Sony chief dipstick: A PS3 victory is best for everyone

[stiltman]

Here's what the total dipstick said:

Sony Computer Entertainment America President and CEO Jack Tretton said in an interview with Forbes earlier this week that a Sony victory in this generation's console war is good for the industry.


SCEA President and CEO Jack Tretton

(Credit: SCEA "In an industry that has certainly had its challenges this year, we like to say that the environment where the PlayStation wins is best for this industry," Tretton told Forbes. "We have a brand that can play on a worldwide basis, to young and old, male and female, where our competition tends to be relegated to select regions or to select consumer audiences."

Tretton's comments came after the SCEA chief told Forbes that Nintendo, the current console leader, "delivers a casual, youth-oriented entertainment experience."

Of course, Tretton's statements echo what has been coming out of the Sony camp for quite a while. Sony has made it clear that it views Microsoft as its direct competitor. And although Nintendo sells far more consoles than both Microsoft and Sony, it seems that, as always, Sony doesn't believe that Nintendo is a real competitor. continued...

[yoda313]

I don't think so. I mainly use my ps3 for movies (bluray and upconverted dvds). I've also heard that many are not as happy with the online service for gameplay on psn. I haven't played on any online games for ps3 so I can't comment. Though they did do some on the Xplay video game show and had problems connecting (the Mr Sark Battelfield 1943 challenge for those that watch).

I love xbox live. I think its just so smooth and developed. THe psn store is ok but a little too spartan for my likes. The xbox dashboard with its continuous updates and makeovers is intuitive and easy to look at.

Basically if a game is on ps3 and xbox 360 I'll buy the 360 version everytime. I also don't like that you can't swap battery packs on the standard ps3 controllers. That is nice for the 360 - just keep a pack charged and swap on the go.

The Nintendo WII does have its place. I disagree that they are "dilutiing" the market. Who knows what switches a casual wii gamer into a hardcore halo/gears of war/deadspace shooter fanatic? You never know - but you won't find out if you don't get them interested in gaming in the first place.

The Wii is kindof like a wading pool for first timers. Get them interested and see if the waters just right. Then they can go into the deep end for the ps3 or 360 or high end pc gaming.

[Noahtuck]

Well when i finally came to the point of getting a new system, PS3 or 360, and i have always been a Playstation fan even though 99% of anything else to do with sony i avoid like the plague, but also a BIG SNES fan, i ended up going with a 360 just because sony screwed themselves by removing features from the PS3!!

The big one for me was backwards compatibility with older PS games!

And even though for some time i seriously considered the Wii, i just came to the conclusion it seemed to "kiddy" of a system, too much of a "niche" system, and only appealed to me for the fact you could get the old original NES/SNES games for it, but i have them anyways for the original SNES & PS2 :P

Just a never ending vicious cycle!!

[Xylob the Destroyer]

I don't think so. I mainly use my ps3 for movies (bluray and upconverted dvds). I've also heard that many are not as happy with the online service for gameplay on psn. I haven't played on any online games for ps3 so I can't comment. Though they did do some on the Xplay video game show and had problems connecting (the Mr Sark Battelfield 1943 challenge for those that watch).

I don't play online much, but Resistance, Killzone, and my various PS2 games play flawlessly on the PS3 online system. Since I already paid $60 for my X-BOX game (insert whatever title you wish) I think it's absolutely retarded that I also have to pay a subscription fee to play it. I will not pay for LIVE.

I love xbox live. I think its just so smooth and developed. THe psn store is ok but a little too spartan for my likes. The xbox dashboard with its continuous updates and makeovers is intuitive and easy to look at.

I hate the 360 interface - I can never find anything! Plus, they're always re-arranging shit. Are they trying to piss me off?
On PSN they have this really innovative tool in the upper right corner known as a 'search function'. What a concept...
:P

Basically if a game is on ps3 and xbox 360 I'll buy the 360 version everytime.

Basically if a game is on both I usually go with the PS3 version because it is generally better in almost every way. Since online play is not very important to me, and I can do it for free on the PS3, which has infinitely better controllers...

I also don't like that you can't swap battery packs on the standard ps3 controllers. That is nice for the 360 - just keep a pack charged and swap on the go.

Amen to that brotha! And what the **** is up with $ony's 3 foot long charging cable?!?!?!
But still, let us not forget that in general the 360 controller is a complete piece of shit. Especially the d-pad.

The Nintendo WII does have its place. I disagree that they are "dilutiing" the market. Who knows what switches a casual wii gamer into a hardcore halo/gears of war/deadspace shooter fanatic? You never know - but you won't find out if you don't get them interested in gaming in the first place.

DING DING DING DING DING!!! We have a winner!
Despite some of their **** ups *cough N64 cough*, they know what they're doing and they definitely know how to make games (and money).

i ended up going with a 360 just because sony screwed themselves by removing features from the PS3!!

The big one for me was backwards compatibility with older PS games!

