IFOEdit 0.95 and the NTSC Chapture BUG

[tonyp12]

With this guide I was able to fit "BlackHawk Down" on one disc.
http://www.doom9.org/mpg/ifoedit-dvdauthor.htm

The Problem is the Chapter pointers (cell times), ifoedit has a BUG.

With NTSC film DVD it get the time off by 0.8 (e.g 23.9/29.9)

And it will also display the movie length of by x .8 minutes

The whole movie will be there, by the minutes in powerDVD shows
up wrong.

I think Derrow know about this bug, but as he joined 321studio
I may take months before he can fix it.

Legaly if he modify ifoedit during the time he is employed with
321studio they can own that feature.

[bartman]

Legaly if he modify ifoedit during the time he is employed with
321studio they can own that feature.

Only if he does the changes on company time....

[tonyp12]

They can legaly say that he learned it/ thought about it on company time
and if he goes home and modify his ifoedit they own it.

1) an agreement that I would not work for any company or on any project that directly competed with any product of my employer (not just those in my field) during my employment, and for a period of from 6 to 12 months after I left.
2) That any inventions and all copyrighted material authored by me was the intellectual property of my employer.

[bartman]

so....today I thought about making some bread for breakfast tomorow...does work own that ?.....

[tonyp12]

Is your company you work for in the breadmaking business, then yes.

[bartman]

even if it was, it would only have rights to my bread if I used company information to make it, or used company equipment/ingredients.

The point being, the author of any software product can work on it on his own time. The company that the individual works for would have to prove that they used company time/equipment to do it. In this case the presence on source code on a company workstation, evidence that they used a compiler owned by the company or source code / algorithms created by the company used in the source could be used against them.

Whatever an individual does in his or her own time is not owned by the company tht they work for.

[tonyp12]

They could say he gained some knowledge at work on
a specific "ifo" problem that came up during the editing of dvdxcopy.

He can not take this knowledge and use it on any product he makes.

The company kind of own his mind.

E.g you can not make bread with a "secret" ingredient that you gain
knowlege about from work.

321studio already made Derrow agree to take down dvdsplit
and never release a product like it.

[bartman]

even if he did work on it, 321Studio would have a hard time proving it as there would be no hard proof that he used company information.

If you really wanted to you could argue that slavery was abolished a long time ago.....the brain, and the contents therein, remain the property of whoever's head it is stuck in.....

Anyway, this is getting a bit off topic.

I'm sure 123Studios poached him for his information and knowlege if DVD's and I wouldn't be supprised if trhe next IFOEdit release is done under the 321Studio banner (kinda like when a band goes from independent to being a signed act)

[tonyp12]

even if he did work on it, 321Studio would have a hard time proving it as there would be no hard proof that he used company information.

They serve him with paper that say they will sue him for 1Million
dollars plus 40% attorney fees.

He get scared and do what ever they tell him to do.
He may have won in court, but I do not think he would take that chance?

321studio probably try to get him over here on a H-2B visa,
for a shorterm project.
As a steady fulltime job would require a H-1B and takes 2years
to get approval for.
So they use him, shew him up and spit him out.

[joepic]

321studio already made Derrow agree to take down dvdsplit
and never release a product like it.

Do you know this for FACT or just a rumor/specultation on your part?

[tonyp12]

rhmoore:
As part of our agreement with Derrow, he will cease working on DVD Split and incorporate/merge technology with DvdXCopy

[rishardc]

Where is all this coming from? Is this some form of speculation or has this been announced as true?

Also something else I'm curious about legally. If I was a consultant as opposed to a full time employee and I worked on something for a company and then went home and did it would I still be held liable? It seems that Derrow should have been a consultant instead of an actual employee.

[joepic]

Where is all this coming from? Is this some form of speculation or has this been announced as true?

This is all old history. What I heard yesterday, Derrow is moving to the USA in January to work full time for DVDXCOPY.

[KaoS]

even if he did work on it, 321Studio would have a hard time proving it as there would be no hard proof that he used company information.

It is VERY common for software or any development companies to have their employees sign contracts saying that if they develop anything during their employment period with that company, that the company will own the rights to such product

I know I have signed something like this for the last 2 companies that I have worked for

It does not matter if you do it at 3pm or 3am, they will own the rights to it.

Of course I can not gaurantee that he signed something like that, but 123 would be very stupid if they did not have him sign one.

[dc91gt]

having written commerical software for the past 8 years... I can say the following:

1) anything developed on "your time" outside of the company work hours and not on company equipment is in fact "yours".

2) Ifoedit existed before his employment with 321 studios, this in itself excludes it from any claim they might try to place on it. Providing bug fixes and updates are just that.

Unless he sold the exclusive rights of Ifoedit to 321 studios, which does not sound like he did, then there is no problem with him updating it.

However, it seems that he probably doesn't want to, in hopes we'll all use dvdxcopy a product of a company he now works for has probably some kind of equity stake in.

-d

[wulf109]

Back to the original post. I encoded a couple of movies with Rempeg and authored them with Ifoedit 95 and did encounter the time/remaining/chapter problem. I also encoded the four Alien movies using CCE and Ifoedit 95 to aithor them and they do not have the problem. All time and chapters points are reported correctly by my DVD player. Ifoedit captures cell times not chapters points?

[gblanco]

Don't get back to original post.
Continue with Derrow's next chapter.

[Revilo]

Wulf,

What were the original sources of the alien movies? If they were 24 fps "film" then I am very puzzled, but I bet they weren't. You can avoid this problem all together simply by not using force film in dvd2avi, but your results will suffer. I'm not sure what ifoedit captures, but I can say that I tried to change the total frames of the movie to the correct amount, and it worked... However, when you do a get vts sectors, it changes it right back. Now, the question is why does it go back? If it changes back because I didn't change ALL of the cell/chapter frames to the proper amount, then there is a possible fix. However, if it changes the total time back to the incorrect, shorter time because of information it gets from the .vobs, then there is no way to fix it until Derrow fixes it. It might be worthwhile for someone to try to change the total frames, and each cell frames, to the original amount and see if this works.

Revilo