If this is true, Microsoft has damned it'self

[Greg12]

I just heard the next version of windows after xp will require you to buy all new software, it won't be compatible with anyfrom from windows 9x, me, 2000, nt or xp


Every company will have to code new programs for the new windows.

[nfl2k2]

link?

[Greg12]

no idea, i was bicycling with my dad today and he just up and told me.

[homerpez]

I seriously doubt they will do any such thing. If they do make a new "core" (like, if they have a 64-bit or 128-bit engine standard), they would likely have emulation for the "older" stuff.

That's the trend they started as of XP - "Compatability Mode".

As bad as M$ can get at times, if they did alienate all older software, they'd become a MAC, and nobody wants a MAC.

[tgpo]

Mac Power!

[devinemi83]

Like someone else said, only if they shifted into 64 bit technology would that happen. And they would do the same thing they did when they went 32 from pure 16 bit. They would never leave all those titles behind. That would mean not only other venders but theirs as well. Companies would never allow them to carry that out. To replace big apps like Photoshop or Maya would cost a large company 100s of thousands or millions. People IF that did happen would shift to Macs and Linux. They would need to. MS would kill itself.

[Faustus]

How exactly has apple alienanted all the older software? WE have classic and dual boot systems are default right now. Back in the PPC 64k days both would run on the newer systems.... Apple has sent a clear message to developers to get an gear and develop for OSX but they have no cut off anything... I run PCs and Mac and let me tell ya... its a cool thing, my old iMac is getting a BIG HDD and some Klipsch 2.1 speakers and turning into my uber MP3 box, well thats happening soon as I can afford a new G4 (or G5 if they are out by then).

Mac = expensive? Yes.
Mac = Quality? He11 yeah

My PC owns all right now in my computer room but there is NO loss of love for my little Indigo iMac... heh that why my PC case is blue!

[Helmut]

I've heard from the director of the seller of microsoft here in sweden that the new service pack will make you sure you cant use any pirated winxp, but I doubt it

[jeex]

i was bicycling with my dad today and he just up and told me.

muwahahahahahaha.. what a dumbass

[Faustus]

The XP service pack (and this is rumor... well semi rumor) will update the OS that that KNOWN corp edition serial numbers will not work after the update... or something like that.

That might not be it exactly but they do have some surprise in store I would suspect.

[SteveDVD]

flay or whatever the hell is name is, is right....
I read an article that says XP Corp SP1 will have somethingy in it where when....ok nevermind heres the link


http://www.astalavista.com/library/cracking/misc/xpwarez.shtml

[homerpez]

The SP1 thing is definitely true. It will reset activation, replacing it with a whole new number scheme. I believe then after you install SP1, you will be asked for you # again to activate. If it's not on their list - poof.

This is why (honesty being the other reason), I actually PURCHASED my XP Pro.

[vitualis]

How exactly has apple alienanted all the older software?... Apple has sent a clear message to developers to get an gear and develop for OSX but they have no cut off anything...

How about getting OSX printing on older printers (including Apple printers??)

Regards.

[mrtristan]

I was debating purchasing a copy, the other day. Have you used Windows 2000 Pro? If so, how would you compare the two?

The SP1 thing is definitely true. It will reset activation, replacing it with a whole new number scheme. I believe then after you install SP1, you will be asked for you # again to activate. If it's not on their list - poof.

This is why (honesty being the other reason), I actually PURCHASED my XP Pro.

[zzyzzx]

The SP1 thing is definitely true. It will reset activation, replacing it with a whole new number scheme. I believe then after you install SP1, you will be asked for you # again to activate. If it's not on their list - poof.

This is why (honesty being the other reason), I actually PURCHASED my XP Pro.

I'll add this to my long list of reasons to keep in using Windows 98SE.

[devinemi83]

Thats why i like 98SE. Its simple and stupid. It just works, to quote the MAC people. Everyone I ask about XP says it has all these hassles. I like 98. She may crash from time to time but I still have DOS in there to help restore my machine.

[Helmut]

It just works, to quote the MAC people.

Haha! Like win98se just work, NOT A CHANCE. WinXP rules the world if you compare to win98se.

[SteveDVD]

Go Helmut!

[homerpez]

I was debating purchasing a copy, the other day. Have you used Windows 2000 Pro? If so, how would you compare the two?

Well...

For me, it was awesome since it allowed me to run (most of) my older stuff from Win 98, and still has the features I needed from Win2k.

