DVD NTSC/PAL help

[Noise]

Hello guys.

I'm new here and I would like to ask something...

First of all, I'm a musical video clip collector (I have a lot of VOB files riped from mine original VHS from many artists). Each VOB size is about 200MB and 500MB, all of then with LPCM (from CD) audio resync by me.

I have NTSC and PAL videos, and I don't want to reencode nothing (audio or video).

The videos I own that were ripped from different VHS with different VCR, have different bitrates ranging from 6000kb/s to 9800kb/s, all with LPCM audio from pressed CD.

Hence the need to create a DVD in which each video clip to a single VOB file.

My DVD player can read a video clip whose total bitrate is 11336kb/s.

In some commercial DVD I own, I noticed that the structure of the VIDEO_TS folder is different from a standart DVD... each video clip is a separate VOB file.

With Womble Mpeg Video Wizard 5, I could do something similar, that is, created a DVD VOB file where each corresponds to a video clip, but it is not everything as I want it ...

Here, then, the problem and the questions ...


The problem is that when I watch a DVD that I created, I can not change/skip tracks, or to watch the band 4, need to watch the tracks 1,2 and 3 before.

Looking for an answer to my problem, I found on the internet a DVD9 created from 3 DVD5 where there are two commercial DVD (one in PAL and other NTSC) and a homemade DVD part of

a show that was televised.

This DVD I found, has a simple menu, with the name of each of the three DVD included. When selected the DVD you want assisitr, everything works normally. In this structure DVD9 each

video clip is not a VOB file separately, ie each VOB file consists of more than one video clip (remembering that this is not what I want ... just quoted this DVD9 as an example that in

the same DVD can burn files to NTSC and PAL)

The question is:

Is there a program where I can create a DVD from video clips of different color systems (NTSC and PAL) and different bitrates without join them and without reencodá them?

1. VIDEO_TS structure from a comercial video clip DVD



2. print screen from a Womble project



Any help will be very welcome and appreciated.

[DB83]

Well to answer just part of your question, you can not mix PAL and NTSC on the same dvd.

Also, if your clips are stored in individual vob files, it is not possible to author a dvd where you can skip from one 'track' to another. All tracks must be in the same vob,or series of vobs (if larger than 1 gb) and then controlled through chapter points. the higher-end authoring programs allow for playlists as well.

[videobruger]

You can use DVDStyler (DVD -> Add -> File as chapter) to collect your files in one titleset and be able to use "next".

See also

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0jIx0dukXU

[Cornucopia]

Legit DVDs only allow max vid bitrate of 9.8Mbps and a total of all combined streams max bitrate of 10.08Mbps, so if you are combining max bitrate video with max bitrate Lpcm audio (1.5Mbps), you will exceed the limits and produce invalid titles. To fix this requires that you reencode either the video or audio or both.

Scott

[Noise]

Legit DVDs only allow max vid bitrate of 9.8Mbps and a total of all combined streams max bitrate of 10.08Mbps, so if you are combining max bitrate video with max bitrate Lpcm audio (1.5Mbps), you will exceed the limits and produce invalid titles. To fix this requires that you reencode either the video or audio or both.

Scott

Hello.
My DVD can ready. Some comercial DVD have high bitrate, i.e. Japanese pressed DVD.
My only problem is can skip between tracks.
Thank you!

[Noise]

You can use DVDStyler (DVD -> Add -> File as chapter) to collect your files in one titleset and be able to use "next".

See also

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0jIx0dukXU

I'll try this weekend.
Thank you.

[Noise]

Well to answer just part of your question, you can not mix PAL and NTSC on the same dvd.

Also, if your clips are stored in individual vob files, it is not possible to author a dvd where you can skip from one 'track' to another. All tracks must be in the same vob,or series of vobs (if larger than 1 gb) and then controlled through chapter points. the higher-end authoring programs allow for playlists as well.

Thank you for the answer.

[manono]

My DVD can ready. Some comercial DVD have high bitrate, i.e. Japanese pressed DVD.

If they can, they aren't DVD-compliant. If they're DVD-compliant then they can't and whatever you're using to read the bitrate is wrong. cornucopia was correct in what he said and any decent authoring program will abort with underflows if you try to author videos where the video bitrate or the combined bitrates are too high.

