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    In the < $750 range?

    Will any capture device capture 720p?


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  2. Member edDV's Avatar
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    BlackMagic Intensity Pro (with issues ... use forum search)
    AJA Xena (different issues)
    Hauppauge new card editing issues.
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    I have been leaning towards the Intensity Pro.

    Will it capture in 720p?

    Also, I can't seem to find the new Hauppauge device available (even on their site).

    The AJA seems VERY similar to the Intensity Pro, but more than twice the price, what's the benefit for going with that?
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    Hauppauge new card editing issues
    edDV what do you mean by this

    KameronK I think edDV ref to new upcoming WinTV HD PVR which not even out which is a Hardware H.264 AVC encoder
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    Originally Posted by SHS
    Hauppauge new card editing issues
    edDV what do you mean by this

    KameronK I think edDV ref to new upcoming WinTV HD PVR which not even out which is a Hardware H.264 AVC encoder
    Yes h.264 PVR will be difficult to filter or edit beyond simple cuts. Assuming a quality HD source, this won't be an issue but much of HD capture will be upscaled SD 4:3 or 16:9 of variable quality. It will be difficult to seriously edit this h.264 capture material. Much more difficult than MPeg2 SD that is.
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    I have noticed that in many cases whenever the discussions evolves around h264 (even mpeg)
    that it is advised that these formats are difficult to edit. Perhaps this point should be sort of
    refrased somewhat.

    I mean. If you are going to edit the h264/mpeg source *directly* or real-time (while inside a
    timieline) then is more than likely that editing will not be as accurate or smooth sailing. And the
    reason behind that is on account of the decoding and indixing involved while in the real-time type
    setup. The index part is sometimes vague in that it can't be properly maintained in many cases.

    But, if you create a psuedo (fake) avi (via, VFAPI) or index it with the right tools (ie, dgindex or
    dgavc) you shouldn't have any problems editing these h264/mpeg videos. I myself use the VFAPI
    codec in the majority of my mpegs. As far as AVC (h264) type videos, I'm new to these and do
    not have much experience in terms of optimum handle'age at the moment, though I'm slowly
    working in that area.

    As far as capturing goes, I've been exploring another avenue. Capturing with the XviD codec,
    using I-Frame only and no compression -- well, maybe a tiny bit. I sometimes get a 5.7:1 compresion
    ratio, prob comparaitable to DV, but I have not yet completed my notes and things on this. And
    I would say that its prob comparitable to my svhs recordings in EP mode or better. Anyhow. I've
    been capturing my analog cabletv with this set and my Pinnacle Studio AV/DV card w/ vdub for
    the last 3 weeks or so. So far, I am pleased

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