Asus p7131 hybrid and software

[Docoptik]

Hi guys!.
I have ASUS P7131 HYBRID tv-tuner on my Desktop pc and i want a software that i can record from TV in Progressive mode.
I have found WinDVR3 that writes in that way, but recognizes only the Analogue Antenna.
So i want a application for the DVB-T.
The box inside it had the TOTAL MEDIA 3.5, but writes in interlaced mode.

Thanks in advaced

[danno78]

The stream send by the broadcast station is interlaced and the software (Total Media) simply write on disk the stream like it was send. If you want progressive you have to do deinterlace the file. It can be done with external software (VirtualDub Avisynth) and later you should recompress.
I never used WinDVR but the analog broadcasting is always interlaced.

[Docoptik]

Check these infos (via mediainfo) from 2 videos. One with WinDVR and the other with TOTAL MEDIA.

D:\TVTUNER CAPTURE\WINTV\WinDVR TEST.mpeg

Format                           : MPEG-PS
File size                        : 17.6 MiB
Duration                         : 30s 960ms
Overall bit rate                 : 4 763 Kbps

Video
ID                               : 224 (0xE0)
Format                           : MPEG Video
Format version                   : Version 2
Format profile                   : Main@Main
Format settings, BVOP            : Yes
Format settings, Matrix          : Default
Duration                         : 30s 560ms
Bit rate mode                    : Variable
Bit rate                         : 4 446 Kbps
Nominal bit rate                 : 6 912 Kbps
Width                            : 720 pixels
Height                           : 576 pixels
Display aspect ratio             : 4:3
Frame rate                       : 25.000 fps
Standard                         : PAL
Resolution                       : 8 bits
Colorimetry                      : 4:2:0
Scan type                        : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)               : 0.429
Stream size                      : 16.2 MiB (92%)

Audio
ID                               : 192 (0xC0)
Format                           : MPEG Audio
Format version                   : Version 1
Format profile                   : Layer 2
Duration                         : 30s 960ms
Bit rate mode                    : Constant
Bit rate                         : 128 Kbps
Channel(s)                       : 2 channels
Sampling rate                    : 48.0 KHz
Video delay                      : -16ms
Stream size                      : 484 KiB (3%)

 D:\TVTUNER CAPTURE\TOTAL MEDIA\TOTAL MEDIA TEST.mpg

Format                           : MPEG-PS
File size                        : 15.3 MiB
Duration                         : 29s 720ms
Overall bit rate                 : 4 321 Kbps
Writing library                  : ArcSoft MPEG-2 PAL

Video
ID                               : 224 (0xE0)
Format                           : MPEG Video
Format version                   : Version 2
Format profile                   : Main@Main
Format settings, BVOP            : Yes
Format settings, Matrix          : Default
Duration                         : 29s 720ms
Bit rate mode                    : Variable
Bit rate                         : 3 926 Kbps
Nominal bit rate                 : 6 000 Kbps
Width                            : 720 pixels
Height                           : 576 pixels
Display aspect ratio             : 4:3
Frame rate                       : 25.000 fps
Standard                         : PAL
Resolution                       : 8 bits
Colorimetry                      : 4:2:0
Scan type                        : Interlaced
Scan order                       : Top Field First
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)               : 0.379
Stream size                      : 13.9 MiB (91%)
Writing library                  : ArcSoft MPEG-2 PAL

Audio
ID                               : 192 (0xC0)
Format                           : MPEG Audio
Format version                   : Version 1
Format profile                   : Layer 2
Duration                         : 29s 328ms
Bit rate mode                    : Constant
Bit rate                         : 224 Kbps
Channel(s)                       : 2 channels
Sampling rate                    : 48.0 KHz
Video delay                      : -9ms
Stream size                      : 802 KiB (5%)

As you see with WinDVR the Scan type is Progressive. I want similar program that recognizes DVB-T of my card also

[Docoptik]

Ok, i ll ask different:

Someone tell me the right codec (I have Win XP SP3 and i already installed CCCP) and the software to recognize my tv-tuner and record in DVB-T mode

[danno78]

You may try DVBviewer or ProgDVB. See more tools:
https://www.videohelp.com/tools/sections/digitaltv-dvb-hdtv

[Docoptik]

I've had try those 2 programs but they didn't recognize my card. Does someone have the same card and managed to play via DVBVIEWER??

