what i assume you are tryin) with NTSC source files than DONT say its a NTSC guide.. i already know mediapipe in and out pretty well, and from what i have discerened with NTSC source it CANNOT currently be used to rip ALL NTSC w/o any sync issues (yet, im sure it will be fixed with the much anticpated 0.9)- - so anyone reading that guide when made for english be wary of this fact.-- not to take away from mediapipe, its an EXCELLENT program with mass potential.


edit---

after i took a look at a rough translation (god i love sherlock) of this page in english (it translated all the words i needed to get a understanding of the process at hand)

the process will work fine for PAL source as i expected, but unfortunately for those of us who use NTSC we arent so lucky to have a process that simple always consistently work.

[gNOMEintheRedHat]

earlygrace,

He was smart enough to NOT buy a Mac to begin with.

Sorry, sorry, couldn't resist....

I was an EARLY "Switcher"

My first computer was THE original Mac 128
upgraded to a 512k then "Enhanced" to a 512kE with a whopping 800K floppy drive!

I then decided that I wanted to earn a living and I boucht a PC.

Never looked back....untill OSX....

[Nolonemo]

if you aren't smart enough to know what "without a pc" means, then you don't deserve to own a computer.

Well, maybe he thought you wanted to do it on your pocket pc.

[earlygrace]

There is a very simple explanation AND a simple solution!

The original video on a dvd is actually recorded at 23.976 FPS (frames per second). To make the MPEG work on the DVD player, flags are inserted that tell the player to double some of the frames to reproduce 30 (actually 29.97) FPS.

What you have to do is process your finished MPEG2 through a little program called MPEG Telecine. It will produce a 3:2 pulldown of your 30 FPS MPEG2 video file, making it play back at the proper framerate of 23.976 FPS. Best of all the process only takes about two minutes.

This worked, my video actually runs at the same rate as the audio.
BUT the sync is now off, the Audio is about a 1/2 sec early.

What are my options for correcting the sync?