AutoGK problems

[Arlo]

I've ripped my DVDs with DVDFab HD Decrypter selecting the forced subtitles stream and now i'm trying to burn them into an avi with AutoGK but I'm having some problems:

(1) although I can see/select the subtitles in the ripped DVD Folder and i can select them in AutoGK they don't appear in the output avi file regardless of the combination of selecting the 'subtitle' or 'forced only' options;

(2) as suggested in other threads i have tried to use the 'preview' function to see if the subtitles will be burned but apart from displaying the analysis log etc no preview is actually displayed, WMP isn't opened.

I've tried this with AutoGK 2.45 and 2.50a with no success with either problem.

Help!!!!

[John-Paul]

Assuming AutoGK is installed correctly (including vobsub), have you tried extracting the forced subtitle stream directly from the vob's? I've encountered discs which have subtitle header errors that are not able to be extracted via vobsub.

[Arlo]

Assuming AutoGK is installed correctly (including vobsub), have you tried extracting the forced subtitle stream directly from the vob's? I've encountered discs which have subtitle header errors that are not able to be extracted via vobsub.

No, how do you do that then? Any chance of a pointer to a Guide that covers that/ I assume that i would then add then back via AutoGK via the external sub option. This might help with the fact that i can't find the forced subs on Die Another Day anywhere!

Any ideas about the Preview problem?

[manono]

I assume you're talking about subs for another language, which are always on. Technically, Forced Subs are a small number of dialog lines within a larger sub file that includes that foreign language dialog but also the main language dialog. They'll be marked as Forced. Often times though, that foreign language dialog has its own subtitle stream and therefore isn't Forced.

It can be hard as hell to figure which they are and then find them when there are a bunch of different subtitle streams. John-Paul's idea isn't a bad one, especially if the AutoGK preview isn't working for you. Get the IDX/SUB with all the streams. Here's a guide:

http://www.doom9.org/dvobsub.htm

You'll be using VobSub Configure which is included with AutoGK. My suggestion is to get them all. Then open the sub languages one at a time in SubResynch (also included). Below "Open", "Save As", and "Reset Timing" is a drop down box with all the languages. Check them out one at a time. If they are really Forced, there will be a few of them that will be marked as such in the Forced column. If they have their own stream then there will be (usually) just a few lines of dialog. You can also click on the lines and read the dialog. Once you figure which it is, go back into VobSub Configure and get just that one language (move the others to the left). Either that or use VobSubStrip to get the one you want out of the IDX/SUB files that have them all. Once you get it, then use the CTRL-F8 trick to get it into the AVI. If it really is forced, you'll have to mark it as such or you'll get all the dialog. Open the IDX with Notepad and:

# For correcting non-progressive desync. (in millisecs or hh:mms:ms)
# Note: Not effective in DirectVobSub, use "delay: ... " instead.
time offset: 0

# ON: displays only forced subtitles, OFF: shows everything
forced subs: ON

No, you don't add them into the AVI with that External Sub checkbox in the advanced settings. That's for when you want to keep the subs external, or separate. That may be the source of your problems, if you checked that box. You do it via CTRL-F8. Here's a guide:

https://forum.videohelp.com/topic316471.html

[Arlo]

I assume you're talking about subs for another language, which are always on. Technically, Forced Subs are a small number of dialog lines within a larger sub file that includes that foreign language dialog but also the main language dialog. They'll be marked as Forced. Often times though, that foreign language dialog has its own subtitle stream and therefore isn't Forced.

It can be hard as hell to figure which they are and then find them when there are a bunch of different subtitle streams. John-Paul's idea isn't a bad one, especially if the AutoGK preview isn't working for you. Get the IDX/SUB with all the streams. Here's a guide:

http://www.doom9.org/dvobsub.htm

You'll be using VobSub Configure which is included with AutoGK. My suggestion is to get them all. Then open the sub languages one at a time in SubResynch (also included). Below "Open", "Save As", and "Reset Timing" is a drop down box with all the languages. Check them out one at a time. If they are really Forced, there will be a few of them that will be marked as such in the Forced column. If they have their own stream then there will be (usually) just a few lines of dialog. You can also click on the lines and read the dialog. Once you figure which it is, go back into VobSub Configure and get just that one language (move the others to the left). Either that or use VobSubStrip to get the one you want out of the IDX/SUB files that have them all. Once you get it, then use the CTRL-F8 trick to get it into the AVI. If it really is forced, you'll have to mark it as such or you'll get all the dialog. Open the IDX with Notepad and:

# For correcting non-progressive desync. (in millisecs or hh:mms:ms)
# Note: Not effective in DirectVobSub, use "delay: ... " instead.
time offset: 0

# ON: displays only forced subtitles, OFF: shows everything
forced subs: ON

No, you don't add them into the AVI with that External Sub checkbox in the advanced settings. That's for when you want to keep the subs external, or separate. That may be the source of your problems, if you checked that box. You do it via CTRL-F8. Here's a guide:

https://forum.videohelp.com/topic316471.html

I'm leaving the external checkbox unchecked. If I select a subtitle stream (in AutoGK) it doesn'nt get burned into the output avi. One concern I had was whether i was setting the input file correctly; unlike in the doom9 guide there doesn't seem to be an Input DVD option anymore just Input File, so when I've got a Decrypted main movie I have to select the VTS_01_0.IFO file, is this correct?

and I still can't get the Preview function to work!

[manono]

I don't know what to suggest about the Preview except to uninstall and reinstall AutoGK.

unlike in the doom9 guide there doesn't seem to be an Input DVD option anymore just Input File, so when I've got a Decrypted main movie I have to select the VTS_01_0.IFO file, is this correct?

That's right. If you want AutoGK to detect and make subs for you, you have to load the IFO. If you load VOBs (also possible), no subs. You can always load an external sub file via the F8 trick, whichever way you load the movie.

Do you have the log for any of these failed attempts to get an AVI with subs? It might throw some light on the problem.

[Arlo]

I've tried uninstalling and re-installing 2.45 but still no Preview!

For info, the following versions of support utilities are installed in case that has an impact:
AviSynth 2.5
VobSub 2.23

As for the subtitle issue, the following log file is for a clip I extracted from Bourne Ultimatum using DVD Shrink, the subtitle stream is selected but forced subtitle is not. When I play the clip with Showtime the subtitles are displayed.


[10/01/2009 10:00:31 PM] AutoGK 2.45
[10/01/2009 10:00:31 PM] OS: Windows Vista (6.0.6001).2
[10/01/2009 10:00:31 PM] Job started.
[10/01/2009 10:00:31 PM] Input file: C:\Users\Steve\Videos\DVDs\Bourne Ultimatum Trimmed\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_0.IFO
[10/01/2009 10:00:31 PM] Output file: C:\Users\Steve\Videos\DVDs\Bourne Ultimatum Trimmed.avi
[10/01/2009 10:00:31 PM] Output codec: XviD
[10/01/2009 10:00:31 PM] Audio 1: English AC3 6ch
[10/01/2009 10:00:31 PM] Subtitles 1: English wide
[10/01/2009 10:00:31 PM] Format: AVI
[10/01/2009 10:00:31 PM] Target quality: 75%
[10/01/2009 10:00:31 PM] Audio 1 settings: Original
[10/01/2009 10:00:31 PM] Started encoding.
[10/01/2009 10:00:31 PM] Demuxing and indexing.
[10/01/2009 10:00:33 PM] Processing file: C:\Users\Steve\Videos\DVDs\Bourne Ultimatum Trimmed\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_1.VOB
[10/01/2009 10:00:33 PM] Source resolution: 720x576
[10/01/2009 10:00:33 PM] Found PAL source.
[10/01/2009 10:00:33 PM] Source aspect ratio: 16:9
[10/01/2009 10:00:33 PM] Color correction enabled.
[10/01/2009 10:00:33 PM] Analyzing source.
[10/01/2009 10:01:10 PM] Source has percentage of interlacing in motion areas: 0.00
[10/01/2009 10:01:10 PM] Source is considered to be progressive.
[10/01/2009 10:01:10 PM] Output will contain 2969 frames
[10/01/2009 10:01:10 PM] Preparing subtitles.
[10/01/2009 10:01:11 PM] Running single pass encoding.
[10/01/2009 10:01:11 PM] Writing the following script to C:\Users\Steve\Videos\DVDs\agk_tmp\Bourne Ultimatum Trimmed_movie.avs
================================================== =========
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~2\AutoGK\DGMPGDec\DGDecode.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~2\AutoGK\filters\autocrop.dl l")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~2\AutoGK\filters\vsfilter.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~2\AutoGK\filters\ColorMatrix .dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~2\AutoGK\filters\RemoveGrain SSE3.dll")