[titigrom]

Hi Docoptik ! I've got the same TV Tuner card but I don't use the bundled softs.
I use DVBDream v1.4i with ffdshow installed and drivers version 13.3.5.3.

As danno78 said, the stream send by the broadcast station is either interlaced or progressive depending on the source : movies are often progressive encoded and realtime video are interlaced (sometimes they are progressive but the picture less sharp). I can't be change unless by processing the video later.

What is your goal ? Authoring DVD or make avi, mkv, mp4 ?

[Docoptik]

Hi Docoptik ! I've got the same TV Tuner card but I don't use the bundled softs.
I use DVBDream v1.4i with ffdshow installed and drivers version 13.3.5.3.

As danno78 said, the stream send by the broadcast station is either interlaced or progressive depending on the source : movies are often progressive encoded and realtime video are interlaced (sometimes they are progressive but the picture less sharp). I can't be change unless by processing the video later.

What is your goal ? Authoring DVD or make avi, mkv, mp4 ?

About the stream of the broadcast i thought that it was always progressive. My mistake.
BUT i don't understand how the same channel with the analogue antenna if i wrote it via WinDVR is progressive and then if i wrote it via ToatalMedia is interlaced.
I want to convert it later as Avi(Xvid). I am using Virtualdub for years and i know about the deinterlace filter, which i am using it when i use TotalMedia. Or if you suggest another way for the conversion.

P.S Today i have found this link: http://support.asus.com/download/download.aspxwhere you can doenload the 13.3.5.5 driver

[titigrom]

Oh it's cool for the updated driver link, thanks

Maybe the answer for your question about interlaced or not via antenna cable is due to Totalmedia or WinDVR settings. When you capture into MPEG-2 you can choose the way the fields are interlaced or not at the end. And some softwares will deinterlace the picture before converting it into MPEG...
I understand that when you get progressive caps, you will convert them easier and faster than interlaced caps.

I use the same method as you with VirtualDub but I don't deinterlace with its internal filter (I use a filter called "DeinterlaceAreaBased.vdf" I forget where I took it ). If you are familiar with AviSynth, there's a better way for deinterlacing. Look at documentations.

[Docoptik]

Ok. I finally managed to watch Digital TV with DVDViewer and to record.
I use ffdshow as video coder.
I want to ask how you set the bitrate of the recorded file. I mean i get this from mediainfo

Format                           : AVC
Format/Info                      : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile                   : Main@L3.0
Format settings, CABAC           : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames        : 3 frames
Duration                         : 18s 320ms
Bit rate                         : 2 833 Kbps
Width                            : 720 pixels
Height                           : 576 pixels
Display aspect ratio             : 4:3
Frame rate                       : 25.000 fps
Standard                         : PAL
Resolution                       : 8 bits
Colorimetry                      : 4:2:0
Scan type                        : MBAFF
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)               : 0.273
Stream size                      : 6.19 MiB (88%)
Color primaries                  : BT.601-6 525, BT.1358 525, BT.1700 NTSC, SMPTE 170M
Transfer characteristics         : BT.601-6 525, BT.601-6 625, BT.1358 525, BT.1358 625, BT.1700 NTSC, SMPTE 170M
Matrix coefficients              : BT.601-6 525, BT.1358 525, BT.1700 NTSC, SMPTE 170M

Width is ok but i want to increase the bitrate. Can i do it from fddshow video Decoder configuration? Where i have to look?

Thanks.

[titigrom]

You can't increase the bitrate of the recorded stream in DVB mode because you get what is sent by air. In fact, the soft is acting as it simply copies the video stream and the audio stream into a .ts file (or .mpg). You have a video file which is like a copy of the original sent source... and what MediaInfo gives to you is an approximate bitrate

[Docoptik]

Oh i get it. Thanks again for your answer.