[Noise]

My DVD can ready. Some comercial DVD have high bitrate, i.e. Japanese pressed DVD.

If they can, they aren't DVD-compliant. If they're DVD-compliant then they can't and whatever you're using to read the bitrate is wrong. cornucopia was correct in what he said and any decent authoring program will abort with underflows if you try to author videos where the video bitrate or the combined bitrates are too high.

Hello. Thanks for helping.
Can you please let me know how DVD can ready some pressed japanese video clipe DVD with video bitrate of 9800kb/s and LPCM audio?
MediaInfo show wrong information?
When I create a DVD-V with Womble, using only PAL or NTSC or when I create a DVD-V using Sony DVD Architect, my DVD can ready with 9800 video + 1536 audio.
I'm talking about Kenwood XXV-05.

[manono]

Ah, MediaInfo. It's showing you nothing. That 9800 is not the real figure, Run a VOB through Bitrate Viewer to get an idea of what it really is. Or open a VOB in DGIndex and run the Preview. If you have 1536 PCM WAV audio then I'll bet you the video max bitrate is not much higher than about 8000, if it's even that high.

When I create a DVD-V with Womble, using only PAL or NTSC or when I create a DVD-V using Sony DVD Architect, my DVD can ready with 9800 video + 1536 audio.

No. Stop talking nonsense.

[Noise]

Ah, MediaInfo. It's showing you nothing. That 9800 is not the real figure, Run a VOB through Bitrate Viewer to get an idea of what it really is. Or open a VOB in DGIndex and run the Preview. If you have 1536 PCM WAV audio then I'll bet you the video max bitrate is not much higher than about 8000, if it's even that high.

When I create a DVD-V with Womble, using only PAL or NTSC or when I create a DVD-V using Sony DVD Architect, my DVD can ready with 9800 video + 1536 audio.

No. Stop talking nonsense.

Here a log from Bitrate-Viewer:

Stream Type: MPEG2 Program
Profile: main@high
Frame Size: 720x480
Display Size: [not specified]
Aspect Ratio: 4:3 [2]
Frame Rate: 30.000000 fps
Video Type: NTSC
Frame Type: Progressive
Coding Type: I
Colorimetry: BT.470-2 B,G*
Frame Structure: Frame
Field Order: Bottom
Coded Number: 8367
Playback Number: 8367
Frame Repeats: 0
Field Repeats: 0
VOB ID: 0
Cell ID: 0
Bitrate: 9.800 Mbps
Bitrate (Avg): 9.799 Mbps
Bitrate (Max): 10.550 Mbps
Audio Stream: a0: PCM 48K 16bit 2ch
Timestamp: 0:04:39
Elapsed: 0:04:38
Remain: FINISH
FPS: 29.97
Info:

Plays fine on my player.

I'll make a video and put on youtube.

[manono]

Here a log from Bitrate-Viewer:

Wrong one. Your link leads to the Tecoltd Bitrate Viewer. There are, admittedly, two similar programs with the same name but my link above is to the one I meant, Bitrate Viewer. The one you used is not accurate for NTSC DVDs. Let me show you the differences. I opened the same VOB in both, one whose maximum bitrate I set at 9500. Compare average and maximum bitrates for the two.

[Noise]

Here a log from Bitrate-Viewer:

Wrong one. Your link leads to the Tecoltd Bitrate Viewer. There are, admittedly, two similar programs with the same name but my link above is to the one I meant, Bitrate Viewer. The one you used is not accurate for NTSC DVDs. Let me show you the differences. I opened the same VOB in both, one whose maximum bitrate I set at 9500. Compare average and maximum bitrates for the two.

My bad... I put link to wrong software.
Here a print screen from the correct one:

[manono]

Well, if that one has PCM audio, then I have to eat my words. But it's non-compliant and you shouldn't try and copy things like that.

You might try something to prove it to yourself. First, demux it into the video and audio. DGIndex can do that (Save Project and Demux Video). Or PGCDemux can demux it with the IFO as a source. Then try to reauthor it using Muxman which is strict about DVD compliance.