Sound source & vol in MMC7.6

[rtijerino]

Does anyone knows how to change the source or the volume when capturing with AIW 128 pro and SoundBlaster Live in MMC7.6. I can not seem to find it any more. The source used to be in the TV app but I dont see it.

All my captures have a very high volume. Side question: After capturing with MMC7.6 (Great captures, I used to drop frames, but not anymore) I would like to change the volume. Is it possible? or do I need to recapture with new settings?

Thanks in advance

[Greg12]

You can change the bitrate by re-encoding, but the volume is determined by your speakers usually.

[rtijerino]

Yeah, but when I burn and play the VCD in my standalone DVD player, the volume is so high I can only change the volume to <1 in order enjoy.

[Bud]

Having the same problem with sound, I have done all the standard checks on the system sound setting, Line-In/Vol/ etc....when played back or burned to disk, the sound is way to loud. Tried changing the Cap setting, still have the problem, use the standard VCd/SVCD/XVCD etc. even AVi ......MMC7.6

Bud

[Sulik]

You can use the audio mixer icon on the taskbar-> open the recording volume controls, and change the volume of the input while MMC is recording.

[rtijerino]

been there done that! Any other suggestions?

[tjdmobile]

I am glad that someone brought this up. I don't like having to adjust the volume manually EVERY time I reboot. The volume must be internally set by MMC, because it resets the volumes each time it loads.

I will hunt around in the registry when I get home. I will also check any .ini files. Has to be in there somewhere.

TJD

[Mirror_Image]

Bingo on the registry!

I had a similar problem with MMC 7.6, but my problem was that the record level was too low in my case, and if I set the line-in record level where I wanted it, it would reset the line-in rec level (too low) next time I started the TV (every other part of MMC 7.6 did not mess with the record level like the TV app did).

I took a capture file and demuxed it, pulled the wav into a wave editor, and it wasn't clipped at all, so recording at max volume didn't distort.

I opened regedit, poked around, and this is what you want (in Win98SE on this particular PC):

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\ATI Technologies\Multimedia\Features\TV\Sound]
"SAP Mode"=dword:00000000
"Mute"=dword:00000000
"Volume"=dword:000003e8
"AudioIn"=dword:00000001
"Record Volume"=dword:000003e8
"IsFirstRun"=dword:00000000

Now, in regedit, the value for "Record Volume" ranges from 0-1000 (1000 is max record level) in decimal format, which corresponds to 3e8 in hex. Move this up (higher) or down (lower) in steps of, let's say 100 (decimal format) until you like where it is. Set it here, and it will stay where you want it. Mine was set at 850 (in decimal) and that's where it would set the line-in record level slider without fail, every time I started the TV part of MMC. I set it to 1000 as shown above, and it stays where I put it! Problem retired.

I was happy to squash this little annoyance, because it was the only problem I have had with MMC 7.6, and now I'm a happy camper.

Anyway, you'd set "Volume" the same way as I set my "Record Volume".

STANDARD DISCLAIMER RE: REGEDIT

As always, back up your registry before editing it, and don't mess around in there unless you feel comfortable doing so (if you edit the wrong value you might make your PC a real weekend project).

[leebo]

Hmm...
My VCR captures do seem distorted. I was wondering about that.

Hey Mirror, do you use the TV on Demand feature much?
How is it working for you?

I have a Tbird 1200mhz capturing to a seperate hard drive, and TV on Demand sucks.

Strobing picture, scan gets stuck after 90 minutes or so...

[MikeV]

I have an AIW 128 Pro also and had the same problem when recording. Here is how I fixed it.

1. Double click your volume control.
2. Click options.
3. Click Properties
4. Under adjust volume for click on recording
5. Make sure under Show the following volume controls: You have the correct box marked for the input you are using I use line in so I have the following checked: Recording Control, Line-in, and CD Player
6. Once set click OK
7. You should now have the Recording Control panel
8. Make sure your input is checked(check mark in select box)
9. Now adjust the volume as needed( mine is two clicks up from the bottom for good input volume)
10. Close out your record control and it will save the settings.

It took me about 6 trial recordings to get it set correctly and it stays there everytime I turn on the computer.

[Fred©]

Hey Mirror Image,

I dont know computing, so, could you please give some hexadecimals number to try?

