DVD 3D Movie play back problem

[newnews]

hello,

I have problem with 3D movie playback. I hope someone can help. I bought vizio 3dtv and panasonic blueray 3d player. I can watch 3D blueray disc without problem. I also can watch 3D mkv/m2ts files playing by Asus O!play media player. However, I have two DVD-9 3D movie disc, I have tried the following:

1. Play the disc with 3D Bluerray player.
2. Play the disc with Asus media player(by connecting external USB DVD Drive to Asus O!PLAY).

The TV detects 3D signals(if TV does not detect 3D signals, the 3D menu will be grayed out), then I select between SBS, Top/bottom and Sensorio, none of them will work.

How to properly play the disc? How to tell what kind of 3D is used?

[aedipuss]

is this a guessing game show? how are we to know what was used on movies at your house? read the dvd case maybe? but there was never a standard dvd 3d format, so whatever have is anaglyph, sbs/ou, or field sequential.

[Cornucopia]

You're going to have to get more specific with the details, including uploading MediaInfo exports and/or un-converted clip excerpts, for us to be able to tell you more about your specific problem.

as aedipuss said, hard to tell since there is no "standard" when it comes to 3D on DVDs. Are these even store-bought discs (or are they Rip-&-Shrink conversions)? Could be Sbs, T/B, Interlaced, Sensio, etc...

Scott

[newnews]

Thanks for the reply. I have attached mediainfo file here.

[Cornucopia]

OK, so it seems there is literally NOTHING unusual about the DVD video titles. However, knowing which 3D layout format was used is impossible to tell from a MediaInfo text. It also is unlikely to know from that whether it is a rip/conversion or a store-bought original. Can you give us a screen cap pic or 2 from WMP?

Scott

[newnews]

Hello, Scott:

The screenshots attached. The DISC looks like it was converted from BD to DVD9, there is one red/blue glasses attached

[addu]

So the disc is anaglyph. There is nothing u need to tell ur tv to switch just watch like u r watching as a 2d but don't forget to wear those anaglyph glasses to enjoy those poor resolution 3d-dvd's.

[jman98]

Basically what addu said.

I think (best guess as I've never seen the film) this is "The Polar Express". It was released on DVD in anaglyph format. I think you will need to treat this as a 2D movie for playback and be sure to wear the red and blue glasses to watch this on your TV.

[jman98]

By the way, the DVD standard doesn't support any kind of 3D except anaglyph. Anaglyph is old technology that enables non-3D TVs to display 3D images.

[newnews]

So the disc is anaglyph. There is nothing u need to tell ur tv to switch just watch like u r watching as a 2d but don't forget to wear those anaglyph glasses to enjoy those poor resolution 3d-dvd's.

That is first thing I tried, unfortunately it does not work. I wonder if there is a way to convert it to new 3D format so I can watch, i.e. 3D anaglyph to 3D SBS conversion.

[Cornucopia]

No, not and maintain any kind of quality. Have not looked at the clip yet, but if it is truly Polar Express, just go out and buy the 3D blu-ray.

Scott

[aedipuss]

it's not one of the better 3d attempts anyway.

[jman98]

So the disc is anaglyph. There is nothing u need to tell ur tv to switch just watch like u r watching as a 2d but don't forget to wear those anaglyph glasses to enjoy those poor resolution 3d-dvd's.

That is first thing I tried, unfortunately it does not work. I wonder if there is a way to convert it to new 3D format so I can watch, i.e. 3D anaglyph to 3D SBS conversion.

OK. I just did a quick test with my equipment. Here's what I found out using an anaglyph DVD I have of an old 1950s SciFi movie ("Gog").

You CANNOT play your anaglyph DVD on ANYTHING that understands how to play 3D movies. Period. CANNOT.

Your 3D BluRay player sounds like mine (Samsung). Mine detects the anaglyph and essentially freaks out, trying to display it in SBS mode, which won't work. I get nothing but a black screen while the disc is playing (I can see the time counter increment). There's NOTHING at all I can do on the player to get a viewable image.

My old DVD player plays the disc fine. No problems. Red/blue glasses are needed as expected and work fine.

Sounds like your Asus player may understand enough about 3D that it simply can't handle the anaglyph correctly. You will need a true DVD player or a streaming media player that does not understand 3D (ie. a Western Digital player) to have any hope of playing this. I keep a true DVD player around because I use it on DVDs to keep the wear and tear down on my BluRay player.

[jman98]

By the way, I'm sure that a follow up post will tell us that someone has a brand X 3D BluRay player and it handles anaglyph DVDs fine. I'm sure it really does. But mine doesn't and yours doesn't. I told you what will work.

[Cornucopia]

So the disc is anaglyph. There is nothing u need to tell ur tv to switch just watch like u r watching as a 2d but don't forget to wear those anaglyph glasses to enjoy those poor resolution 3d-dvd's.

That is first thing I tried, unfortunately it does not work. I wonder if there is a way to convert it to new 3D format so I can watch, i.e. 3D anaglyph to 3D SBS conversion.

OK. I just did a quick test with my equipment. Here's what I found out using an anaglyph DVD I have of an old 1950s SciFi movie ("Gog").

You CANNOT play your anaglyph DVD on ANYTHING that understands how to play 3D movies. Period. CANNOT.

Your 3D BluRay player sounds like mine (Samsung). Mine detects the anaglyph and essentially freaks out, trying to display it in SBS mode, which won't work. I get nothing but a black screen while the disc is playing (I can see the time counter increment). There's NOTHING at all I can do on the player to get a viewable image.

My old DVD player plays the disc fine. No problems. Red/blue glasses are needed as expected and work fine.

Sounds like your Asus player may understand enough about 3D that it simply can't handle the anaglyph correctly. You will need a true DVD player or a streaming media player that does not understand 3D (ie. a Western Digital player) to have any hope of playing this. I keep a true DVD player around because I use it on DVDs to keep the wear and tear down on my BluRay player.

Don't know what Twilight Zone you fell into there, but for the rest of us, ANAGLYPH - while it may have come from 2 different views and be intended for stereoscopic enjoyment - is when all is said and done, a type of composited 2D imagery. The only thing that restores the 3D features are the complementary & appropriate anaglyph lenses/filters. For all intents & purposes, these are standard 2d images that can be played and viewed on every piece of equipment out there (even if incorrectly). I find it ludicrous to think you want us to believe that some players will "freak out" when given an anaglyph signal. The colors may not look right (very common, even with the best systems), the contrast may be reduced, but it never stops it from being played & displayed. That's why it's so useful as the lowest common denominator.

Now, of course, NO 3D-aware equipment will consider this to be a form of 3D, and so it shouldn't. There is nothing about the signal which tells a 3D player it might be 3D (nor is there ever any device that would convert in realtime from anaglyph to one of the newer, more popular forms of 3d). It should play it in 2D just like every OTHER 2D movie out there. Can your 3D equipment not play 2D movies? If so, I'd like to know which models so we can all be forewarned which ones to avoid. Don't mean to be sounding sarcastic, but maybe you were just expecting too much.

Scott

[newnews]

Thanks. I just throw away those discs.