VHS Anime to XVID

[user10495]

Hi,
About a year ago, I posted a subject concerning converting VHS anime to DVDs (MPEG-2).
Today I wanted to talk about the same stuff, just different hardware and encoding to XVID at 700 MB now.
I encoded a video in XVID format and came out 2 GB, a little too large, because I want to upload
46 episodes each 20 mins long for a torrent.

I'm currently using:

JVC HR-S9600U VCR
Canopus ADVC 110 Capture Device
VirtualDub
Neatvideo plugin (I have the full version)
XVID Encoder
Flac Encoder

The question is, how can I get the highest quality rip with all these?
How can I get a 700 MB XVID encode at best quality?
Should I use the sharpen function on my VCR?

Any help, would help.

[user10495]

anyone know what to do with the VCR settings?

I have:

Video Calibration - On
Picture Control - Auto
Auto Timer - Off
Superimpose - On
Auto SP ->Ep Timer - Off
Digital R3 - On
Video Stabilizer - On
2nd Audio Record - Off
Audio Monitor - Hi-Fi
S-VHS Mode - On
AV Compu-Link - On
Time-Scan Audio - On
Front Aux Input - Video
Rear Aux Input - Video
CA Record - Off
CA Playback - Off

[user10495]

here are some PNGs from the raw capture:

[user10495]

18 secs of the raw capture.
let me know if its too short.
should take 50 secs to download.

http://www.mediafire.com/download/kmd3zamudf4j9py/sample.rar

[manono]

The question is, how can I get the highest quality rip with all these?

Not by using the obsolete XviD codec.

How can I get a 700 MB XVID encode at best quality?

See above. Use x264 with AAC audio in an MP4 or MKV container.

I encoded a video in XVID format and came out 2 GB

Then you assigned it the bitrate to make it that size. Lower the bitrate and you'll get a smaller size.

I take it you're not using AviSynth filters? And you're not IVTCing it back to 23.976fps?

[user10495]

The video is a raw capture.
I'm not using any filters atm.
I don't know what you mean by
"IVTCing it back to 23.976fps? "

[manono]

I don't know what you mean by
"IVTCing it back to 23.976fps? "

If you work with anime you should.

I've had a look at the sample now. It's blended all to hell and back. I don't know how to treat it. You didn't have the noise reduction on, did you, when you captured?

[user10495]

The video is a raw capture. I didn't specify any noise reductions.

The noise reduction if any would be from the VCR.

I have the VCR specifications listed above.

Any ideas what I should do?

[user10495]

what do you mean by blended?

[manono]

The JVCs have the TBC tied in with the digital noise reduction. You can't use the one without getting the other. I was wondering if the blending (ghosts/double images) might have occurred because you had it on. Others will know better than I as I use Panasonics.

Oh, the audio was capped at the wrong sample rate. It should have been at 48kHz, and not 32. That's something to be corrected in your ADVC box. The ADVC's use 32000Hz as the default, for some stupid reason.

[user10495]

is there any hope for the video I uploaded?

[manono]

is there any hope for the video I uploaded?

Yadif(Mode=1)#or the better QTGMC
Srestore(FRate=23.976)

That's about the best I can do with it and it looks okay except when there's a lot of movement. But since you don't know any AviSynth...

What have you been doing after capturing it? Nothing? Deinterlacing it? You know it's interlaced, right?

If it's out on DVD I'd suggest getting those and forget about making this VHS crap available to the world.

[user10495]

the series is VHS only.
I actually had to buy 23 tapes for the entire series.

I haven't really deinterlaced the video because
previously I was told to leave the interlacing alone.

atm I'm using VDub filters,
But I can use AviSynth as well, I'm just not used to it.

nulltransform - Crop: X1 - 4, X2 - 8, Y2 - 8
neatvideo
unsharp
MSU smart deblocking
resize - 640 x 480

so I guess I should do this all in AviSynth, except for the neatvideo?
what else should I have for the filters?

[user10495]

got your avisynth to work.

[user10495]

is the sharp function on AviSynth recommended over the unsharp mask in virtualdub filters?

[jagabo]

There's too much blending. I'd skip the IVTC and deblending and smart bob to 59.94 fields per second instead.

[user10495]

can you give me a script example for setting up the smart bob in avisynth or virtualdub?

[user10495]

is this good enough, what else am I missing, I didn't understand how to smart bob the video

Load_Stdcall_plugin("C:\Program Files (x86)\AviSynth 2.5\plugins\yadif.dll")
directshowsource("1.avi")
Yadif(Mode=1)#or the better QTGMC
Srestore(FRate=23.976)
ConvertToRGB32()
LoadVirtualDubPlugin("C:\Program Files (x86)\VirtualDub-1.10.4\plugins32\NeatVideo.vdf", "NeatVideo", 3)
NeatVideo("C:\AVS\SampleProfile.dnp", "C:\AVS\SamplePreset.nfp", "1.0", "3", "1", "0")
Unsharp(varY=1.5, varC=1.5, strength=0.7, border=4, integrate=false, Y=3, U=2, V=2, gfunc=-1, gfuncc=-1, pcr=0, pcrc=0, nthreads=1)
Crop(4,0,-8,-8).BicubicResize(640,480)

[manono]

can you give me a script example for setting up the smart bob in avisynth or virtualdub?