Like 100, 200, 300, 400, 500, 600, 700, 800, 900. (1000 I already know that is 3e8 )

Thaks,

Fred©

[yg1968]

I am a bit off topic but I was wondering how you managed to install MMC 7.6 for an AIW 128 pro card. I have an AIW 128 (16 bit) but cannot get MMC 7.6 to work on my computer (the TV program freezes after I install it). I have also tried to update the driver to the newest driver display driver (wmer1284137192) but could not get it to work either. (I have a Sony Vaio, AMD Athlon 1Ghz). Any tips on getting MMC 7.6 to work for the AIW 128 Pro?

[yg1968]

I forgot to mention that I am using Windows ME.

[Fred©]

Mine is also an ATI AIW 128 Pro...

MMC 7.6 needs DirectX 8.1 and Windows Media Player 7.1 installed to work properly.

I still use the driver that came with MMC 7.1. I use Windows 98 ( I had winMe, but downgraded because some instability with MMC...)

Fred©

[Mirror_Image]

Hey Mirror, do you use the TV on Demand feature much?
How is it working for you?

That is the one feature I have never used! I actually don't have any need for it, but I should mess around with it to see if I come across any of those headaches.

I dont know computing, so, could you please give some hexadecimals number to try?

Like 100, 200, 300, 400, 500, 600, 700, 800, 900. (1000 I already know that is 3e8)

Regedit lets you enter the values in decimal or hex; just right-click that line, choose "modify", select "decimal" and type in the number and it converts it to hex for you.

[yg1968]

Fred,

Would upgrading to Windows XP work?

Thanks

[Fred©]

I am sorry I cannot respond you because I do not have or use winXP...

Fred©

[yg1968]

I just upgraded to Windows XP and the MMC 7.6 TV and VCR now work. I didn't need to do anything special. I installed ATI's latest driver for the AIW 128 pro, rebooted and intstalled MMC 7.6. (I had already uninstalled MMC 7.1 before upgrading). It now works. . I guess Windows ME was the problem.

[energy80s]

To adjust the sound level for MMC captures, use the Windows Mixer Controls set on RECORD. This is NOT the Windows default! Once this has been set, Windows will remember it for the next time you use the TV capture app. One thing to consider though is that the audio input level of your sound card could be lower than the audio output of your video/sat receiver/etc. In that case no matter how low you set the audio level in the mixer app, it sound will still be distorted. To cure this you will need to attenuate the sound before it hits your sound card - run it through an external mixer. This is what I have to do.

To get your final sound level up to a mean level, use the audio edit facility of TMPGenc and normalise the sound up to 99%. This will give a full dynamic range without introducing distortion.

[Bud]

MikeV

Have the same sound problems with MMC 7.6, looked at the Record Settings checked the block, only problem, when I start recording with MMC it resets back to the HIGH recording. Will not stay set on the proper level running WIN98ME

Bud

[energy80s]

"running WINME" I think you've found your problem right there!

WinME is the second worst operating system of all time (after Win95 OSR1). Either go to Win98SE or WinXP.

Also, what sound card do you have? Creative's Live range are crap and will cause all sorts of sound problems! Now, since they released the Audigy range even Creative Labs have said the Live range don't work properly!!

[Mirror_Image]

Have the same sound problems with MMC 7.6, looked at the Record Settings checked the block, only problem, when I start recording with MMC it resets back to the HIGH recording. Will not stay set on the proper level running WIN98ME

Have you tried that tiny registry edit? (refer to my earlier post in this same thread)

[MikeV]

I only use WIN 98 and WIN2000 Pro. On both, the levels stay where I set them. Sounds like a bad OS load, or flakey OS( remember DOS 4.0?)

[diveboy]

I use win 2000 pro with an ati aiw 128pro 32mb agp

and I have the same sound problem, haven't tried the reg fix for it yet but will give it ago.

I have used tempgenc to normalize while encoding it down to svcd/vcd.

Can anyone tell me if this makes the conversion longer ?

if it only adds 1 minute, then I'll just do that. otherwise I'll fix the reg.

[energy80s]

No it doesn't add much extra time to the encode. In fact it actually works out the amplification ratio BEFORE you start your encode. Should only take a couple of minutes for a complete film. The default normalisation value in TMPGenc is 75%, but you should boost this up to 99% as this will make better use of the 16 bit audio recording used in MPEG1 Layer 2 audio. It also gives better signal to noise ratios on TV/Hi-Fi gear.