Problem with DVD+R's

[shoestrings201]

I've been recording some video game footage with my DVD recorder, so I could edit it on my computer and possibly upload it somewhere. I've been mostly using Sony's DVD-R's, but once I picked up some DVD+R's out of curiosity. This turned out to be a mistake. I have absolutely no prior experience with this kind of stuff, but what I've done is that I just directly copy the vob files to my harddrive, rename them, and then edit them with Corel Videostudio Pro X4. With regular DVD-R's, I've gotten decent results (even though I have to use Videostudio in a language I don't quite understand, and there's no way to change it for some bizarre reason).

I recently popped in one of the DVD+R's and attempted to do the same. However, the first thing I notice is that all the video files have been merged together (and then of course split into files that are max 1gb in size). That's not the main issue, though. The problem is that it's giving me really weird time values. It tells me that VTS_01_1 is only 58 seconds long (when in fact it's about 40 minutes). For VTS_01_4 it gives me a modest value of 25 hours, 36 minutes and 24 seconds. VTS_01_2 and 3, on the other hand, seem to be ok (about 30 min each). As if that wasn't weird enough, there are also exact copies of these four videos (VTS_02_1 to 4), giving the VIDEO_TS folder a total size of 7,17 gb (which shouldn't be possible as far as I know). When I check the disc properties, it just says 3,62 gb.

Ignoring the copies, I tried editing VTS_01_1, but couldn't get anything done. While I can play it past the 58 second mark, I can't edit it past that. Other programs treated it pretty much the same way. I tried doing a direct stream copy (or whatever you call it) of the DVD with VLC, but after slowly crunching its way through the videos and their copies, all it gave me was the first video in its original form (a 10 minute clip).

Playing the disc as a DVD movie shows all the videos as they should (about 12 videos in total). DVDFab was able to see them properly as well, but whenever I try to rip something, it crashes.

Oh, and the DVD recorder is by LG. I don't remember the exact model, but it's not that great. It has this issue where it keeps ejecting disc tray. Makes it a little difficult to get stuff off the harddrive, but sometimes it works, so I'll stick with it for the time being.

Uh... Yeah, sorry about the long post. I don't exactly know what I'm doing, so... Any help would be appreciated.

[DB83]

Whether it is DVD-R or DVD+R a disk recorded/dubbed in a video recorder in Video Mode will act look and act identical - look at 'What is DVD' at the left and if you do not have the exact folder/file structure that appears here then you do not have a dvd-video disk.

My guess is that you have used VR (editable in the recorder) mode and as far as I am aware you can not rip those in a conventional manner.

And as for having software in a language that you do not understand then no further comment is really neccessary.

[OldMan64]

Considering what DB83 said, then check the menu of the DVD recorder before recording the next movie sequence. Some DVD recorders do not treat a new disk the same as the previously used disk if the type is different (DVD+R vs DVD-R)

[shoestrings201]

Nah, I don't think it's using VR mode. The two folders found on the disc(s) are:
VIDEO_RM (with VIDEO_RM.bup, .dat, .ifo)
VIDEO_TS (with VTS_xx_x.vob, .bup, .ifo)

Apparently, the VIDEO_RM folder can sometimes cause some trouble, so, uh... Should I create an image of the disc without the RM folder and then redo it? I'm guessing I'll need Nero or something for that.

[OldMan64]

It might be good to see this:
https://forum.videohelp.com/threads/240474-Why-VIDEO_RM-folder?p=1755019&viewfull=1#post1755019
From an old thread, but seems to point to the problem DVD+R vs DVD-R and the way the DVDRecorder reacts.

[DB83]

If you have an _RM folder then you do NOT have a dvd-video disk. Did you see an _RM folder in the link I sent you to ?

Like you said, you do NOT know what you are doing and you certainly do NOT know what you are talking about.

To put this as clear as I can, you DO have a dvd-VR disk.

Removing that folder will be of no use whatsoever. You can try mpegstreamclip to extract the video from the disk. You will then have a standard mpeg2 video file and can author a standard dvd-video from that or an edited version of it.

[shoestrings201]

Okay, problem solved (more or less). I used DVD Decrypter in IFO mode.

So, it IS the VR thing. The thing is, I've never seen any mention of it in the menus on my DVD recorder.

Either way, thanks for the info.