Hidef recording not confined to blu ray media

[RabidDog]

"Recording a full-length HD movie and its accompanying high-resolution audio component onto a disc is no longer confined to blue laser media, due to the emergence of multilayered high-storage-capacity red laser media that is expected to give both Blu-ray Disc and HD DVD recordable media some competition in cost-sensitive applications" added Meza.

Discuss...

I think he's talking about fvd from china (for china) FCFC

[Krispy Kritter]

As is noted in the news forum, it is expected that whenever you post items such as this, that you also post the link to where you found the information. It's hard to comment or debate on information that may be taken out of context.

[LCSHG]

The post and comment by RabidDog is interesting. At this point there is a lot of information available to check, [Red vs Blue laser etc,etc]
It sounded as though RabidDog was throwing the issue out there as was the BataMax and VHS issue.
The issue would seem mostly around HD-DVD and Blu-Ray formats
Most comments and discussions on the competing formats seem to be around units other than standalone DVD recorder/players. Notice should be taken before Sony gets us all.

Take note of the compatibility issues between HD-DVD and BlueRay issues and what any format will mean to the end user and who controls the marketing
These sites should be a good place to start, as to their formats and compatibility.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HD_DVD

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blu-ray


At this point it seems the HD-DVD format is compatible with existing equipment [lasers etc]. It would seem to be of sufficient quality and capacity to satisfy most users. [In the Real World]

The Blu-Ray [PDD] format Would Not appear to be compatible with existing equipment and not better, than HD-DVD. [Again In The Real World]

Sony Is obsessed With Copy Protection. Remember they are a Media Giant. A shift to a Blu-Ray standard would most likely place them in the control they seek, They would like nothing better than to gain that control to dictate the programs we can see, record and the price.

Frankly I hope Sony Gets Blu-Ray Stuck right where BataMax is

[edDV]

HD DVD has 3x red laser compatibility. Quick summary:

DVD-5 MPeg2 ~20-30* min, VC-1/h.264 ~ 75min
DVD-9 MPeg2 ~40-60* min, VC-1/h.264 ~155 min


DV forum http://www.dvdforum.org/tech-faq.htm

* more @ 24p fps

[RabidDog]

This was news item on some other website .. will find the link
try this .. but I think they are just quoting the same article ..
http://www.cdrinfo.com/Sections/News/Details.aspx?NewsId=20250

I think this gUy was talking about hi-def in "low cost" markets, and how they were never going to pay either Blu-ray or hd-dvd royalties. So new/different formats are being explored for these markets, BUT the point being a cheap hi-def player, with cheap hi-def movies would have the habit of leaking over into the "high cost" markets, and could, potentially, undermine both H and B formats.
Even something that utilised mpeg4 type compression on a dvd9 disc could get a hi-def (or near equivalent) with existing discs and replicators. eg red laser (red as in wavelength, red as in china)

mpeg4 on a multi-layered disc (3 or 4 layers give ample space)? is this FVD/EVD

[Xesdeeni]

Taking this opportunity to suggest the Sigma-Designs based media DVD players, which can play HD from red laser DVDs in WMV and DivX formats. Some versions can also play MPEG-4 (part 2). MPEG-4 (part 10...a.k.a. h.264) is coming.

Xesdeeni

[Krispy Kritter]

At this point in the life cycle, there are still too many hardware issues/bugs that need to be worked out before cost even becomes a major factor. Even the 2nd gen HD-A2 has issues playing some discs. As the hardware matures the pricde and manufacturing costs decrease. Since the price is still high at the moment, a majority of the owners are video enthusiasts that are willing to overlook some the bugs and hardware issues. If this player was selling at a much reduced price right now, there would be many people buying that would expect an experience similar to their mature dvd players. Which would cause a much of bad publicity and negative image.

I believe the hardware has to mature more before we worry about low prices.