VERY FRUSTRATED ...Can someone give me a hand

[arcorob]

I am really at a loss here. Would appreciate any HELP

Taking a HIGH-8 VIDEO and capture to VirtualDub using ATI AIW.

Capture at 740 by 480 AVI, all settings for virtual dub standard.

Comes out fine. I import the clip to VIDEO FACTORY. Add some sighns, etc, and render as a 740 by 480 DV format AVI. Upon inspecting it looks INTERLACED ( I see horizontal lines when played with DVD software or ATI player)

I figure thats okay. I feed this to TMPG to produce an MPEG 2. ENCODE interlace, source INTERLACE. Motion precision set for the LONGEST.

I get motion BLUR of some sort. Cannot eliminate. It is like watching a movie drunk if there is alot of motion. I have tried NON-INTERLACED to INTERLACE, NON to NON, etc. No difference.

So what do I do ? It should not blur on motion like that. I am ASSUMING the VIDEO factory is making interlaced because when I produce it says bottom field first, interleave every .25 seconds

Mayb VDUB starts non-interlaced, I don't know.

Is this an INTERLACE problem or not ? Am I changing too man y modes ? Maybe I should output AVI NATIVE not DV which wouldl be bigger but maybe better ??? UGGGG....I cant take it anymore.

Sorry, but every time I think I have it beat, I get this. How I DONT get this is if I cature at 352 by 240, then no blur, but picture quality is so so .....What to do what to do...

[tonyp12]

Did you try swapping field order?

In DV is is: Bottom field first (B)

With Analog HI-8 capping I'm not sure, just change it and see.

[arcorob]

Yup...Tried that and 100 other things and have determine dthis.

IT HAS TO BE related to ATI AIW capture card. ANYTHING captured above 352 by 240 causes those lines to appear and thus BLUR. Even 352 by 288, I get them. It then always goes to an INTERLACED picture with a field order (a or b). VDUB. VIDEO FACTORy, ATI, no matter what. As soon as I go over that on capture it happens.

I read something here about that with ATI. Can anyone elaborate ???? I did get VDUB to do BEAUTIFUL 352 by 240 AVI with full CD quality sound, used VIDEO factory, did same settings and TMPG (which detected it was no longer interlaced) and great. NOT PERFECT but pretty damn good.

But why cant I get the BEST and then step down ? DO I need to go digital and firewire ? CANOPUS ADCT-100 maybe ???

Advice appreciated !! And thanks for the swap field order idea...

[Mavrick]

I’m not an expert at this. I can tell you some of the things that I have learned and save me time. I make XSVCD’s only, as I’m converting home videos to CD. I have managed over time to get it down to 4 easy steps.


Step 1: Capture the video as uncompressed AVI (this gives you the best quality to work with) as close to the final output resolution as you can. This will save encoding time if it does not have to resize it. In my case 480x480 or 640x480

Step 2: Edit the captured video. I use Media Studio Pro 6.5DC for this.

Step 3: Save the edited video in Media Studio as an MPEG2 480x480 with a VBR of 4000. Field order B first. (make sure your player can play this).

Step 4: Burn the MPEG file(s) to CD with DVD Movie Factory. Make your menus etc…

That’s it!!

You can download a trial copy of Media Studio Pro from
http://www.ulead.com/msp/runme.htm

They also offer upgrade offers from other editing software – so you can get it as cheep as $129.00 for the DC version.

Works every time and I get video as good as the original… I would say its DVD quality. The down side is I can only get 20-30min per CD with a bit rate that high… but with this quality, I’ll take it!

[arcorob]

Heres the real question though..WHAT HARDWARE are you using to capture ? I think I have discovered the error to be a hardware restriction and not software..As I stated, I have the ATI All In Wonder 128 Pro (non-radeon) and somewhere there is info that there is a limit....THANK YOU !!

[Mavrick]

I'm using a ATI All-in-Wonder Radeon 8500DV.

However, When I first started makin' XSVCDs (or coasters ) I had the same things showing up that you are describing.

I tried VDUB, TMPGne, and a host of other program to fix it, with only a lil sucess.

It wasn't till I tried the method I posted above that all my problems went away.

(Remember: Interlaced Video will look funny on your PC, but will look great on your TV if you use Field Order B first when making your MPEG)

[arcorob]

Wow..you DO know what I am talking about (hurrah !!! )

You know , I experimented all night tonight. Went to MMC 7.6, etc. Tried ATI, VDUB and Video factory for capture. Same damn MOTION lines and blur.

Now, I did get higher with less blur but still have it.

Here is the thing. If I capture
VDUB 352 by 240
Produce video in VIDEO factory and save as AVI 352 by 240
Feed to TMPG and make MPEG 2 SVCD

BEAUTIFUL ! But I just think it could be so much better if I started with 640 by 480 and squish down instead of 352 by 240 and expand up...

I am going to try what you say (with what I have) as I DO NOT wish to buy more software..LOL

BUt I am seriously looking at the adct-100 and a fireware. Seems awesome.

Thank you so much.

Oops , I forgot , I have ULEAD video studio...but not what you mentioned. Also, I dont care how much DISK it takes. The disk I burn to DUB to VHS anyway ..(though I use the disks too)

Thanks again

[Mavrick]

You’re Welcome, and I'm glad you got it to work!

I didn't want to buy more software either, well at first anyway...
I just thought; “There HAS to be an EASY way to convert my VHS/Hi8 videos to CD, without using ump-teen programs and 1000 steps...”

So I made it a mission to capture, edit, and render all in one program with quality results; and without worrying about 1000 settings and filters.

After 3 Months of downloading and trying allot of programs I found the EASY way with Ulead’s Media Studio 6.5 DC! And to me it was worth every penny. After all I done dropped a few bucks for all the hardware to make it work.

Anyway... good luck with your videos!