Vegas- So many problems! What am I doing Wrong? Please HELP!

[i_c_e]

Hi Everyone,
My first post here. I am so happy to find this site. Exactly what I need Video Help!!
If anyone woudl take the time to read this and offer any advise I would greatly apreciate it.

I Will list all the details of my problem so maybe someone will be my hero and help me...

I was enthusiastic user of Vegas Platuim 9.0. I did many short films (5-8 min) with only a few problems
.
I am now doing a much bigger DVD with 6 Buttons 10-12 min each. I began having many more major problems (' An error has occured...') *sob* so I sold the 4 year old desktop (thinking it must be a comp. problem) and bought a brand new laptop.
Specs:
Vista Home Premium 64 bit SP1
Intel Centrino 2 Processor
2.0GHZ
3 MB Cache
256mb Dedicated and 1928mb shared NVIDIA 9200 Graphics card
4GB RAM
320 HD
Is a good machine for Vegas? I can still return it with no fees...

I then realized that I could not us my old Vegas software with a x64 system. *sob*

So I found a place on ebay that had a stand alone version of Sony Vegas Pro 8 (the software I always dreamed of) for $99 (legally, I called Sony to verify) and bought it, got the updates (8.1) and Got running again. or so I thought.....
Initially the software seemed to be running fine.....but over the past few days (i bought it Wednesday) I have had so many problems, errors, hangs, red thumbnails etc. that I want to cry... *sob*
I have unistalled, reinstalled, done everything on the Sony Knowledge base ect... and still so many problems..
The two most common are ...
1). A open a project, one I had just worked on, and won't open. It says 'Unsuported media' or 'the following file has an error what do you want to do' for every single file then after replacing every single one it still won't open. *sob*
2). As I am working all of the sudden some of the thumbnails go red and the video is just gone while the audio remains. What the heck? *sob*

I am using MPEG-2 files from my Sony HDR-CX12 Camcorder in mostly SD mode or some files I shot in HD and converted to MPEG2.

I have been working to 3 and 4 in the morning as I have to finish this huge project in less than two weeks..
If it hangs one more time I am going to hang myself...

Some one please help me,
I attached a file with all my errors so maybe you could check it out?

Josh.

Thank you in advanced




all%20my%20errors.wps

[edDV]

I never knew there was a Vista Home (lowest version) 64 bit.

I use 32bit Vista (Premium/Ultimate) and Vegas Pro 8 (current) with no major problems. Your computer profile lists Vegas Pro 8.1. Why use a lower version?

Let me know how 64 bit works for you. I'm not going there until there is a reason.


PS the Sony HDR-CX12 AVCHD is also on the edge. Not a good beginner situation.

[SCDVD]

I never knew there was a Vista Home (lowest version) 64 bit.

I use 32bit Vista (Premium/Ultimate) and Vegas Pro 8 (current) with no major problems. Your computer profile lists Vegas Pro 8.1. Why use a lower version?

Let me know how 64 bit works for you. I'm not going there until there is a reason.

I'm using 64-bit Vista Premium. I'm using 32-bit Vegas Pro 8 however because some plug-ins won't run in the 64-bit version of Vegas. 32-bit Vegas runs fine under 64-bit Vista. In fact I don't have a problem with any of my 32-bit applications.

[edDV]

I gladly hand I_C_E over to you.

[i_c_e]

edDV-
None of what you're saying makes sense to me.
Home Premium comes in basically every single new computer on the market.
Vegas 8.1 is newer that 8.0! it is the Update for x64!
How is it working for me? Did you read the message? it's not!
i love the camcorder. And I'm not quite a beginer, I'm just new to V8 and Vista 64.
SCDV- Do you think I should try to run Vegas with out the 8.1 update? or maybe restore the computer to 32 bit?
You said some plugins didn't work in x64, do you think that the pluggin is not working for me is the plug in Codec for MPEG2?

Anyone else?

Thanks,

josh

[edDV]

edDV-
None of what you're saying makes sense to me.
Home Premium comes in basically every single new computer on the market.

Most ship with 32bit Vista Home Premium. I thought your original post said Vista Home, not Home Premium. Normally one must request 64 bit since not all applications support it.

Vegas 8.1 is newer that 8.0! it is the Update for x64!
How is it working for me? Did you read the message? it's not!

8.1 was released for both 32bit and 64 bit Vista versions. There was no specific tie of v8.1 to 64 bit.

i love the camcorder. And I'm not quite a beginer, I'm just new to V8 and Vista 64.
SCDV- Do you think I should try to run Vegas with out the 8.1 update? or maybe restore the computer to 32 bit?

