ImgBurn warning on DL ISO: what is the fix ?

[Seeker47]

My first inclination was to extract the ISO to HDD, then make appropriate adjustments to resolve this error. But, what are those adjustments ? If it was just a matter of the size, I would run it through DVD-RB. But the ISO is only 6.6 Gb., so that shouldn't be any problem for DVD-9, and accommodating the layer break. I'm hoping the solution may be more accessible (something like Fix-VTS ?), rather than having this become some major job. I had been expecting this puppy was ready to burn . . . .

Alternately, it would suit me just as well to split this off to two DVD-5's, so long as I can then burn them and have them be playable on a standard hardware player.

[Cornucopia]

Just to be absolutely sure, I wouldn't try just any simple fix, I'd reauthor.

So, you'll need to rip the contents to HDD and convert the VOBs to MPG (hopefully it might all be one title/file when converted). Those are your new source assets now.

Then re-author using a known good authoring tool (one that doesn't mess up layer breaks). Then burn (either with Imgburn or the tool that comes with your authoring app).

Scott

(I didn't go into detail, because I trust you are knowledgeable enough from your history to be able to figure out the steps - let me know though if you need more help)

[jman98]

Well, it may actually be possible to fix this in a different, quicker way. I'm not saying that for 100% certainty this will work, but it might.

Mount the ISO with Daemon Tools or something similar. Rip it in File mode with DVD Decrypter to your hard drive. Use PgcEdit to create a new ISO image from the ripped directory with a break point it lets you set. If PgcEdit can't find a layer break, you'll have to reauthor.

The error message as such is not clear to me that it's truly impossible to find ANY cell to serve as a layer break so much as the current ISO isn't set up in a way to do. However, I may be misunderstanding it and it may indeed require reauthoring to fix.

[LIGHTNING UK!]

Easier still, mount the ISO in whatever and just point ImgBurn's 'Build' mode at the virtual drive.

You can't move (pad) stuff when it's in an ISO, hence why you'll see this error more frequently when working with ISO files rather than the raw VIDEO_TS folder.

[jman98]

Do what LIGHTNING UK! said to do.

[Seeker47]

Easier still, mount the ISO in whatever and just point ImgBurn's 'Build' mode at the virtual drive.

You can't move (pad) stuff when it's in an ISO, hence why you'll see this error more frequently when working with ISO files rather than the raw VIDEO_TS folder.

Thanks, man ! So glad you still drop in here from time to time. (I'm aware of your forum . . . but I tend to hang out over here.)

When I have to do something with an ISO other than try to burn it, I'm likely to take it back to VIDEO_TS etc. first with an app like UltraISO. As to the mounting programs, I have the one from Nero, the one from Slysoft, and most of the other free ones. (Bailed on Daemon Tools around v. 4, after Adware and other warnings began to circulate.) But I've never really used any of them, so I'll need to get familiar with one of them -- preferably the one that's simplest to set up and use.

[LIGHTNING UK!]

Virtual CloneDrive will work fine, I use it too.

[Seeker47]

Virtual CloneDrive will work fine, I use it too.

I discovered that the Nero virtual drive program was discontinued -- somewhere around Nero 8 or 9 -- and is said to be not an option for Win 7 or 64 bit. But there are a bunch of these around that happen to be free: MagicDisc, and even a portable version of WinCDEmulator among them. I realized that I already had ISO Toolkit installed

http://www.askvg.com/iso-toolkit-freeware-to-create-convert-copy-and-extract-iso-image-files/

which looks like a promising suite (not an ISO editor, though), so I used that. It all worked out as you said.

ImgBurn remains the indispensable, 'Go To' program of its kind, though, and we are all in frequent appreciation that you created it !

[jman98]

Some of the adware warnings on programs are completely overblown. There are ways to install Daemon Tools that various sources say will not install adware. But each person has to do what he/she is comfortable with.

