Need an HDMI capture card that works with VirtualDub

[Below Zero]

I'm trying to capture some 8mm film into VDub via an HDMI box. I'm pointing an HD camera with HDMI out directly at the film.

I've tried the AverMedia Live Gamer Mini and the Startech USB3HDCAP. Both are recognized in VDub, but neither will capture video without serious issues.

Does anyone know of a card I can use that works well with VDub?

[ctsdh0]

Hi. I was wondering what are those issues ? I am pretty sure both Magewell USB and Inogen 4KUSB3 both should work with VDUB ( another question - why it has to be VDUB ? ). After spending houndred of £ on different capture card my last choice ( mainly to capture 4k movies pc->pC ) was Inogen https://inogeni.com/product/4k2usb3/
I must say i would love to stay with Avermedia GC553G2 which is amazing, ultra wide, etc... has one serious issue- no 23.87/24/25FPS on input without stutters, apparantly it can do 240fps, but chipset architecture unable to record 23/24/25 fps as i've been told by tech-support. Inogeni 4kusb3 has no problems with "cinematic" fps, but no ultra-wide support, so i have to capture in full 4k and crop. I can test my inogen with VDUB tomorrow and could let you know.

[aramkolt]

Do those work if you give it a stable video signal? Other question is why do you need to use with virtual dub if it's already a digital signal?

[Below Zero]

The video signal is stable. I've gotten both boxes to work with other software, but can't get either one to play nice with VDub.

I'm making several comparison videos using various cameras, settings, capture software and post processing. I could (and I have) just capture to the camera's SD Card, but I want to show some results using lossless files as well. Might have to use AmarecTV or even OBS for this example. I'm just more familiar with VDub.

[davexnet]

See this video at around the 10 minute mark
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66F4l0dqdX8

[aramkolt]

In the video above, I don't think he's capturing HDMI sources and that's likely where the problem is.

I don't think HDMI capture has anything to gain from being used with virtual dub on the capture side. If you are trying to capture HDMI without any compression, you could use something like a Blackmagic 3G recorder which has uncompressed capture as an option within Blackmagic media express. I believe the Blackmagic intensity shuttle can do that as well. Blackmagic also has standalone devices that can capture uncompressed HDMI to SSDs like the Hyperdeck Studio Pro and some others.

Others should correct me if I'm wrong about there being a reason to use Virtualdub for HDMI captures.

[Below Zero]

Perhaps you are correct. I realize that I can use other methods to capture HDMI in a lossless format and I guess I'll find another way. I'm so used to capturing VHS tapes using VDub and I was thinking that my new venture into 8mm film could be done the same way. I've never captured HDMI sources before so it looks like I'll check out other methods. Thanks for your help.

[Alwyn]

Done some more testing on this, BZ.

AmarecTV captures HDMI with no issues at all via the USB3HDCAP, at whatever resolution you want. You can even patch analogue audio (projector speaker) into the HDMI stream using the Composite dongle.

Vdub is borked. In fact, if it wasn't for the Histogram, I'd kick the capture function of VDub into touch and never look at it again.

[Hunk91]

If you want to use Virtualdub to capture hdmi, then you should consider using Virtualdub2

Works better with hdmi capture cards