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  1. Ok so the subject may be a little bit misleading but here's my question.

    The Mac community (Mac OS X) now has a number of good vcd/svcd tools around like , ffmpegx, vcdbuilder, missingmpegtools etc and they all do the job well in there own special way. My question is when are we going to see a tool that will do it all and can compete with the PC tools. I keep reading that its a heck of a lot easiler, faster and better to encode on a PC, so when are we going to be getting the same type of tools as our PC friends (I say that loosey, no offence).

    We need a 1 tool to encode, enhance and output various video formats into VCD/SVCD formats . So why don't the authors of all these different tools get together and produce a single easy to use application. This Mac forum is a god send but we keep reinventing the wheel by asking simular if not the same questions again and again. As well as application we need tutorials and documentation to get the best out of these existing tools, I cant tell you how many CD's I've wasted trying to get the best SVCD from my home video footage.

    All those in favour say 'Yeah'

    I shall now step down from my soapbox... Thankyou for your time.

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  2. Call steve job, he claims Mac can do everything better and easier than PC.
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    Originally Posted by SingSing
    Call steve job, he claims Mac can do everything better and easier than PC.
    That's because it can.
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  4. its true a mac *can* do things better, the Apple mpg2 encoder does dvd encoding at realtime on my dual 1ghz G4. trouble is that it's really a bugger for smaller developers to create software comparable to that of Tmpgenc on a mac, which will use the true power of a mac. Still we can but dream...
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    Originally Posted by SingSing
    Call steve job, he claims Mac can do everything better and easier than PC.
    its so funny that so many pc users thiink that pcs are better b/c thats what MS and all those crappy pc companies would have them believe, chances are 96% of these brainwashed users have never actually even SEEN let alone extensively USED a Mac to make an actual EDUCATED comparison.... make me begin to believe that stupid is contagious.
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  6. Originally Posted by SingSing
    Call steve job, he claims Mac can do everything better and easier than PC.
    I did not mentioned MS at all. Some people just go into a fit.
    Popularity of PC is what make $40 CD writer, $30 DVD drive,
    $250 DVD writer, $120 1GHz CPU, capture card, memory... happened.

    It is the hardware baby !

    Most of the PC users post are try to work out the detal,
    and optimised, and move on to next gen. PC user are more practical.

    Linux tools are mostly PC port too. Os-x is a port from freeBSD unix, but the mac hardware is different enough, and thus porting is a big deal.
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    Originally Posted by apt
    We need a 1 tool to encode, enhance and output various video formats into VCD/SVCD formats .
    I'm not sure, because I've never used it, but from what I've read can't ffmpegX do that?
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    Originally Posted by SingSing
    Originally Posted by SingSing
    Call steve job, he claims Mac can do everything better and easier than PC.
    I did not mentioned MS at all. Some people just go into a fit.
    Popularity of PC is what make $40 CD writer, $30 DVD drive,
    $250 DVD writer, $120 1GHz CPU, capture card, memory... happened.

    It is the hardware baby !

    Most of the PC users post are try to work out the detal,
    and optimised, and move on to next gen. PC user are more practical.

    Linux tools are mostly PC port too. Os-x is a port from freeBSD unix, but the mac hardware is different enough, and thus porting is a big deal.
    okay granted i shouldnt have overgeneralized about PC users and MS since u dont HAVE to submit to the tyranny of that aweful company and be forced to use their shoddy operating systems. Okay maybe you do get "more" for your money with a PC.. but you get what u pay for... Dont think because we spend more money that we are not practical, we just get computers made out of higher quality parts that last ALOT longer than your typical PeeCee, i'd rather get higher quality of product than quantity of "features" ... um i think im pretty well aware of the fact that darwin is a port of freebsd, im not a total ignorant mac evangelist that just follows our better computers with blind faith, i do actually educate myself about the machine's i use, and about the machines im sure as hell glad that i don't use.
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  9. It sounds though that for this topic PC people have more automated software - I mean isn't Nero meant to straighten out your mpgs ready to burn to vcd etc etc? I have mystery problems with some of my files and end up going round in circles with one console program after another and whenever I look for advice it looks like PC users are sorted. I dunno.
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  10. Originally Posted by zantor
    It sounds though that for this topic PC people have more automated software - I mean isn't Nero meant to straighten out your mpgs ready to burn to vcd etc etc? I have mystery problems with some of my files and end up going round in circles with one console program after another and whenever I look for advice it looks like PC users are sorted. I dunno.
    I quite agree. The PC world has more inexpensive tools which require less expertise to use. TMPGenc works most of the time for me while the Mac solutions should work but I end up making a small mistake and 10 hours later I have to start over! Unfortunately I have to keep using TMPGenc in VPC and it's slow but I can't quite bring myself to buy a PC just for these video conversions. Eventually the Mac will be able to do things but as in many areas the Mac is great for high-end stuff but weak to non-existant for your run of the mill folk like myself. Just keep plugging away I guess If OSX hadn't arrived the situation would be truly hopeless.

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  11. HEAR HEAR with a very loud applauding to follow.

    I must elaborate on that however. Even though I still haven't been able to create a satisfactorily running SVCD with ALL the hints and tips I could find on this site and the divx.com forum for mac... I think the guys who create the tools that we DO have are doing a great job. My impression is that there are too many variables (hardware/software, ideas about what really IS a good SVCD) to be able to create one tool that will work for all.

    Having said that... I have recently not been in the mood anymore to even try to create an SVCD since it depresses me that I keep on trying and nothing works.
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