Type 1 DV - importing into virtual dub

[theboywonder]

I have the main concept codec installed, which allows me to import my video into Virtual Dub.

However, since the file is Type-1 DV, it cannot read the audio from the avi.

My video has horizonal lines through it, and i was recommended to process in vdub using the deinterlace filter (it works) .... however I need the sound!

Would a DV splitter be the answer to obtain the audio? (then frameserve the video and audio into tmpgenc)

If anyone can recommend an easy way to get to SVCD, including removing the lines, i would be most thankful!

Robin

[vhelp]

a quick answer comes to mind.

If you have no problem bringing it into tmpg, then just bring the AVI
file into tmpg's audio box, and then mux just the audio to a wav file.

or I think you have to go into tmpg's MPEG tools and use the
Simple De-multiplex. You only need the audio, I beleive to be the
*.wav file.

whichever means you use to separate the audio from video into a wav file,
then, once done, bring it into vdub. ie,
Audio/WAV Audio...

steps:
* tmpg: File/MPEG tools/Simple multiplex and give file wav name
* vdub: Audio/WAV Audio... w/ this wav file above
Then frameserve/process your video.

Good luck.
-vhelp

[ToeCutter]

a quick answer comes to mind.

If you have no problem bringing it into tmpg, then just bring the AVI
file into tmpg's audio box, and then mux just the audio to a wav file.

or I think you have to go into tmpg's MPEG tools and use the
Simple De-multiplex. You only need the audio, I beleive to be the
*.wav file.

whichever means you use to separate the audio from video into a wav file,
then, once done, bring it into vdub. ie,
Audio/WAV Audio...

steps:
* tmpg: File/MPEG tools/Simple multiplex and give file wav name
* vdub: Audio/WAV Audio... w/ this wav file above
Then frameserve/process your video.

Good luck.
-vhelp

And I thought I was the only person who had problems with VDub and Type 1 AVIs.

The MPEG Tools in TMPGEnc won't recognize the Type 1 AVI either, but the "Output to File" approach mentioned by vhelp DOES work.

Here's how I've been encoding MiniDV to MPEG2 with Dolby Digital:

1. Open the AVI in TMPGEnc.
2. Select File > Output to file > WAVE file
3. I usually select 16 bit, 48,000 Hz, PCM (DVD quality)
4. Save the *.wav file.

With that finished, encode your AVI as a VIDEO stream (no audio). Perform any audio processing on your WAV file (I encode my audio to an AC3 stream that sounds incredible on my home theater). Then, using the MPEG Tools in TMPGEnc, multiplex the files into a finished MPEG2. This has worked flawlessly for me on countless DVDs.

Many in this forum has discussed the advantages of encoding the video and audio separately. I've begun to accept this notion. It's just so much easier dealing with the streams separately. TMPGEnc encodes the video streams much faster without the audio. Also, some set top players can't decode MPEG audio. They deal only with either PCM or AC3/DTS audio streams. Why TMPGEnc encodes the audio streams as MPEG by default is a mystery to me.
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[Allan55]

Hi,

Somewhere here there a couple of references to conversion programs for type1 <--> type2. I think www.canopus.com has one for free. I don't remember the others.

Allan

[yg1968]

Toecutter,

What do you use to encode the wav audio into AC3?

Incidentally, here is a type 1/type 2 converter that is made by Ulead:

http://rfm.ulead.com/pav/dv.htm

DVIO allows you to capture in type 1 or type 2:

http://www.carr-engineering.com/dvio.htm

[ToeCutter]

Toecutter,

What do you use to encode the wav audio into AC3?

Incidentally, here is a type 1/type 2 converter that is made by Ulead:

http://rfm.ulead.com/pav/dv.htm

DVIO allows you to capture in type 1 or type 2:

http://www.carr-engineering.com/dvio.htm

I use Sonic Soundry's Soft Encode for AC3. It's very easy to use. Just add your raw wavs and it encodes an .ac3 file.I then multiplex it with the .m2v with TMPGEnc.

Thanks for the link. I've had mixed results with Type I/II convertors, but I've never used this one, I'll try it out.

I have used DVIO but have always wondered: How do you get the audio track? Recapture with another app?

[vhelp]

toecutter,

I have used that app that yg1968 has suggested. It
does work. However, I found that it was best used w/ small
DV files, like 100MB here or there, and anything larger,
and you are basically re-encoding or how's it go... transcoding
to another CODEC, hence the added time to the project at hand,
and not to mention that you also need additional HD space, ie,
for a 1024k size file, to transcode, you'd need 2048k - - starting
to get the picture yet?
It's good for small 100MB files, like quickies, but other than
that, you're better off finding another route that is quicker to
seporate the video/audio, etc.

I've used DVIO, but had problems. But, that's not to say you will
too. I was NOT using it properly! ie, I didn't have my DV cam
ON and in VCR mode. Make sure you do!
Actually, the app I used, and like is RSDVCAP.EXE - - do a search
via Google.com and enter that filename as it. You'll find the
app to D/L. I liked this one. OH, and you CAN switch between
Type 1, and Type 2 in it. So, you'll save yourself the hassle w/
* transcoding
* video/audio separating
* etc.

Give RSDVCAP.EXE a go. you wont reget it!!

I'd like to look into the AC3 thing though. I was interested in
this as yg1968 was too. But, I'd like something that is
* easier
* quicker (get in and get out)
* and required minimal frameserving, if you know what I mean.

Basically, I capture VHS movies (store bought) and I like the sound
quality, as they all have AC3 or DolbySuround sound, and most of
my caps don't seem to or lack the same sound quality.
Again, from VHS store bought movies.

-vhelp

[theboywonder]

thanx for all the help people!

yg1968. that program worked a treat

[yg1968]

Here is the link for downloading the rsdvcap program:

http://www.rexpccard.co.jp/english/support/software/fw/

[theboywonder]

which one is it?

[yg1968]

The latest version is the rsdve291.exe file.

[theboywonder]

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