MP3 Recording to CD Software

[SLK001]

I was wondering if there is any specialized software for creating a CD full of MP3s. I have been just recording them as data disks, but I want all of the "CD Text" to be imbedded on the CD. I haven't done too vigorous of a search and I was wondering what people here use to create their MP3 CDs.

I want to play the resulting disks on a player that shows the CD Text in the display.

[classfour]

CDex (free) has the ability - I typically use Nero Wave Editor (included with Nero) to get the audio levels right. It looks like you can also use Audacity to perform the same operations (typically volume increase) that I use Nero Wave Editor for - and it's free

[Noahtuck]

CDex (free) has the ability - I typically use Nero Wave Editor (included with Nero) to get the audio levels right. It looks like you can also use Audacity to perform the same operations (typically volume increase) that I use Nero Wave Editor for - and it's free

Huh ?

[V Bot]

Here's one I use:
Burn Aware (Free)
http://www.burnaware.com/burnaware_free.html

It supports Text

[byteguy]

You can either burn a 79 minute AUDIO CD that contains "2 channels of LPCM audio, each signed 16-bit values sampled at 44100 Hz" and supports CD-Text for CD players or a DATA-CD that contains MP3 files and may be readable by advanced players.

There isn't an option for CD-Text and data.

Support for "MP3 CDs" like you mention depend entirely on the player you're going to use them in. I can burn as much as I want and use 1by1 on my computer to play it but that same disk runs into trouble on my stereo system even though it says it supports MP3 CDs. My stereo limits me to far less total files than my computer does and doesn't display all the same information.

For data disks, the key is to make sure the MP3 files have all the identification tags populated (that's the same as the data you were seeing in your CD-Text display). MP3Tag is a great program for that. But, (there's always a but), you should check your player. My stereo warns me that too many tags and embedded artwork "may cause the time remaining display to be inaccurate."

Personally, I use MP3Tag to check/set the tags and then IMGBurn to make the data CD.

[drjtech]

I want to play the resulting disks on a player that shows the CD Text in the display.

I think that you actually "want to play the resulting disks on a player that shows the MP3 tags in the display".

Different players may have different tag related quirks, but most car mp3 players I have used work best with only ID3v1 tags rather than ID3v2 or ID3v1 & ID3v2.

You can make a test CD with variations of tag formats (OGG Vorbis, APE, ID3v1, ID3v2, etc.) to determine which tags appear best in your player of choice.

-drjtech

[SLK001]

I have another question. Often, on a CD, a track will seemlessly move to the next, with no dead time between the two tracks. Nero can do this by allowing the default "pause" of 2 seconds to be set to zero. Can this be done with an MP3?

My tests so far have been unsuccessful in this accord - there is always a pause between tracks - or I should say files, as these are being burned as data.

I know no other way, except to combine the files that require a seemless transition into a single file. Doing this, however, makes the MP3 tag kinda meaningless.

[V Bot]

Are you wanting to make a track fade into another or make every track fade into the next? Not sure if this will help, but I have used Audacity to create a cue sheet of a mix (Actual mix with no gaps between tracks, that I did), then burn with Nero with Disc At Once selected. I don't think I had luck with setting the gap to 0. I converted that to a huge mp3 file consisting of over 60 minutes of music. And you're right, tags are pointless at that point. At least for me. Google seamless cd ripping. Once you have the file ripped, you can convert. Someone here might know of an easier way. This is how I do it. Maybe look into DJ mixing programs, you can record the mix in some or use an independent recording program.

[SLK001]

Not fading at all. I'm talking about when a track segways seemlessly (without a pause) to the next track. Think Pink Floyd, Dark Side of the Moon. A lot of these tracks had zero pauses between them - the band played to the end of one song and segwayed into the next song. A lot of classical music is like this.

Nero will allow you to change the "pause" to zero, but this is part of the RED BOOK (CD Standard). As far as I know, there is no "book" defining burning MP3s onto a CD. I was hoping that there was and that there were programs that would burn to the standard (other than a data disk).

