I have started backing up my BDs. I use DVDFabHD decrypter to rip them to my HDD. Then I use BD Rebuilder. First backing up movies I used the movies only setting ripping to BD5's. Every one worked perfectly and played fine on my Panasonic BD 65 player.
Now I am trying to back up TV shows. My first try is Deadwood, and since I knew of no way to back up only the episodes I wanted (see previous post), I decided to use the full disc setting and see what they looked like. I decided to try both a BD9 and BD5 to compare the quality. Last evening BD Rebuilder recoded to both those settings, and this morning I burned the DVDs with Imageburn.
The problem is that neither disc is recognized by my BD player. Both give the message "format not recognized." The problem cannot be just the BD player because trying them after in my computer PowerDVD could not play the discs either.
I can open them in explorer. The BDMV and certificate folders are there. I can also play any of the streams with VLC player. Obviously this must be an issue with the disc architecture. Can anyone tell me what I am doing wrong? I use the exact same settings in BD Rebuilder and Imageburn that I used previously. The only difference this time was burning on BD9 (dual layer DVD+DL Verbatim disc) for one of the comparison discs.
One thing I should mention is that in the settings for BD Rebuilder I do have "strict AVCHD for BD5/9 movie only" checked. Should this be unchecked when doing a whole movie?
Thanks.
SMK
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I don't have that player, but here are a few observations:
1) Strict AVCHD in BDRB applies to movie-only, if you do full disc, that setting will not be used and is irrelevant. Leave it checked, it does no harm when doing full disc.
2) Some players will play AVCHD, but not full-disc BD5/9, meaning you may be stuck with movie only on that player. Perhaps someone will confirm what discs that particular model will play. And just to be sure the backups are good, try the discs on another player that is known to play full disc BD5/9.
3) It's possible a newer firmware may allow you to play full disc, but it's a crapshoot. On occasion, firmware updates have been reported to *remove* functionality, rather than add to it. To find out before trying it, you'll have to do some searching.
4) I wouldn't rely on what PowerDVD does or does not play to verify if a disc is good. I have v.8, and uninstalled it. Each succeeding version has become less and less usable, if you can believe the reports. TMT or TME would be much better. IIRC, PowerDVD would not play one of my first full-disc episode disc backups (Band of Brothers). TME (Digital Theater), OTOH, did, as did my standalone players.
It's not that difficult to extract episodes and join them so they will play on a standalone that won't play full disc BD5/9. You identify an episode by its playlist file with BDinfo, and extract each episode separately with tsMuxer or Clown_BD. Then you join them in tsMuxer and output to AVCHD. They will play in sequence with no menu, of course. Adjusting chapter timings is the only thing about that method that's a real pain in the butt.
Good luck.Last edited by fritzi93; 26th Jun 2011 at 10:31.
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Well, I appreciate your help, but I am very sorry to hear that the problem may be with my <1 year-old BD player.
I have tried to figure out how to do what you've said using the other programs. Never having used any of them in the past and not finding any specific good guides to tsMuxer or Clown_BD, I am not sure what I will do.
I did try BDinfo and saw that it will give me a list of everything in the files, but is there any way to know which episode is which using BDinfo? It seems I can get the same information from DBDFabHD. If you go to the "movie only" pane, it also lists all the files. It has the option of also giving you a preview. At least then I can try to see which play list corresponds to which episode. I am also assuming (which may well be incorrect) that the first one is the first episode, and so on.
I am in the process of ripping each episode separately in DVDFab, and then I will probably use BD Rebuilder in batch mode to recode them each for BD5. I will end up with a lot of discs, but at 20 cents a pop, it won't be too expensive. At least then I should be able to watch them all. The biggest issue will be making sure they are the correct episodes.
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If you use BDinfo to identify the playlist file (*.mpls), you can use MPCHC to open the playlist file and play the episode. That way you can easily and quickly identify each episode.
Standalone players vary as to whether they will play full disc on a BD5/9. By no means will all do so. All players however should play full disc on a BD25 (single-layer Blue-Ray blank), no problem. If you have a Blu-Ray writer, there's your solution.
I could elaborate on the method I outlined above if you'd like, but it will take some time for you with the learning curve. And adjusting chapter marks will be a job of work. I've used that method with complete success for a friend whose player won't play full disc BD5/9.
I'll do a little searching and see if I can find any mention as to whether your player can handle BD5/9 full disc.Last edited by fritzi93; 26th Jun 2011 at 15:11.
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My initial search doesn't look good for you. In the following list (which admittedly doesn't show your specific player), *NOT ONE* Panasonic is confirmed to play Full BD (full disc with menus) on BD5/9. Again, all players of whatever make should have no problem with BD25 full disc.:
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=146339&highlight=standalone+results
[EDIT] Couldn't find anything else, apart from the occasional reference at Doom9 to the page linked above, and the implication that Panasonics in general just won't do BD5/9 full disc. I'm not willing to put any more time into it, but I think there's your answer.Last edited by fritzi93; 26th Jun 2011 at 22:26.
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Fritzi, thank you for all your help. I don't expect you to do any more than you have which is way beyond the call of duty.
I just burned the first episode done the way I said. It works perfectly. As for matching up the episodes, since I have the original discs, in this case it is also just a matter of checking the burned episode with the actual BD. Not an issue, but I appreciate your help with BDInfo.
Now I have to decide if it is worth this hassle, or if I should look into a new BD player or a BD burner. Since BD discs have gotten cheaper, I may do the latter. For movies I still expect I will only copy the main movie. It is only TV shows where there are multiple episodes where I may do something different, and honestly, Deadwood may be the only TV show I want to make back-ups of.
Thanks again.
SMK
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