Files too large...

[BennyGixxer]

Hi, I may be ,issing something really obvious
But Ive recently been trying to put some of my avi/mpeg files on to disc
Most of which are about 700-800 MB but once I drag and drop them in to SVCD2DVD
it shows themas 5-6GB and obviously are too big for burning

Can anyone tell me why this is happening and how to prevent it please?

And also seperate question, when I shrink to fit does it affect the quality of production/playback?

Cheers
Ben

[Jikchung]

The size result is a product of length (in time) of your assets. Using "autofit" will enable you to fit on a regular DVD when using AVI. MPG is another matter as it will not be re-encoded, so use only as many files as will fit on a DVD, or us DVDShrink. If you are in the 5-6GB range, Shrink should not affect quality much.

I have put up to 3.5 hours (5 series episodes) of AVI on a DVD with good results, but final results are very dependant on input quality and what looks good to me may not necessarily look good to you. That being said, this is the best tool I have used for that purpose.

Be sure to use '2 Pass' mode for better quality.

[BennyGixxer]

what I supose Im really trying to ask is, Why oes a 700MB avi file become 5.6BGB once I place it in SVCD2DVD?...souldnt it show up there as 700MB and therefore shouldnt I be able to fit about 5 movies ofthat size on one DVD?

Cheers

[ministryofmind]

Well, you may be able to fit 750 mb worth of MP3s on a CD, but you can only burn an audio CD of maybe 80 MB worth of MP3s ... because it's a product of length.

Mayhaps the same thing applies here. I am curious though, just what exactly is the bar supposed to represent, how many assets you can fit on a DVD9?

[Jikchung]

Why oes a 700MB avi file become 5.6BGB

A search would have turned up the answer. As ministryofmind indicated, it is a result of file formats. That being said - you do realize that you are converting to a DVD compliant format? That requires re-encoding the AVI to Mpeg2, which is not as efficient as some newer codecs (XVID, etc.) and requires more space.
If you want a DVD with AVI content (perhaps you have a player that supports it?) just burn as data, you won't need S2D for that.

Mayhaps the same thing applies here. I am curious though, just what exactly is the bar supposed to represent, how many assets you can fit on a DVD9?

Basically, yes. The bar represents a DVD9 and slightly beyond. Before pushing "autofit", the reading on the bar is a representation of the space needed by your assets as a product of length at maximum DVD bitrate. Pressing autofit adjusts the bitrate as necessary to your project.

[ChrissyBoy]

what I supose Im really trying to ask is, Why oes a 700MB avi file become 5.6BGB once I place it in SVCD2DVD?...souldnt it show up there as 700MB and therefore shouldnt I be able to fit about 5 movies ofthat size on one DVD?

Cheers

The size of your avi assets and the bitrate they are already encoded with make no difference here - it is the DURATION of the total AVI content that is important.

You could have a 2hour 30min avi which is 50GB and another 2hour 30min avi which is 700MB and they would both produce the same size when encoded to DVD.

For a duration to size illustration see:

https://forum.videohelp.com/viewtopic.php?p=1408636#1408636

[rlyacht]

I'm also confused. I have two small mpeg1's - small in the sense that the file sizes are 130M and 195M, and also in that they are short in duration, about 15-20 minutes each.

When I went to burn a DVD continaing just these two assets, I get an error message about not having enough room. And it turns out that the ISO generated is 4.96G! I successfully burned it with DVD-shrink, but I don't recall this having happened before.

In case it's relevant, I just added the two mpeg assets and clicked auto layout. I am burning with DVD Decrypter.

[ChrissyBoy]

Can you post your log file - it doesn't sound right!

[rlyacht]

AFter a few tries, it now works ok - the ISO was normal size. I have another problem with the video that's created, but I will post that in a separate thread. I can't imagine what I was doing wrong.

[dunncha]

I hope someone is still checking this issue. I've been using DVD2SVCD for years without any problem, but recently the video files I create are too big to a normal dvd-r.

I make my film 'Autofit' and select don't burn DVD

I get the video folders (Audio_TS and Video_TS) and burn them using Nero. A roundabout route but since I upgraded Nero this is easiest way of doing it.....

But recently the video folders I get are to big for my standard DVD-R's. Nero reports them as 4518mb and the capacity of the disk is 4489mb. I have tried to engage overburn but this just fails every time.

I have tried to create an image and then use DVD Shrink but Shrink crashes part way through processing.

I not sure if it is related but DVD Shrink has become unreliable at ripping films. Everything reports as fine but the end of films are cut off/corrupt. I suspect a codec problems. Any helps, tips, pointers would be greatly appreciated.

I run WinXP64 with tons of RAM and Drive Space. As I said before I've SVCD2DVD Running fine in this configuration for about a year. The problems seems to have come since the last release ( 10/10/06)

[Schimi1983]

i´ve noticed the same.

Sometimes when i put a mpg and one or two avis in it... the programm produced "to large" videofiles

My PC:
http://www.nethands.de/pys/show.php?user=szymon

[Jikchung]

As usual - Post your log files for the problem conversions...

Without any reference information to go by there is no way to research the problem.

[dunncha]

Sorry for taking so long in posting the log file. Hope this helps.

with thanks

dunncha

svcd2dvdlog-20070311231529.txt

[Schimi1983]

i had yesterday the problem that a conversion ob 4 avi files have use "only" 3,8GB of the possible 4,x of a singel layer DVD

here is the log

maybe is that a problem with our 64bit Windows and the 32bit emulation?

svcd2dvdlog-20070312004333.txt

[Jikchung]

ChrissyBoy will have the last word on this, but...

But recently the video folders I get are to big for my standard DVD-R's. Nero reports them as 4518mb and the capacity of the disk is 4489mb.

This is barely oversized (< 1%), DVDShrink will easily fix it. If your posted log is any indication of a typical project (~8:40 minutes in duration), you should not be surprised if the target size is off by a small amount.


@Schimi1983

As I have posted before, the problem sometimes is with the source file when you get an offsize result. I have had files that no matter the encoder (CCE, TmpgEnc, FFmpeg, etc., etc.) they will just not come out on target. I consider the source of those files and call it "good enough," and consider it a side effect of doing "business" in certain domains.

[Schimi1983]

oh ok i think i understand ... thx