I find 32bit Vista + Vegas 8.1 works fine. 64bit is still somewhat out there with little benefit beyond memory capacity. Memory above 3GB usually is a not needed. 2 GB works fine.

You said some plugins didn't work in x64, do you think that the pluggin is not working for me is the plug in Codec for MPEG2?

Lots of non-Vegas utilities/software have not yet been updated for 64bit. Vegas itself is supposed to work.

[i_c_e]

okay this is kind of an eye opener for me.
I have been looking at all the retailers for a new pc and everything i can find is 64x.
I am wondering if I should do a system restore and get this one to 32 bit or get another one...if I can find it. I was going to do it originally but HP said it might not be a good idea because this comp was designed for 64 so there is no telling how it will go with 32.
When I talked to the tech at Sony he said that there was 8.1 for 64 bit or 8.0c for 32 bit. but maybe he was wrong.

All in all what do you think I should do? any one thing i could work on or do that might help my situation.

Thanks man,

josh

[minidv2dvd]

you could try un-installing 8.1 which is the 64 bit version and installing 8.0c to see if the 32 bit version works any better, they both will run on our computer. the only people i know of who can't use mpeg-2 in vegas pro are those using it in the unactivated demo mode(or a badly cracked one). i'd guess for $99 you may have gotten taken. the real one comes in a box with the manual and would normally sell for at least $300. did it come with a serial number and were you able to do the online activation?

[SCDVD]

I can tell you that your problem is not a Vista 64-bit issue with Vegas. I suspect that minidv2dvd is on to something with his suggestion. It sounds like there is something funny with your "legal" copy of Vegas. You know the old adage - If it sounds too good to be true .... How would you like to buy a Rolex watch? I have one that I'll let you have for $20.

[i_c_e]

I can tell you that your problem is not a Vista 64-bit issue with Vegas. I suspect that minidv2dvd is on to something with his suggestion. It sounds like there is something funny with your "legal" copy of Vegas. You know the old adage - If it sounds too good to be true .... How would you like to buy a Rolex watch? I have one that I'll let you have for $20.

I bought it from a authorized Sony retailer (Cardinal Camera) it came with an regristration code and optional authentication code. I updated it to 8.1 from a disc that Sony Tech support sent me. Sony said that you can legally buy stand alone versions of Vegas but they do not include DVD Architech and AC-3. I have another program so I figured it would be my best bet. Boy was I wrong! I think I have a Codec or Plug in problem.
I am trying to find a way to batch render all my MPEG2 files to .avi files I think then I would be good. Any ideas? other than using the Vegas timeline?

Thanks everyone.

josh

Now about that Rolex.....here's my Credit Card # 4562-2736-23620-0921 Visa Exp. 11/10/12 CCD 554
Thanks sounds like a real bargin!

[SCDVD]

It does sound like you may have a codec conflict. It is possible that previous installations on your system may have left some conflicting "footprints". You might try uninstalling previous codecs although that alone doesn't always clean things up. As a last resort, a fresh format and Windows reinstall is needed to get the gremlins out of the way.

[i_c_e]

Thanks again for the help man.

is a system restore the same as a format and windows reinstall?
Do you think this is my problem? I had Vegas 9.0 platinum and then Vegas 8.0b then 8.1. So it would make sense. Do you think that 8.0b or 8.1 would be better for my system- Vista 64bit? I heard a lot of people say that 8.0b is far more stable and not so buggy.

[SCDVD]

A Windows system restore isn't the same as a reformat and Windows install. If you are referring to the manufacturer's restore disc, it will accomplish the same thing as a format / Windows install.

I use Vista 64-bit with Vegas Pro 8.0c. I don't agree with the suggestion that 8.0b is more stable. I believe the reverse is true. I don't use the 64-bit 8.1 version because some plug-ins don't run in the 64-bit version.

[minidv2dvd]

i'd go with 8.0c you can download it direct from sony's website. the authentication step isn't optional. it's what turns off the demo mode and turns it into the full version. i'd uninstall all prior versions including 9 platinum before installing 8 pro again.

[edDV]

I finally had time to look at the release notes. If the documentation isn't in error, it looks like 8.1 added >4GB 64bit memory features to 8.0b but they don't list 8.0c fixes and features.

Vegas Pro 8.0c will run on 32 or 64bit Vista but does not include the >4GB memory feature.

Also make sure you have at least Net Framework 3.0 installed

http://www.sonycreativesoftware.com/download/updates

[i_c_e]

Thanks so much you guys. I really appreciate all the help.
First I didn't mean restore I mean't recovery (with the recovery discs I will make from my pc).
I have uninstalled all the previous versions and am now giving 8.0b a run. hopefully it will be better if not I'll try 8.0c. (I do not have enough internet speed to do it at my house).
Also does any one know of a program that takes plain Mpeg2 files and converts them to .avi files? Something that will do a batch render?
Thanks again everyone,

Josh

[SCDVD]

If you make backup discs that you intend to use for recovery, that won't help if the problem is a corrupted system. All that would do is restore the same problem you already have. In any case, I would try less drastic remedies first such as minidv2dvd suggested above.

