Bitsetting - All or Nothing?

[swkenney]

I have burned some DVD+R's that will play on two different players. On one player, though, there are many errors and viewing is not worthwhile. If I got a bitsetting burner, and set booktype to DVD-ROM, could this playback improve? Or would it only change a not-read-at-all situation to a can-read situation?

It would seem that a player would adjust the LED intensity based on a test of the medium, not on the booktype. I would think that DVD-ROM's have higher contrast than writeables, so faking this booktype would not help if booktype were the criteria for light intensity.

If a DVD+R skips in one player and not another, is burn contrast the likely reason?

Thank You

[lordsmurf]

No.

Some players simply cannot play DVD+R media.

Bitsetting will not help this situation at all.

[laspis59]

My player likes both + and - so I everytime I backup a video I do so to a DVD+R one time and then a DVD-R another and continue backing up this way.

DVD-R IS more compatible and if you decide to buy any then I would recommend a brand with the media id of TYG02.

Also if your getting many errors then IS your media good class A media or bad?

Taiyo Yuden (MID - TYG0x/YUDEN000T0x) and Mitsubishi Chemicals Corp (MID - MCC 00x/MCC 0xRG20) I would recommend as the most trouble free media!

[laspis59]

It would seem that a player would adjust the LED intensity based on a test of the medium, not on the booktype.

Also may I add that Verbatim MCC media is more reflective because of its Metal AZO,therefore the player will find the disc easier to read.Reflectivity of the DVD is important.

I'm not sure if the TY media is the same? I THINK it also has good reflectivity but I'm not 100% certain?

[gll99]

Or would it only change a not-read-at-all situation to a can-read situation?

In my experience this is more likely to be true.
When a drive can read the disc then bitsetting is not the issue. I would then look at the media itself or the speed at which it is burned. Also avoid labels at all cost they are problematic on some players and drives.

Someone had a list where he classified discs by company. For example, Verbatim were A, Memorex B and I believe Kodak and/or Fujifilm as C. That could be off a bit but in my own experience with burning +R discs and the % of coasters per pack etc... I found this to be generally true when burning at max rated speed.

In some cases with really cheap unbranded + and - media, slowing the burn speed made them perform much better. I had one 50 pack of -R rated 8x which after a few coasters and difficult to read discs, I started burning at 4x and every one turned out great.

So slowing the burn rate might help with a finicky player but also with +R, I would always use bitsetting if you can. Who knows what player you will own in the future.

btw) Don't mistake this to mean that bitsetting guarantees 100% compatability because it won't. It does increase the odds substantially.

[TBoneit]

Well as to the Fuji being rated a C, I had absolutely zero (o) problems with them using the Made in Japan discs. I always sorted through and only bought the MIJ and passed on the MIT Fuji discs of course.

Memorex I would rate as a C not a B because you never know who made them.

Lately I've been using mostly Verbatim and MIJ Sony's. I stock up when they are on sale. I start looking for a good sale when I get down to 50+ on hand as that leaves me a time margin to not have to rush and buy at off sale prices.

Cheers

[laspis59]

Don't mistake this to mean that bitsetting guarantees 100% compatability because it won't. It does increase the odds substantially.

I agree.I read that bitsetting to DVD-ROM can fool some players into playing the +R format.