I had to use Win2k for work purposes, and I logically had to upgrade to XP Pro (NTFS formatted hard drives), plus, "It's just better" than XP Home.

Depending on who you ask, the differences between XP and 2k are negligible. 2k is stable enough, and if it works for you, there's not a drastic need to upgrade. But XP is both stable, AND is a great gaming platform since it runs older stuff. To me, both are decent, but I prefer XP.

[devinemi83]

Windows 98se hardly ever crashes on me. And I do alot of programming. And even error in my programs dont hurt windows. I usually do a full reinstall about once a year. Plus I dont have to worry about my next update causing havok in my machine.

[Faustus]

Indeed you have me on the printer thing... they offer horrible support for the older apple printers... for non apple prints thats the manufactuers fault not apples. But really how long does apple have to support old printers they haven't sold for years? I think they should personally, but after a point its not their responsibility. But in general I think apple tries pretty hard.

Its a whole new world with apple computers these days, and most the heartache is cause by people with old addons, and who wont upgrade their 7 year old scsi scanner to work with the freaking IMAC!!!

"Do they make a special cable?"
"Yes, and when it doesn't work well don't call me."

[ml28103]

i miss DOS

[d4n13l]

"...but I still have DOS in there to help restore my machine"

Heh, funny that you should say that: isn't Win9x just a big-ugly-memory-leaking-glorified-psuedo-multi-tasking-GUI-hack for DOS anyway?

"And I do alot of programming. And even error in my programs dont hurt windows."

You must be a VB programmer or something then. For C programming, it sucks ass.

Conclusion. If only OS/2... <ramble>

[SupremeDementia]

But XP is both stable, AND is a great gaming platform since it runs older stuff. To me, both are decent, but I prefer XP

In that point I have to disagree. I have winMe right now and can't complaint much. It gets the job done and that's enough for me. But I once had winXP and yes it's as stable as windows gets. One app may crash but it doesn't take the whole system down with it. But when it comes to games XP as a problem with old cards, I have a Nvidia Riva 128 that couldn't get the 3D engine turned on while in XP. That meant no games for me. can u imagina my life without letting off some steam by fraggin some friends in Quake ? I can't

So here I am with winME ... I treat it kindly, speak softly to it ... and went it crashes I go to the coffee shop or get back at reading some weird book borrowed from an even weirder friend

BTW i remember reading in a site about the winXP 3D engine problem with some cards. I think it was Nvidia's but it's been so long ago that I can't remember, sorry

[Greg12]

If you got Windows ME to stop crashing every 5 minutes, you are the luckiest person in the world.

[SupremeDementia]

·x· uptime: 1day 5mins and still going.Taken from mirc connected to my favorite IRC server

[homerpez]

SupremeDementia... all due respect (and I mean that)... seems that it's your MACHINE that has a problem with games, not XP...

If modern hardware was in use (heh heh) then you'd be fine!

Again, following Golden Rule #2 of the forum... WHATEVER WORKS.

[SupremeDementia]

lol I have to concede, it's the video cards fault ... and mine of course for not buying a new one...anyone wanna borrow me a geforce 'till Xmas ?

[therick]

this has been my OS chain:

win95 -> win98 -> win98 SE -> win98 -> win2K -> Linux

98 SE absolutely sucked on my machine. It crashed WAY more than win95 did. And it does suck ass for C programming. I am still on win2K at the moment, but as soon as I get some transfers done I am loading Linux and M$ be damned...don't get me wrong, 2K has treated me VERY well, but I think that M$ is an evil empire and I don't think I should have to pay for my OS and progs when I am making no profit off of them...2 cents clinked

[Dominar_Rygel]

To stevedvd,
I wouldnt use ANY update or service pack if I had an illegal copy because if they had any brains now that this is getting out they should make it a part of say a security update or something to screw you into getting it without knowing about it right?

To The 12 Yr old dude that says win-ME crashes every 5 mins?? Sorry if thats been your experience but I have it and I almost never crash BUT when I do I just hit restart and dont cry about it. Luckily I only lost work once but any App or system can concievably crash and so you just try to be careful about working right?

I am a Linux believer but working my way up to converting cuz what the hell am I gonna do waste the money and all I have while this is still workin fine. Upgrades and I love to do them are split between 2 PC's in my house so ya try NOT to do them too much or waste them where there is no real clear advantage in speed or graphics or sound!
Now lemme go watch 8-Legged Freaks.........damn its a helluva movie but I am having a real prob tryin to burn it! Hope its NOT a damned Clone-CD file, Ill be pissed!