Creating dvd quality vcds or xvcds

[Drakan]

I have seen two posts on witch the author claims he can create vcds that have dvd quality. I have been trying do so for the past 2 days but my efforts seem to be in vain.

Baisicaly what I tried to do was write the Matrix reloaded teaser at the best quality possible. The video has a resolution of 640 x 288. After encoding the video with TMPGEnc using mpeg-2 at that same resolution and afterwards multiplexing to mpeg-1 vcd, I burned the teaser with nero on a cd/rw without forgetting to un-check the "use standard compilant cd
" box in the vcd menu which is the only way that I can get a resolution higher than 352 x 240 on the vcd. But when I try to play it on my home theater the image of the video exceeds the borders of the tv.
So isn't there a way that I can view a widescreen movie on my 4:3 tv at a high resolution (or dvd quality) using a vcd, without an overflowing image?
Drakan

[Mirror_Image]

I have seen two posts on witch the author claims he can create vcds that have dvd quality. I have been trying do so for the past 2 days but my efforts seem to be in vain.

The world will end before anyone manages to make an 1150kbps CBR 352x240 video look "DVD quality". Easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle...etc.

[Drakan]

"I tried XVCD at resolution of 720X480 (just like a DVD) at 4.0Mbps and it plays awesome. I encode using TMPGEnc using MPEG-2 VBR then multiplexing it to VCD(standard), audio at 44.1, 128, stereo. Looks just like a DVD only shows compression during high movement but otherwise you would think you are watching a DVD." Toto Smith.


I've already read the tutorials on the site about vcds but they don't apply to me because I don't want to write a 352 x 240 vcd. From what I can see up to now the problem is the resolution. When i write the video at 640 x 288, the image doesn't fit the tv (It's as if the tv's resolution is set to 352 x240, even though it can go higher).

I know my dvd can play vcds and xvcds, that, I am shure of, and the sound works fine. The problem is shomewhere either in Nero or in TMPGEnc.
It's as if Nero sets the fullscreen resolution of the screen at 352 x 240, even though the movie has a 640 x 288 resolution, so it's like trying to fit a big box in a small box...it's impossible. How can I view a video at a 640 x 288 resolution on my tv then?

thx for the help, Drakan

[bm2002]

"I tried XVCD at resolution of 720X480 (just like a DVD) at 4.0Mbps and it plays awesome. I encode using TMPGEnc using MPEG-2 VBR then multiplexing it to VCD(standard), audio at 44.1, 128, stereo. Looks just like a DVD only shows compression during high movement but otherwise you would think you are watching a DVD." Toto Smith.


I've already read the tutorials on the site about vcds but they don't apply to me because I don't want to write a 352 x 240 vcd. From what I can see up to now the problem is the resolution. When i write the video at 640 x 288, the image doesn't fit the tv (It's as if the tv's resolution is set to 352 x240, even though it can go higher).

I know my dvd can play vcds and xvcds, that, I am shure of, and the sound works fine. The problem is shomewhere either in Nero or in TMPGEnc.
It's as if Nero sets the fullscreen resolution of the screen at 352 x 240, even though the movie has a 640 x 288 resolution, so it's like trying to fit a big box in a small box...it's impossible. How can I view a video at a 640 x 288 resolution on my tv then?

thx for the help, Drakan

You are right Drakan - prob is somewhere in NERO or TMPGenc but ...
Nero can't change nothing of specifications of your MPEG -It is just copying MPEG file to CD with additional entries . So you remained with TMPGenc and I beleave this is the source of problem .
Check your encoding settings at TMPGenc ->settings->Advanced
You probably didn't set right settings at : Source aspect retio and Video arrange method . To get right aspect retio you have to play with them .
I'm quite shure that if you set at Source aspect retio -1:1(VGA) or 2.11:1 Display and Video arrange method to Full screen(keep aspect retio) you will get right aspect retio . If this setting aren't right than play with this 2 param's Source aspect retio and Video arrange methodtill you get right aspect retio on TMPGenc preview window .
Hope this help ya !!!

bm2002

[wulf109]

Based on my expierence I would say the "problem" is in your DVD players video amplifier. It's designed to resize certain resolutions.
352x240,352x480,704x480,and 720x480. Any other it cannot display full screen. DVD's native resolution is 720x480.

[greentalks]

i dont think that is possible wounldn't it be becasue of the resolution of a VCD is 352x240 and DVD is 720x480

[jbirdg]

Drakan,
bm2002 is correct.
Source aspect retio -1:1(VGA) and Display and Video arrange Full screen(keep aspect retio). These settings in the advanced tab will fix your prob.

jbirdg

[Drakan]

wulf 109

:Based on my expierence I would say the "problem" is in your DVD players video amplifier. It's designed to resize certain resolutions.
352x240,352x480,704x480,and 720x480. Any other it cannot display full screen. DVD's native resolution is 720x480.

How does my dvd identify a widescreen movie on a dvd and manage to play it then? And how can I know what widescreen resolutions are supported by my amplifier then?

[Drakan]

I'm quite shure that if you set at Source aspect retio -1:1(VGA) or 2.11:1 Display and Video arrange method to Full screen(keep aspect retio) you will get right aspect retio . If this setting aren't right than play with this 2 param's Source aspect retio and Video arrange methodtill you get right aspect retio on TMPGenc preview window .

If my tv is 4:3 and I want to view the video in widescreen what should I put under video/aspect ratio?

[Drakan]

IT WORKS!!! IT FINALLY WORKS!


Wulf109 was right

Based on my expierence I would say the "problem" is in your DVD players video amplifier. It's designed to resize certain resolutions.
352x240,352x480,704x480,and 720x480. Any other it cannot display full screen. DVD's native resolution is 720x480.

My dvd or amplifier, whichever, only knows a few basic resolutions anything other than that and the image will not fit the screen properly. So in the end I tried re-encoding the video at 720 x 480 and it fits perfectly!
thx guys!

[alkieman]

The aspect ration of a DVD movie is held in a file called an IFO file. This information file tells your DVD player certain parameters such as whether it's an NTSC or PAL discs, what the aspect ration is, how to mavigate the discs etc. Your DVD authoring application will automatically create the IFO file when you create your DVD structure.

You cannot get a full length DVD quality movie on one blank CD-R, it's impossible. You can use a number of hybrid formats and if you are lucky, your DVD player will recognise them.

You can use the guides to the left to create an xVCD which can hold a full length movie but what you create is not a valid VideoCD so it wont play in most DVD or VideoCD players. The quality isn't that great either.

Another hybrid format you can try is MiniDVD which is essentially DVD compliant MPEG2 on a CD-R. Because of the much higher filesizes however you only get around 18 minutes on one blank CD-R but for short projects and presentations it's ideal. As mentioned above you can squeeze more on the disc by playing around with the bitrates and if your DVD players can handle the discs, it's worth trying after all, blank CD-Rs are dirt cheap. Don't throw a wobbly however if your expensive brand name player spits the disc out, many wont play discs that deviate even a little bit from the recognised standards.