Which is why, when I read that the upcoming models would not play PS2, I frantcially scoured the city for an "old" model that would play my huge collection of PS2 games.
My wife and I both made the mistake of buying the PS2 relatively early in it's product cycle, therefore both our PS2s are fucked. Hers won't play DVDs or any game on a DVD disc. Mine won't play DVDs - it's only a matter of time before they're both dead weight.
Considering how much noise they made about the PS3 being backward compatible with PS1 & PS2, I was quite shocked when they (very quietly) announced that PS2 compatibility was going away. Talk about shooting yourself in the foot! At first they had a deal going on like the 360, where certain PS2 titles could be played if you downloaded and installed an 'emulator' for each title that would allow you to play. But that got shit-canned pretty quick. If you managed to get those files downloaded back then you're good to go, but you can't get it now.
Oh, but wait - it still plays original PlayStation games! This is fine for me, as I have a ton of them, but for most consumers this is a huge 'who give a shit?' feature.

[yoda313]

Amen to that brotha! And what the **** is up with $ony's 3 foot long charging cable?!?!?!

Well at least we agree on that as well. Yeah how hard it is it to ship a 6foot usb cable instead of a 3foot?

DING DING DING DING DING!!! We have a winner!
Despite some of their **** ups *cough N64 cough*, they know what they're doing and they definitely know how to make games (and money).

But there were some key games the n64 delivered - not to mention the first true "analog" stick that revolutionized gaming and the intro of 3d mario in mario 64. You can't discount the importance of Goldeneye on the 64 or any of the 64 Zelda games. Not to mention a few other games that made it on the n64. Though in general their decision on cartridge games instead of cd definitely hurt them in terms of devolopment support.

Since online play is not very important to me, and I can do it for free on the PS3, which has infinitely better controllers...

Yeah I keep forgetting I am paying for live goldmembership. But I am a Halo addict so I can't go without it.......

But I actually like the 360 controllers a little bit better than the ps3. It finally dawned on me that the analog sticks on the 360 have recessed top buttons on the analog sticks and the sticks on the ps3 controllers are rounded over. It is just more comfortable to me for the thumbs to rest inside a shallow crater than over a rounded over surface.

And regarding the dpad - that is only a concern really for retro style games. Any modern game rarely touches the dpad except for some occasional menu based systems for some games.




One thing I am really looking forward to for the 360 is PROJECT NATAL. If it even lives up to just 50% of the promise it holds it would blow the WII out of the water. With its hd graphics and substantial online backbone in place the kind of games that could be done with a controller-less system is mindblowing.

I love the fact that it would be almost like having your own Star Trek HOLODECK in your own room! Granted you wouldn't be able to reach out and touch them in three-d but you'd have nearly 1:1 interaction with the onscreen characters.

The only thing I could see being cumbersome would be in shooters with walking. I wouldn't want to have to litterally walk three feet forward and then back again and over and over to cover a virtual 100 yards to get from one spot to another on a map. I'd hope they'd develop some kind of macro for walking where you just point and click with your hands to simulate it.

I will say that is where Nintendo struck paydirt with the Nunchuck adapter on the Wii remote add-on. THat makes three-d movement like walking and jumping doable with its analog stick and zbutton.

[Xylob the Destroyer]

Well at least we agree on that

:P

Sure, there were some good games on the N64, but Nintendo's very bad decision to basically turn it into a pokemon machine and completely ignore the customer base that actually had the $$$ to spend on games was a horrible way to go.
Then openly stating that they did this and knew it was a mistake and promising the GameCube wouldn't be the same thing hurt them more because what happened? Well, the GC still had mostly kiddie titles right from the get-go and that scared off so many consumers that developers ignored it too.

I can agree that the top of the analog sticks on the PS controller could be a bit better.

As for the 360 d-pad, I play old-school games more than any other type. I downloaded the demo for the new Bionic Commando on 360 and within 5 minutes wanted to SMASH controller! SMASH!!! You can't play the game with the sticks, as it's designed specifically for the d-pad.
Downloaded on PS3 and no problems.
I bought Pac Man Champion edition (or whatever it's called) on LIVE and am so pissed because it's basically unplayable.
Also, I just picked up the 360 exclusive Raiden Fighters Aces
http://www.valcongames.com/raiden.htm
http://www.1up.com/do/gameOverview?cId=3171116
straight ports of classic arcade games that were designed to be played with a digital joystick - trying to play these games with the analog stick is like trying to drive from the back seat with stilts to the pedals and ropes on the steering wheel.
Can anybody recommend a good third party 360 controller with a d-pad that works?
PLEASE?

[yoda313]

@xylob - how about looking into a fighter stick for the 360? I know ones for Street Fighter 4 are ridiculously expensive but there have to be cheap knockoffs.

That way they would be next gen versions of the best fighter stick ever - the original NES ADVANTAGE. THat was perfect!

edit check this out:

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=9220354&type=product&id=1218061849340



mad cats streetfighter 4 fightpad

That might do it for you too.

I checked out the madcats street fighter stick - 150.00!!! I don't think so.....