frameserving dvd to premiere to avoid demuxing, is it possible?

[codemaster]

I need a method wich avoids demuxing of camcorder dvd's in order to edit them in Premiere Pro CS3, because this camcorder is inserting all recorded clips in the same PGC, and if I demux it, it will have sync issues, but the audio and video inside the original VOBs are somehow staying in perfect sync. If I encode to XviD with AutoGK, audio and video inside the resulted avi are also in sync, just like the original VOBs, and I think it's because AutoGK doesn't demux the video, only ac3 audio... and it does this without converting the video to an intermediary lossless and huge file... is there any way to do the same when importing in premiere, while avoiding any quality loss or color space conversions ?

premiere can import mpeg2, but I don't want to demux the mpeg2 stream (.m2v) because of the sync issues

also, I'm using DebugMode Framesever to export a signpost avi so that I can encode it to XviD using AutoGK, and I recently found out that Premiere outputs progressive frames, even though the source clips are interlaced, but that means I should always export a progressive signpost avi?

[poisondeathray]

and I think it's because AutoGK doesn't demux the video, only ac3 audio...

autogk is probably using avisynth, and if it is, it's probably demuxing with dgindex but using the delay information (when you demux , you demux both audio & video, that's the definition of demuxing)

you can frameserve into PP , with avisynth import plugin, but you need to know how to use avisynth and scripts . Or use avfs (need to know scripts as well). If you used the same one generated by gk or autogk you should get the same results
http://videoeditorskit.sourceforge.net/

http://www.turtlewar.org/avfs/
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=133313

while avoiding any quality loss or color space conversions ?

no quality loss from compression, but premiere works in RGB, so you will have minor quality loss from colorspace conversion (Unavoidable if you are using premiere or any NLE) . Even if you imported directly, you would still be using RGB, so it's unavoidable.

I don't know about debugmode for PP, it's unstable for me in CS4 and doesn't work in CS5 so I can't test it out. If it's deinterlacing, as rallymax suggested, definitely don't use it. Are you deinterlacing for xvid? or encoding interlaced ? Anyways there are way better deinterlacers in avisynth

Another option is to encode xvid directly out of premiere as well

[filmboss80]

You will find your editing workflow (and audio sync issues) will go smoother if you make sure all VOBs in a single titleset are merged as one. Sometimes sync loss occurs when you open the 2nd .vob (and beyond) of a titleset within an NLE, so use either VOB2MPG or VobMerge to combine your vobs together.

If you still encounter sync issues, consider opening your vob in VirtualDubMod and converting the audio stream to a PCM .wav file.

Also, are you aware that you can lock video and audio together in the Premiere timeline? You have lots of options, and there is usually a solution to everything.

[codemaster]

Another option is to encode xvid directly out of premiere as well

can Premiere encode in two passes with xvid ? Because I noticed that it renders all the frames only once, but with two pass it should reder twice...