[ogk]

1. extract the ISO to folder on HDD
2. start ImgBurn, select "Create image file from file/folders"
Point ImgBurn to folder containing extracted DVD
3. ImgBurn will ask then for layer breaks position before creating image
File with extention .mds will be created along with new .ISO
That .mds file has to be selected when doing "Write image file to disc" option

[mazinz]

Hey Seeker47,
one thing to keep in mind and I have come across this very often-- most people do not know how to make a standard dual layer disc to begin with. Many of them have no spots for layer break due to lack of cells or too close to the disc capacity or other issues by the disc creator. This also means if they burn these things (which obviously they do with other programs since imgburn will not let you do so without a nice warning), many of them are technically non standard because of that

In your case you may have a slight chance that it just needs more cells added (or larger ones split) to give more options so a layer break can be put in. Imgburn sometimes will also tell you a rough idea on where and what title set they should go. Programs like dvdremakepro (which allows you to do this) and I believe either vobblanker or pgc edit (which should allow it as well) can help you out if it does turn out you need more cells. Other than that most people here have already gave you good info on trying to rebuild and get the disc going

[Seeker47]

This also means if they burn these things (which obviously they do with other programs since imgburn will not let you do so without a nice warning), many of them are technically non standard because of that

In your case you may have a slight chance that it just needs more cells added (or larger ones split) to give more options so a layer break can be put in. Imgburn sometimes will also tell you a rough idea on where and what title set they should go. Programs like dvdremakepro (which allows you to do this) and I believe either vobblanker or pgc edit (which should allow it as well) can help you out if it does turn out you need more cells.

The job turned out fine. LIGHTNING UK"s suggestion (in Post #4 above) did the trick. I don't know exactly where someone must have gone wrong in creating that ISO, especially since 6.6 Gb should not have been enough to run out of cells / space for DL. (They had at least an extra 1.1 Gb. of space to play with.)

I myself have on more than a couple occasions goofed up and made a DL-ready job (not ISO, and most probably using AVStoDVD) a bit too large, with the result that ImgBurn just gave up, with that dreaded "Oh NO !!" In that case, I usually had to do it all over again, scaling back the total size.

In the case of material that you did not process yourself, which turn out to be Out-of-DVD-spec, am I correct in my surmise that Fix-VTS was never intended for DL, but only for SL ?

[mazinz]

This also means if they burn these things (which obviously they do with other programs since imgburn will not let you do so without a nice warning), many of them are technically non standard because of that

In your case you may have a slight chance that it just needs more cells added (or larger ones split) to give more options so a layer break can be put in. Imgburn sometimes will also tell you a rough idea on where and what title set they should go. Programs like dvdremakepro (which allows you to do this) and I believe either vobblanker or pgc edit (which should allow it as well) can help you out if it does turn out you need more cells.

The job turned out fine. LIGHTNING UK"s suggestion (in Post #4 above) did the trick. I don't know exactly where someone must have gone wrong in creating that ISO, especially since 6.6 Gb should not have been enough to run out of cells / space for DL. (They had at least an extra 1.1 Gb. of space to play with.)

I myself have on more than a couple occasions goofed up and made a DL-ready job (not ISO, and most probably using AVStoDVD) a bit too large, with the result that ImgBurn just gave up, with that dreaded "Oh NO !!" In that case, I usually had to do it all over again, scaling back the total size.

In the case of material that you did not process yourself, which turn out to be Out-of-DVD-spec, am I correct in my surmise that Fix-VTS was never intended for DL, but only for SL ?

ahh good, glad you got it going! With respect to the cells, sometimes it just needs more because of the spots of where the cells are on the disc. Example you have a full film with only 4 cells. The issue (lets say for this example) is that the layer break needs to go in the middle of cell 3 and 4, and that is then a problem and this would give you the "unsuitable spot for layer break" warning screen in imgburn. So always having a number of cells never hurts and only adds to help with layer placement

I could not answer your question about fixVTS. I know I used that program many years back when I was still using dvdshrink and it had encountered some issue or another that stopped processing. I had thought fixVTS was actually made with dvdshrink in mind? I can assume it should work for a DL disc but I can not verify it at all

[Seeker47]

I could not answer your question about fixVTS. I know I used that program many years back when I was still using dvdshrink and it had encountered some issue or another that stopped processing. I had thought fixVTS was actually made with dvdshrink in mind? I can assume it should work for a DL disc but I can not verify it at all

It's been quite awhile since I used it either. I do recall it having some strong connection to copy protection issues and backup, also to the use of Shrink or RI4M (which actually included it), but I seemed to recall that one of the things it was about was making the non-compliant compliant. There are a number of tools we forget about or tend to dismiss now -- like Shrink -- which in fact remain quite useful. For example, clip extraction is never gonna be any easier than it is by using the Re-Author function in Shrink. (Too bad we can't use it for Blu-Ray.)