wtd: easy menu-making ware for VOB-type files

[spiritgumm]

Looking for an idiot-friendly menu-making software that handles both mutilple audio streams and subtitles. I currently use TDA but it won't accept subtitles (and my older version won't do multi-audio).
DVDLab Studio does it all (and re-authors too) but it's a tad complicated for me.
Alot of the menu-making Freeware uses more elementary streams, so I'd like to avoid that. I'm mainly using VOB-type files (commercial dvd and dvd recorder dvds), and replacing menus and chapter stops.
Thanks for any suggestions,
This Old Idiot

[Baldrick]

tested ulead dvd workshop ?

[spiritgumm]

Tested Ulead it awhile ago, couldn't get it to work, but it might have been the slow computer I had then. Reading some reviews on this site, looks like I wasn't the only one who had problems with it. And price was too high. I have a fast computer now, so I suppose I should test it again.
Other payware I've tried: Nero 6 (I use mainly for music cds). That dvd menu-making function usually stalls.