[hech54]

I have another question. Often, on a CD, a track will seemlessly move to the next, with no dead time between the two tracks. Nero can do this by allowing the default "pause" of 2 seconds to be set to zero. Can this be done with an MP3?

My tests so far have been unsuccessful in this accord - there is always a pause between tracks - or I should say files, as these are being burned as data.

I know no other way, except to combine the files that require a seemless transition into a single file. Doing this, however, makes the MP3 tag kinda meaningless.

Again....you are confusing/mixing aspects of audio CDs and a data cd full of MP3 files.
Pick one.

[V Bot]

I just recently bought that album as well as The Final Cut, sorry, I had to mention that. This weekend I watched my DVD of A Delicate Sound Of Thunder. Might still want to look into a DJ program as for the segue goes.

[SLK001]

Again....you are confusing/mixing aspects of audio CDs and a data cd full of MP3 files.
Pick one.

I'm not confusing them. I'm simply asking is there a way to burn MP3 files to a CD other than as data files. Apparently, there is not.

[aedipuss]

to have no pause in an mp3 album you need to use an audio editor and combine all the mp3s into one track. then burn the single mp3 file to cd.

or use something like cd architect to change the mp3s back to wavs and burn as a normal audio cd with no pause.

[SLK001]

to have no pause in an mp3 album you need to use an audio editor and combine all the mp3s into one track. then burn the single mp3 file to cd.

or use something like cd architect to change the mp3s back to wavs and burn as a normal audio cd with no pause.

Yes, apparently this is the only way to do this. But the MP3 tags are wrong (or you could change the title of the track to a combination of the two). The originals are wavs. I want to use MP3s to combine multiple CDs into one (for use in a vehicle CD/MP3 player).

So, I guess that I'll just burn the disks as "data".

[edsmith77]

Just to add my two cents. I have done exactly what the original poster wants and it works just fine up to the limit of files that the player will accept. That is burned any number of MP3 files to a CD (as a data disk) again up to the limit of the player. It also plays the tags in the MP3 files and there was no time delay between files. I used nero to create the data disk. I used MP3Tag to set the data.

The first time I did this I exceeded the file limit of my player and it would not play the disk. I found out the limit and reduced the number of MP3 files and have been happily enjoying my cd ever since.
OBTW, this was for an audio player in my car.

[SLK001]

The first time I did this I exceeded the file limit of my player and it would not play the disk.

What was your player's file limit?


I see reading my manual that the file limit is 255 for my player.

[Cornucopia]

There is a standard for AudioCds - The RED BOOK. CD-Text is an "Appendix" to this standard.

There is NO standard for MP3 Cds. They're just a conglomeration of files on a data disc.
Since there's no standard, there's very little continuity from one manufacturer & model to the next, as far as features and support.
One device might have no percievable gap, another might have 2-3 seconds' worth. Hard to tell (though there might be some similarity with chipset families). Same goes for MP3tag support - some might use filename only, some MP3v1, some MP3v2. Some will use those tags but truncate to a smaller length (say, 26 characters).
You just never know.

RED BOOK AudioCDs should not be considered like this. They really aren't "Data CDs" in the narrowest sense of the term. Yes, they happen to have digital data on them, but they don't operate the same. Think of all the audio tracks on a Redbook CD as being part of ONE, CONTINUOUS STREAM, with pointers to track start/end times.
But even redbook cd capabilities vary. If you were to play PF-DSOTM (as mentioned above) from beginning to end (A,B,C,D,E,F,G,H...), you would have a number of tracks that would have no glitches at the transition points.
However, if you played that same disc in that same player (or tried it in many players to compare) and PROGRAMMED in SHUFFLE mode the same sequence, some players would be ok and still be seamless, but others would have a momentary glitch at the transition point. This could be due to the play head having to relocate away and then back again, or due to a slowness in the internal electronics' logic.

Final upshot here is:
If you want for-sure seamless, you'll have to edit & re-encode a compilation MP3 track/file. You'll also have to figure out by trial and error which kind of tags your particular player supports, and with how many characters, folders, etc...

Scott