movie = mpeg2source("C:\Users\Steve\Videos\DVDs\agk_tmp\Bo urne Ultimatum Trimmed.d2v")
cropclip = autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples= 10,aspect=0,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0,leftad d=0,rightadd=0,topadd=0,bottomadd=0)
fixed_aspect = 1.42222222222222
c_width = width(cropclip)
c_height = round(height(cropclip) / fixed_aspect)
input_par = float(c_width)/float(c_height)
input_par = (input_par > 1.4) || (input_par < 1.25) ? input_par : (4.0/3.0)
out_width = 720
out_height = round(float(out_width) / input_par)
hmod = out_height - (floor(out_height / 16 ) * 16)
out_height = (hmod > 4) ? (out_height + (16 - hmod)) : (out_height - hmod)
new_aspect = (float(out_width) / float(out_height)) / fixed_aspect
autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples= 10,aspect=new_aspect,threshold=34,samplestartframe =0,leftadd=0,rightadd=0,topadd=0,bottomadd=0)
LanczosResize(out_width,out_height)
RemoveGrain(mode=2)
ColorMatrix("Rec.709->Rec.601",opt=0,hints=false,threads=0)
VobSub("C:\Users\Steve\Videos\DVDs\agk_tmp\Bourne Ultimatum Trimmed.idx")
================================================== =========
[10/01/2009 10:02:30 PM] Duration was: 1 minute, 18 seconds
[10/01/2009 10:02:30 PM] Speed was: 37.93 fps.
[10/01/2009 10:02:30 PM] Job finished. Total time: 1 minute, 58 seconds

[manono]

Oh, it's a clip. Then perhaps the timestamps weren't remapped when AutoGK got the subs. Open the IDX with notepad and check out the timestamps. Do they correspond to their place in the clip, or their original place in the movie?

If the timings are incorrect, then you'll have to remap them yourself and add them in using F8. More trouble than its worth, probably, but I can explain how if you like.

[Arlo]

Oh, it's a clip. Then perhaps the timestamps weren't remapped when AutoGK got the subs. Open the IDX with notepad and check out the timestamps. Do they correspond to their place in the clip, or their original place in the movie?

If the timings are incorrect, then you'll have to remap them yourself and add them in using F8. More trouble than its worth, probably, but I can explain how if you like.

I just made a clip as a quick way to see if it worked (no Preview available) when I did the whole film I had the same problem.

Where is the IDX file?

[manono]

The IDX and SUB files are the 2 subs files created by AutoGK. The IDX contains the timestamps and can be opened and then examined using Notepad. The SUB file contains the image files of the subs and looks like gibberish if opened in Notepad. Where are they? I don't know. Look around in the files that AutoGK created. The log said it prepared subs, so I'm pretty sure they're there somewhere. If it can't make any subs I think it aborts.

But when doing the entire film you didn't get subs either? And there's nothing different about that log when compared to the one for the clip that you posted? Did you use DVD Shrink in the preparation of the whole movie? Did you do anything screwy like removing subtitle streams/languages?

Do you know how to get the subs yourself and then get them into AutoGK using the F8 trick?

By the way, it's OK to upgrade to ver. 2.50, not that the version used has any bearing on your problem. Ver. 2.51 was just released also.

[Arlo]

Oh, it's a clip. Then perhaps the timestamps weren't remapped when AutoGK got the subs. Open the IDX with notepad and check out the timestamps. Do they correspond to their place in the clip, or their original place in the movie?

If the timings are incorrect, then you'll have to remap them yourself and add them in using F8. More trouble than its worth, probably, but I can explain how if you like.

I just made a clip as a quick way to see if it worked (no Preview available) when I did the whole film I had the same problem.

Where is the IDX file?

[manono]

Where are they? I don't know. Look around in the files that AutoGK created. The log said it prepared subs, so I'm pretty sure they're there somewhere. If it can't make any subs I think it aborts.