[i_c_e]

Yeah, I am trying everything.

if all else fails I will do a format and reinstall.

[blackmatt]

I-C-E: did you find a solution?
I am having exactly same problem with mpegs in 8.1 on a 64bit machine, Vista 64.
AND it is the same in 8.0c (i didnt yet try uninstalling 8.1)

to convert to avi ( a massive pain and quality loss, i have a huge mpeg library i want to use) we could use virtualdub mpeg version, with 64bit ac3 codec.

but i would prefer to use the mpegs directly.

thanks to you and anyone else for help

Matt Black

[i_c_e]

Hey Matt,
How are you?
No, frankly right now there is no solution to this problem. 64 bit just doesn't jive with MPEG2 right now (at least for most of us, some have had sucsess).
I know converting to AVI sounds like a daunting task. I have over 350GB of MPEG but I had to get this project done and didn't have the time to keep wasting it looking for a non existent solution. I now can do what I once thought impossible, I can do what ever I want with absolutely no problems.
I bought the Veggie Toolkit from PeachRock and did over night conversions as I went along until I did all of them. His, (Randalls, a real nice guy) software works flawlessly and is well worth the $70 bucks. Unlike you said in your post you do not loose any quality what so ever. AVI is less compressed than MPG and is a lossless format.
The only disadvantage is the size AVI files are much bigger. I bought a trilabite hard drive with esata that is really sweet for $129.

I have talked to Sony about this on many occasions. There is no solution yet, They tell me that it is quiet difficult to make 64 bit software.
Vegas 9.0 is coming out at NAB this year so maybe there will be some realief.? Were all hoping! (join us over at the SonyCreativeSoftware official forum at http://www.sonycreativesoftware.com it is much, much better than this place for Vegas. There are many experts over there that will go the extra mile to help you figure this thing out. That's where I am half the time. I gave up on this forum.

Hope some of this helps and you figure it out. I know how frusterating it can be.

Best wishes,

ice

[edDV]

...
I have talked to Sony about this on many occasions. There is no solution yet, They tell me that it is quiet difficult to make 64 bit software.
Vegas 9.0 is coming out at NAB this year so maybe there will be some realief.? Were all hoping! (join us over at the SonyCreativeSoftware official forum at http://www.sonycreativesoftware.com it is much, much better than this place for Vegas. There are many experts over there that will go the extra mile to help you figure this thing out. That's where I am half the time. I gave up on this forum.

Hope some of this helps and you figure it out. I know how frusterating it can be.

Best wishes,

ice

This isn't a Vegas Pro forum but wasn't the advice the same? ... Avoid Vista 64bit for Vegas Pro unless you are a beta tester. If you have real work to do, use 32bit Vista.

[SCDVD]

I have talked to Sony about this on many occasions. There is no solution yet, They tell me that it is quiet difficult to make 64 bit software.
Vegas 9.0 is coming out at NAB this year so maybe there will be some realief.? Were all hoping! (join us over at the SonyCreativeSoftware official forum at http://www.sonycreativesoftware.com it is much, much better than this place for Vegas. There are many experts over there that will go the extra mile to help you figure this thing out. That's where I am half the time. I gave up on this forum.

I have looked at Sony's Vegas forum a number of times and strange as it sounds, I admire the way Sony manages the forum. Even though they could, they don't appear to filter or censure the forum at all. There are a few very knowledgeable and helpful members there but the vast preponderance are a collection of whiners and social mutants who break down many of the threads with their personal mudslinging and whining. For example look at the threads regarding Vegas Pro 9. Virtually all you read in these threads are comments by sickos sniping at each others. I'm interested in any credible information about Vegas Pro 9's introduction but you won't read it there.

So if that's your kind of place, have a good time but please don't drag their style of insult slinging to this forum. You got a lot of solid advice here by some very knowledgeable people. So if you "gave up on this forum", don't let the doorknob hit you in the ass on the way out.

[i_c_e]

You guys are totally wrong, maybe jealous....? I would have never been able to accomplish my project with out the advise of many people on that forum. They are very knowledgeable and know what they are talking about! Even Douglas Spotted Eagle chimes in when needed.

So you really don't know what your talking about dude!

I don't even visit this forum any more I just got an email that was some one asking for help.

I am out for good (at least for a while).

ice

[seifer almasy]

vegas does seem to have issues all over the shop with mpeg2