DVD+RW burnt on Nero won't play in standalone

[mtgoat]

This is my first rip. I've successfully backed up a single layer DVD using DVD Decrypter in ISO mode and burning using same. However, when I ripped in file mode and burned using Nero as described here:http://www.hkruse.dircon.co.uk/ (skipping the re-encoding process), I get a disc that plays perfectly in PowerDVD, but won't play on my standalone (Pioneer DV-353). I've read threads in this forum that say that Nero has a problem with some standalone players. Anyone have experience in this matter? Thanks!

[garryheather]

I have never had any problems with Nero. Naff media ? Yes. But not Nero. I have never had any experience that would suggest that Nero isn't up to the job - I'll stand up for Ahead on this one !

I am not familiar with that guide and I'm too lazy to read it ( ), but I'm guessing the problem is more likely to be the tweaks you make with IFOedit (for example, you need to correct the VTS Vectors if you want it to play on a standalone, and make sure you tweak the ripped copy not the original... I did that once and it took me a while to figure out I was working from the wrong directory !)

Then if you open a new project and select DVD VIDEO (I take it you were using the IFO/UDF bridge option before ?) Nero automatically selects the correct file naming convention for you. All you have to do is drag your VOB, IFO and BUP files into the VIDEO_TS folder... Nero even highlights it for you so you can't go wrong. Then you should just be able to click on the write icon and away you go.

Just remember that you can't mix aspect ratios within one VOB, keep an eye on your file sizes and Nero should be fine.

[JimMc]

I had problem with dvd+rw not playing on a brand new panasonic.
The disc was not the problem.
I actually went back to the shop with my ripped disc and stuck it in all the machines it played on all with the exception of a poineer and a panasonic.

SUGGEST YOU give the disc a try on another standalone or 2 before going any further.

[mtgoat]

Basically what I did was rip all files in 'file' mode using DVD Decrypter. I skipped the IFOedit and ReMPEG part and burned in NERO using these settings:
1. select 'DVD Video
2. select 'ISO' tab
3. select 'ISO level 1' under 'File/Directory name length heading
4. select 'ISO 9660' under character set heading
5. all other selection boxes unchecked
Are these settings correct?

[epo]

Didn't verify Your process, but it can still be Nero+media issue. If media is on the limits for given DVD player, different burning SW gives different results.
I have patch of BulkCrap g2 working perfectly, when burned with Ulead and not at all, when with Nero. Exactly the opposite with one patch of BulkPaq g3.2.

[dolphin2002]

I too have a panasonic NV10 and it is not very flexible ,as yet I can only get orignal DVD's to play.VCD's are OKMpeg1's but forget everything else.
I am fortunate I have another DVD player and all my failed disks work on this other machine ...I think its the player...if it helps I bought a cheaper model for £80 from Cyberhome a CH402 and it plays everything.I know thats not what you want to here,but i too have a £180+ DVD player that can play half as much as a £80 system...

[Thorn]

This IS a nero and Pioneer issue. I just bought a Pioneer DV-354 and the DVDs I burned previously with Nero were not playable (while my Apex ad-703 was happy with them). I tried burning using DVDit and the disc played fine. Copying the files to the HD and reburning with nero caused the problem to resume. I've verified this on TDK branded and unbranded media, as well as Princo discs. The only factor that changed was the burning program.

From the buzz on this site, this problem is common ONLY with the newest gen of Pioneer players and Nero (maybe Prassi too, I'm not sure). So essentially the newest Pioneers are pickier than the rest.

epo: That's an interesting thought, that diff. media will behave in opposite ways... next time I get new discs I'll check it out, but my suspicion is that even if different media behave differently, there is still a problem either at Pioneer's end or Ahead's.

[mtgoat]

Thanks All for your comments and input. I think that since I've already spent some dough on the player, and I'm still using the trial version of Nero, I will give it a go with other SW. Recordnow Max possibly since I believe it's compatible with my burner. I welcome other suggestions.
Thanks!

[garryheather]

I don't see why just changing the software used makes THAT much difference - sure, if the data being written on the disc does not conform then yes, it can - but then more people would have the same problem (for example, I have heard so many people slate Windows Me for it's stability, but my Me setup works perfectly and always has done).

Don't forget the writer has a lookup table where it works out the "best" write strategy for the inserted media. If that's wrong then chances are you're stuffed. The software you're burning your discs with has no control over this except when it comes to specifying the features, like buffer underun toggling and speed selection based upon what the writer returns as being gospel.

Also, I believe that Nero, like some other applications, uses the MMC command structure for sending data to the writer - this means they don't have to create new drivers for each and every writer that comes on the market. Unless your writer doesn't understand it, or doesn't comply with it, then you are unlikely to notice any discernable difference in changing software.

It is entirely possible that Ahead have their own interpretation of the relevant standards, but if that was a deciding factor then everyone would be complaining about the software not working. My own experience would suggest that especially with cheap media, you will always get a few that don't seem to burn quite so well, even when they appear to have come from the same batch.

[Feuerwehr]

Some desktop players do have problems with Nero. It is not an authoring or media issue. Using identical media, and the same authored files I have found that some desktop players that accept Prassi burned discs have problems with Nero, at least with DVD-R's. I have not found this to be the case with SCVD's.
It does not appear to be a fluke, as I have experimented with a number of different media. I am using a Pioneer 104 to burn, and use X1 burn and equivalent settings for Prassi and Nero.
Most desktops do fine with Nero, but a few exhibit blockiness and stuttering. I like Nero, but some players don't.

[zyrlex]

Hey.
I´m really not an expert in this area, but I´ve had a similar problem.
I have a pioneer 454, and i´m using nero.

1. Use the latest version!

2. My dvds only work when I burn them in UDF-mode

// Z

[yongkuk]

Try using dvd-rom udf-iso mode, it is the last icon on the left. Also remember to finalise the disk. You could also try ripping as a dvd image file in dvddecrypter

[bacardi/avt]

Strange problem!

I use Infiniti DVD+R and Verbatim, Ricoh and Primedisc DVD+RW and they work pefectly with my Pioneer DV-333 and my brothers Pioneer DV-535. And YES I use NERO to burn them. Could it be that the firmware in the recorder isn´t up to date?

[mtgoat]

You could also try ripping as a dvd image file in dvddecrypter

I have tried that and it worked perfectly.

Could it be that the firmware in the recorder isn´t up to date?

There is a firmware update that I have not yet installed. Will post results.

[mtgoat]

Update: I have now burned 4 DVD-Rs (Princo) and one DVD+RW (Sony) successfully using Recordnow MAX . All play perfectly in Pioneer standalone. At this point I see no reason to continue to try to use Nero.