The first part of the script I provided bobs the video (doubles the framerate):

Yadif(Mode=1)#or the better QTGMC

I wouldn't use DirectShowSource if I were you, but the better AVISource for your DV AVI captures. Get the Cedocida Codec if you need it for DV AVI.

[user10495]

ok thanks I will sort that out,

I encoded in x264 in VDub and out comes an uplayable file.
Does anyone know what I'm doing wrong.
I get 3 files, avi, .stats .stats.mbtree

[jagabo]

I encoded in x264 in VDub and out comes an uplayable file.
Does anyone know what I'm doing wrong.
I get 3 files, avi, .stats .stats.mbtree

You ran only the first pass of a 2-pass encode.

[user10495]

I got everything else to work.

But when I capture, the VHS audio keeps skipping.
Is there any way around this?

I read guides, turned off antivirus and left the computer alone
during captures but it didn't make one difference.

[manono]

But when I capture, the VHS audio keeps skipping.

What does 'skipping' mean? That you're dropping frames? You might try WinDV to capture, rather than VDub. And make a CTRL-Alt-Delete and close down anything not needed during capping. While having an active anti-virus program open during capping can cause the 'skipping', there are other programs as well. I discovered that having Plex open while capping might cause dropped frames as it 'calls home' periodically and checks the movies and TV programs on my hard drive. Maybe check what opens at start up (msconfig.exe) and make sure nothing starts that you don't want to start. Maybe defrag your hard drive also.

[user10495]

by 'skipping' I mean static noise, is I think what it is.
I didn't have this problem a few days ago but it comes and goes.
Not sure how to capture without the extra sound.

Also the video jumps up and down and I believe there is something
to do with it.

I defragmented the HD but I still get the same problem.

[newpball]

Hi,
About a year ago, I posted a subject concerning converting VHS anime to DVDs (MPEG-2).
Today I wanted to talk about the same stuff, just different hardware and encoding to XVID at 700 MB now.
I encoded a video in XVID format and came out 2 GB, a little too large, because I want to upload
46 episodes each 20 mins long for a torrent.

I'm currently using:

JVC HR-S9600U VCR
Canopus ADVC 110 Capture Device
VirtualDub
Neatvideo plugin (I have the full version)
XVID Encoder
Flac Encoder

The question is, how can I get the highest quality rip with all these?
How can I get a 700 MB XVID encode at best quality?
Should I use the sharpen function on my VCR?

Any help, would help.

Why XVID?

For the same file size H.264 should do a much better job.

[jman98]

Instead of FLAC can you try using WAV or PCM (the same thing, but you may only see one name in your setup so I'm listing both names)? Maybe your sound problems are being caused by trying to do FLAC. If you can get the encodes working correctly with WAV audio we can help you get the audio to FLAC after the fact if you want.

[user10495]

heres a sample to for the audio.
it makes a skipping sound at 6 sec 11 sec and so forth.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/d4qhjvx7zoavy0t/sample2.rar?dl=0

I'm doing raw captures in PCM at the moment and no difference.
I defragged my HD and turned everything off and captured last night to no avail.

I even tried capturing with another standard brand new vcr and the noise issue　was even worse.
I'm starting to think it has something top do with the capture device　or the computer.　
the capture device is plugged into its own AC adapter, so power probably isn't the issue.

[manono]

Dropbox. No thanks. You are using an ADVC box so you should be capping as DV AVI and not performing a conversion while capping. Once again I suggest capping using WinDV and in 48kHz WAV audio.

[jagabo]

Yes, you should not be recompressing the video and compressing the audio while capturing. Capture as DV AVI with WinDV. That is nearly foolproof. And it gives you an exact copy of the audio and video that's coming from the ADVC 110 (just wrapped in an AVI container). Convert to your final form later.

[user10495]

The problem is, I'm not recompressing the file as I capture,
the videos I get are all raw captures.

heres a sample of the audio at mediafire.

http://www.mediafire.com/download/s99xg871rg778xo/sample2.zip

It makes a crackling noise at 6sec 11 sec and so forth.


I tried raw capturing in WinDV and it still makes the skipping sound.




Here's what media info gives after I capture:

General
Complete name : C:\Users\user\Desktop\1.avi.15-03-10_18-22.00.avi
Format : AVI
Format/Info : Audio Video Interleave
Commercial name : DV
Format profile : OpenDML
File size : 2.66 GiB
Duration : 12mn 30s
Overall bit rate mode : Constant
Overall bit rate : 30.5 Mbps

Video
ID : 0
Format : DV
Codec ID : dvsd
Codec ID/Hint : Sony
Duration : 12mn 30s
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 24.4 Mbps
Encoded bit rate : 28.8 Mbps
Width : 720 pixels
Height : 480 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 4:3
Frame rate mode : Constant
Frame rate : 29.970 fps
Standard : NTSC
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:1:1
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Interlaced
Scan order : Bottom Field First
Compression mode : Lossy
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 2.357
Time code of first frame : 07:32:55;14
Time code source : Subcode time code
Stream size : 2.51 GiB (94%)

Audio
ID : 1
Format : PCM
Format settings, Endianness : Little
Format settings, Sign : Signed
Codec ID : 1
Duration : 12mn 30s
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 1 536 Kbps
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Bit depth : 16 bits
Stream size : 137 MiB (5%)
Alignment : Aligned on interleaves
Interleave, duration : 33 ms (1.00 video frame)
Interleave, preload duration : 33 ms