DivX v/s Xvid trial and error now puzzled, read toward end

[adiktlost]

like above , i'm having trouble playing avi files with the xvid codec. i can play other movies fine, well kinda wmplayer (11) has been closing, so has wmplayer classic, but since been using gomplayer it plays perfectly the movies wmp won't even start to.

quick summary can play everything fine through gomplayer except avi files with xvid codec, codec version seems to be stuck at 1.0.3( used gpsot on those files) tried wmplayer 9( then upgraded to 11, both crash) uninstalled k-lite full, then retried, same deal, tried bsplayer also crashed. In gom player the avi files with xvid codec the video seems to drag and video and audio are out of sync.

btw, system is 600mghz, 256mb ram, 16mg 2x agp voodoo, enough for the xvid hardware requirements from xvid's page, so even though some crash in wmp i still don't think it's a hardware problem. i did have k-lite full installed on here, but uninstalled it and ran tuneup utilites reg cleaner.

whenever i try to install an xvid codec (straight from the site) it hangs on trying to overwrite xvid.ax , so i just went into windows/system32 where it said the file was, renamed the extension the first time around, 1.0.3 xvid.ax was 52kb, xvid.ax 1.13 was 76kb. 1.1.3 did not work either and when running the file under gspot it still showed as 1.0.3 for the xvid codec being used for the file, so this time an uninstall, deleted xvid.ax and xvid.axold into the recycle bin and another reg clean. after installing xvid 1.2.1 (new xvid.ax was 76kb) was curious tried file through wmp, a crash, then through gomplayer, no difference there i think. bsplayer still crashes.

i've tried the xvid FourCC changer, no luck playing perfectly with any of the other settings, tried them all. tried disabling the xvid filter in gom's settings, no luck, tried changing xvid's priority settings in gom to highest, even have the player itself on a high setting, tried to enable quick play mode in gom, no luck, tried changing the source settings for video filter from auto to all other settings, no luck.

the only movie files i still have on here at the moment that are playable, when ran through gspot have video codecs : codec - XVID ; Name : XviD ISO MPEG-4 (so i can play some xvid's fine)
codec - DIV3 ; Name DivX 3 Low-Motion (sounds like a crappy codec but when comparing the frame quality as well as other settings are higher for this than xvid files i'm having trouble with, audio codecs are the same all around mpeg-1 layer 3)

confused, any help would be appreciated.

[Baldrick]

Try play with vlc media player or smplayer and see if it make any difference. They have builtin decoders.

And the xvid codec USED in your avi files wont change because you install a new xvid decoder version. It should work fine to play old xvid avi videos.

[adiktlost]

vlc mp crashes,
smplayer crashes and gives this log at least-

C:/Program Files/SMPlayer/mplayer/mplayer.exe -noquiet -nofs -sub-fuzziness 1 -identify -slave -vo directx, -zoom -nokeepaspect -priority abovenormal -framedrop -nodr -double -wid 3408438 -colorkey 0x020202 -monitorpixelaspect 1 -noass -subfont-autoscale 1 -subfont-text-scale 5 -subcp ISO-8859-1 -subpos 100 -cache 1000 -osdlevel 0 -prefer-ipv4 -vf-add screenshot -slices -af equalizer=0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0 http://88.191.30.130:8050

with exit code: - 1073741795

[adiktlost]

ummm, just wondering, lol, why does smplayer on crashing give a link to shoutcast? maybe kinda like, well since you can't watch your movie how about some net radio? lol

[adiktlost]

hmmm, this make sense(sarcasm,, just a little, i'm confused a little),,, i can play large divx files encoded/packed with divx , i can play large xvid files encoded/packed with divx but i CAN NOT play xvid files packed/encoded with divx .

did a quick search, quick difference between divx and xvid is that while divx is more user friendly, xvid is faster, open source and better quality . i'm going to upload 2 last images so you can see the difference, they will be labeled Divx vs Xvid and Xvid vs Divx. they will be 2 gspot screenshots of 2 movies BOTH using xvid but 1 using xvid with the an avi "packed bitstream " by divx . the divx packed one seems to be better quality all around as well.

now time to see how long it takes to convert, fun fun (sarcasm) IF it doesn't take too long i'll convert the xvid one to be an xvid packed with divx and leave all other settings the exact same, but i'm pretty much convinced already ( i noticed in other movies the same deal, but in these specific 2, the closest 2 i could find, it looks like to me that divx's settings and quality are higher than xvids( but i'm a noob so i'm really just guessing)

final divx vs xvid showdown -
http://s445.photobucket.com/albums/qq180/adiktlost/

now why can't i play xvid?

[extent]

I would try the same xvid files on another machine, using vlc, to see if they play ok, to make sure they are fully working files with no problems of their own. if they work, you could always buy a dvd player that supports divx as a last resort! most players that are divx compatible (such as the philips divx player range) will also play xvid with no problems.

your problem is most likely with conflicting or incorrectly installed video codecs. as a last resort you could always try either restoring your pc to an earlier period (eg when xvid videos played ok), or by reinstalling all codecs, and trying to play them again. i would have uninstalled all video related software and codecs one by one, trying again, then finally even reinstalled windows from scratch as a last resort (there isnt alot installed on this pc) and then installed nothing but VLC, to see if things would work with a clean install If things are still playing up even then, I would think its definately a hardware issue (assuming the videos are ok). you have stated that divx works fine though, so your system is definately up to scratch specs wise, but the required xvid codec is surely not installed as it should be, or conflicting.

I have tried the K-Lite codec pack previously to play all my videos from wmp etc with no issues. if they still dont work (and if its not a hassle) then i would reinstall windows, and then only vlc, to see if everything works ok. if reinstalling any dvd/menu/divx creation tools be careful you arent choosing to install multiple versions of any video codecs that may become bundled with software, to prevent any conflicts

http://www.codecguide.com/download_kl.htm

[KBeee]

With a 600MHz CPU, and 256MB of memory running Windows XP Sp3, I'm surprised anything works at all
Your computer must run like molasses on a winters day.
You should definitely at least upgrade your memory to 1GB

[adiktlost]

tempting extent but i just re-installed windows a few days ago and finally got all the updates not too long ago, and while they're isn't much on here and i didn't have any trouble formatting and re-installing i just got it up and going, guess i'll just wait to upgrade my cpu and ram or just get a dvd player like you said. next time i'm staying away from the codec packs, i think k-lite is what did it, even though i've uninstalled it and ran a reg cleaner, who knows. thx for the help everyone.